Agreed. That may look good in a civic though

Let stay on topic folks!!

I had a Manual Z and now have an Auto I can tell you that I loved both. I could not tell the difference between both. If I would buy another Z I would get it Auto again.

It's the only nice point of the FR-S interior.

From what i can gather... it is on topic. Kinda. This thread is about someone's insecurity driving an auto, which went into the insecurity of people who make their auto's look like manuals? lol


This is a pointless thread when you think of it.

Yes sir! :tiphat:

MT > AT > poser

:stirthepot: :icon17:

I think he's talking about the fat chicks and jerkin' it :bowrofl:

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Which actually brought this whole thread up like 3 notches.:tup:

Trips i only go off topic to get your sexy ass in here :yum:

you're welcome :tiphat:

While I know this thread should die a peaceful death, I have to say that it got me to goofing around with my 7AT and I was quite surprised. I've had other vehicles with shift-o-matics (mostly large trucks and SUVs) and they seemed a bit gimmicky, apart from use in towing. I found the quasi-manual mode surprising useful for getting a little more control out of the gearbox. It certainly helps making sure one is in the right gear coming out of the corners. Anyway, I still lament not having a 6MT, but maybe a little less now. Moreover, I am still happy as a good fart to have a 370Z.

one of the premier Z Turner/mechanic, Rob w/ Zcar garage actually recommended going auto instead of manual when I was asking for suggestions. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go 350 again or 370 and he said "you should check out the A/T 370z it will blow your mind!"

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Sorry, I was just trying to back you up. Won't do that again....:tiphat:

???? I think the automatic driver is a smoother operator... I own both manual cars and auto cars and it is a lot easier to get some in a auto. You have a free hand to multitask or to pleasure them. :bowrofl:

However, I do not think I'd own a Vette with a auto. They just aren't that good yet. The biggest difference between old school autos and this one is you can hold a gear and it has auto-reving down shifts. All of my previous Z's have been manual. The the 350z auto was not even close to this Sequenical 7 Speed Auto with auto-reving down shifts, 370Z's S7 is really inovative and a blast to drive once you learn how it works and when to pull a lever or flap a paddle.

I would never had believed it either until I drove a S7 370Z.

Man, if it were that easy, we'd (males) not be running around making jackasses of ourselves for the better part of our waking hours. We'd not be behaving like the the dung-slinging chimps we hail from, and you'd have a Nobel Peace (or Piece) prize.

What women want? What you speak of is highly illusive, perhaps a fable, and still unknown. Finding the G Spot with my Z spot? I'll give it a try (but with my 7AT).

My friends are amazed at the responses the 7a gives when changing gears. Nissan built something special with the 7a. I think they are the first to really give the best of both worlds without going dct.

Read about autos in this poser car:

Lamborghini to Drop Manual Transmissions - Motor Trend

A single clutch (or dual clutch) "auto" is nothing like your torque converter 7AT....don't kid yourself Sparky...

Odd turn.

[QUOTE=b15;2344963]A single clutch (or dual clutch) "auto" is nothing like your torque converter 7AT....don't kid yourself Sparky...[/QUOTE

Absolutely, I was just surprised at the percentages!

Yeah, I counldn't imagine a PDK or DCT in our cars and still being able keep the price down. It would be called a GT-R then I think.

Found some more information on the topic that others might like to see.
What I have been trying to say is: For a S7 the Nissan 370Z's seven speed is pretty crackin':

The 370Z’s 7-speed automatic with Downshift Rev Matching (DRM) and Adaptive Shift Control (ASC) is designed to offer quick, manual-like shifting when operated in manual mode with a target time of 0.5 seconds between shifts. Drivers can use the standard paddle shifters or the shift lever. With optimized torque converter lock-up logic, the 7-speed automatic feels very direct, like a manual transmission. The 7-speed’s wide gear ratios offer improved fuel efficiency (versus a 5-speed automatic), while the Adaptive Shift Control is designed to adjust to the driver’s driving style.

Fuel economy is rated at 19 mpg City/26 mpg Highway for the 7-speed automatic and 18 mpg City/ 26 mpg Highway for the 6-speed manual transmission

2011 Nissan 370Z

3.7 L, 6 cyl, Automatic (S7)
MSRP: $31,450 - $40,830

EPA Fuel Economy
Miles per Gallon PREMIUM GASOLINE
22
Combined
19
City
26
Highway
4.5 gallons/100 mi PREMIUM GASOLINE


3.7 L, 6 cyl, Manual 6-spd
MSRP: $31,450 - $40,830

21
Combined
18
City
26
Highway
4.8 gallons/100 mi

In manual mode, the optional 7-speed automatic shifts quickly. Drivers can use the paddles or lever. The shifts feel direct, like a manual transmission, thanks to what Nissan calls torque converter lock-up logic.

Don't get me wrong, I still think I can shift faster in a manual transmission car however, the numbers would tell me different in a 370Z and my experience is that the Z has one of the best S7 I've driven especially for the price.

It not always how fast you can shift. Sometimes it's if you can shift in a corner or not.

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Stillen ground wires. I'll take the pepsi challenge on whose shifting faster? lol :hello:

I still don't get the whole ground wire upgrade and how it can possibly affect shift speeds. Also, not sure why anyone would pay a company hundreds of dollars when you can get large gauge power wire and higher quality connectors at your hardware store for much less. Just saying.

Hundreds of dollars? Where do you shop at??? As far as I know Stillen sells them at $92.50:ugh2:

I bought mine from someone who never installed theirs. I paid $75. I noticed shifting and mild responsiveness improvements in conjunction with other mods.

Just sayin.

92.50 / 100.00, basically the same thing. $8.00 (yes, we rounded up again) makes no difference, and they probably charge that for shipping... :icon17:

Still a difference between a hundred and hundreds bruh Not the same thing.


But in spite of... The ground wire comment was really a joke that is now going wrong, as usual.

Does anyone know if the ASC function reset when you turn the car off? My friend's MB CLK-500 had a similar feature - if you drove it casual it would keep the shift points at lower RPMs and the throttle response was slower, however, if you mash the pedal every chance it would be more responsive and stay in the power band a lot more without having it floored. The stupid thing was it reset every time you turned the damn car off :thumbsdown:

From what i notice, it's within minutes. You can be driving calm for say an hour, but if you spend 10 minutes trying to drive aggressive, the car begins to change the way it reads your inputs and gets more aggressive.

Shutting the car on and off had no effect for me. It seems to remember accordingly.

My problem was the Benz would take 5-10 min to learn (depending on the route and traffic), and then we would be at our destination :ugh2:

That's good. This was over 5 years ago in the Benz, so I don't know how new or advanced the technology was at that time. It definitely didn't remember...

Has any done this (stillen grounding kit)
Is there any truth to this? I just can rap my head around it, I mean really how can a ground wire do all of that?

The downside to it is driving calm weens it down within 10 min as well, so if you're not shifting at high rpms often and hittin the gas. It loses aggressiveness. So if excellent responses mean anything to you at all times. You will burn lots of gas in the a7 trying to keep the asc alive with your drive style. lol.:ugh2:

Thats a small or large downside depending on who you are. I drive aggressive more than not so, my car 70% of the time understands me.

Before going to the track. Drive around like a nut for 15-30 min. Shut off the car for like 30 cuz it might be at 250 degrees depending if you are cooled or not. Then turn it back on and race with confidence.

You just feel the shifts change faster, the transmission feels more responsive... What else do you think it does? Only works for autos though. The transmission is more electronically involved than the manual. thats why.

:ugh2: I don't like that at all. I never considered the 7AT in the first place, but knowing that would have taken it out of the running right away.

I can see that for some, because with the manual, you drive how you want with no computer prep. But at least with the Z you don't have to start all over everytime you start the car like the benz. And my gut tells me that the Z ASC is probably better than what you've experienced. Mercedes is not the best with performance nannies.

Also getting a performance tune will lean your car toward the aggressive side all the time, so ASC is less intrusive with a custom tune.

Exactly. Not resetting every time is definitely better, and I'm sure you're right that the Z ASC is much more sophisticated than my previous experiences.

I got a performance tune on my 6MT and love it :driving: I wonder if the new EcuTek software will be able to adjust the ASC on a 7AT.

I get that I have a 7AT, but someone said it adds HP?

Can't believe this thread is 19 page long. I bet OP is not even following it anymore :icon17: But in case he is, enjoy your AT as it is really a good one, and there is no way I can shift faster with my manual than you can with your paddles.

However if you get a chance to own a stick, try it. That's the only way to really know if you will really like it or not. Doing just one or two learning drives with a stick, just won't do it.

I'm lucky to own both as my GTI is an auto with paddles and it's quick shifting as well. But the only time the GTI gets driven is when I need extra room in the car, other than that I prefer driving the Z because of the manual trans.

One last note, the GTI paddles move with the steering wheel. Personally I prefer the paddles stationary, like in the Z. Enjoy your 7AT guys, it's a good one :tup:

Oh... Ugh no, whoever said that is BS'ing. It will increase responsiveness that will make the car "mildly" faster, hp non-involved though.

That, I have no clue of where or how the ASC will play with the programs or not, but the more aggressive gear ratio changes will obviously put a damper on some of ASC's overall function..

Wish i got the Auto, guarantee I would love it and you woundnt see any complaints on sloppy shifter, crap clutch, coarse rough engine. Lack of torque on throttle response

No wonder they don't offer it for the lease deal it even gets better mpg..

I drove a 7at and 6 speed back to back. While I really like how quick the 7at shifts, I still prefer a clutch pedal.