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hey32g 07-20-2009 07:33 PM

My One Worry About White
 
I am almost sure I'm going to get white, but I'm concerned about matching the paint if it ever has to be repaired or even just touched up, due to the fact that it's not a flat white. Any of you white drivers experienced that yet?

Robert_Nash 07-20-2009 07:36 PM

The ability of any shop to match paint is completely dependent on the expertise of the shop - the risk exists no matter what color you get.

TonyBPD 07-20-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 119875)
The ability of any shop to match paint is completely dependent on the expertise of the shop - the risk exists no matter what color you get.

What he said.

nogoodname 07-20-2009 08:02 PM

skills is whats needed

YamahaR6 07-20-2009 08:08 PM

White is also "rail dust magnet"....

But of course claying does clean it....

nogoodname 07-20-2009 08:28 PM

nothing worse than maintaining black colour cars

therefore white is one of the easiest to me

SpawnAeroJohn 07-20-2009 08:42 PM

As a painter. Every color is hard to match if it needs to be 100% down to the point perfect. But no matter the color it can be blended by a professional painter with years of experiance under his belt. Even 3 stage colors.

tranceformer 07-20-2009 08:43 PM

You ever had to wax a white car by hand? Not fun.

Paint matching pearl white paint can be tricky, just make sure to bring it to a reputable shop. My last car was a pikes peak white 350z, basically the same as the color on my 370z now. I had a dent in the fender and the paint match came out great. You couldn't even tell it had work done.

jginnane 07-21-2009 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hey32g (Post 119869)
I am almost sure I'm going to get white, but I'm concerned about matching the paint if it ever has to be repaired or even just touched up, due to the fact that it's not a flat white. Any of you white drivers experienced that yet?

Pearl white's color code is "QAB". My Z has about 2800 miles on it, and three tiny specks (breaks in the clear coat) on the aluminum hood where stones hit it.

None of the 4 nearest Nissan dealers stock the $8 paint stick yet. I'll wait until the end of summer, and if they're not stocking by then, will order (takes 2-3 days). Paint sticks generally can only be used a couple times before they dry up -- figure the shelf life, once opened, is just a few months.

But if you haven't noticed, most of the outside of the Z is plastic or aluminum. You aren't worried about corrosion on these panels. (And you shouldn't be parking where someone's going to ding the steel parts.)

For touchup work, I don't use the applicator brushes that come with repair kits. Use a fresh toothpick, and dab a tiny drop of paint into the "wound". Expect the repair to be invisible from more than 2-3 feet away, and that's probably good enough. (Do a Zaino treatment after the paint repair, and people won't be looking for specks.)

For much larger repairs, any pro shop recommended by your local Nissan dealer is going to meet Nissan's quality standards. You may be lucky and never have to repair or replace one of your big plastic bumper covers in the life of your Z, but I wouldn't bet on it.

kannibul 07-21-2009 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jginnane (Post 120251)
Pearl white's color code is "QAB". My Z has about 2800 miles on it, and three tiny specks (breaks in the clear coat) on the aluminum hood where stones hit it.

None of the 4 nearest Nissan dealers stock the $8 paint stick yet. I'll wait until the end of summer, and if they're not stocking by then, will order (takes 2-3 days). Paint sticks generally can only be used a couple times before they dry up -- figure the shelf life, once opened, is just a few months.

But if you haven't noticed, most of the outside of the Z is plastic or aluminum. You aren't worried about corrosion on these panels. (And you shouldn't be parking where someone's going to ding the steel parts.)

For touchup work, I don't use the applicator brushes that come with repair kits. Use a fresh toothpick, and dab a tiny drop of paint into the "wound". Expect the repair to be invisible from more than 2-3 feet away, and that's probably good enough. (Do a Zaino treatment after the paint repair, and people won't be looking for specks.)

For much larger repairs, any pro shop recommended by your local Nissan dealer is going to meet Nissan's quality standards. You may be lucky and never have to repair or replace one of your big plastic bumper covers in the life of your Z, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I figure the bumpers would be the easiest, since they'd do the whole panel, and you could just take the old bumper and the new bumper to them so they can spray the new one, and compare it to the old one.

bigaudiofanat 07-21-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tranceformer (Post 119942)
You ever had to wax a white car by hand? Not fun.

Paint matching pearl white paint can be tricky, just make sure to bring it to a reputable shop. My last car was a pikes peak white 350z, basically the same as the color on my 370z now. I had a dent in the fender and the paint match came out great. You couldn't even tell it had work done.

X2 I detail my neighbors Lexus rx300 pearl white not fun at all, also they have had a few scratches and all and even the dealer sad they can not match it exactly and you cna see were it has been touched up, me I like a black car or blue.

Alexus 07-21-2009 09:57 AM

Although I have not seen a white 370Z in person, I can account for this fact seeing as my mother owns a new Altima and it just so happens to be white. I don't know if the same is true for all of Nissan's whites, but it appears to me as if the body color does not exactly match the bumpers and the side moldings in certain lighting conditions. It would seem to me as if they are half a shade off.

That being said, an art professor in college once told me that white is one of the hardest colors to consistently match. He went on to say that no two whites are alike, so a body shop might have a hard time matching the color perfectly unless they get Nissan's exact specifications.

Once you get the car, please update me on if you notice a difference between the painted sheet metal and the painted plastics… I'd be curious to know if this phenomenon is true on the 370Z, as it seems to be the case on most of Nissan's other whites.

Modshack 07-21-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 120368)
update me on if you notice a difference between the painted sheet metal and the painted plastics… I'd be curious to know if this phenomenon is true on the 370Z, as it seems to be the case on most of Nissan's other whites.

Many cars are like this due to Primer and surface differences, added flex agents etc and make a perfect match harder. Often at the assembly point these parts are painted at a separate facility and not at the same time as the body shell..

My car just had the Hood and front replaced and painted. The fenders blended...It is perfect, but my shop is very good!

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Caravanshaka 07-21-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus (Post 120368)
Although I have not seen a white 370Z in person, I can account for this fact seeing as my mother owns a new Altima and it just so happens to be white. I don't know if the same is true for all of Nissan's whites, but it appears to me as if the body color does not exactly match the bumpers and the side moldings in certain lighting conditions. It would seem to me as if they are half a shade off.

That being said, an art professor in college once told me that white is one of the hardest colors to consistently match. He went on to say that no two whites are alike, so a body shop might have a hard time matching the color perfectly unless they get Nissan's exact specifications.

Once you get the car, please update me on if you notice a difference between the painted sheet metal and the painted plastics… I'd be curious to know if this phenomenon is true on the 370Z, as it seems to be the case on most of Nissan's other whites.


this is most noticeable on the side skirts, for pretty much every color on the Z, not just white.

arcticreaver 07-21-2009 12:03 PM

doesn't the white also turn a bit yellow over time? i think that was my biggest concern for white color cars.

Caravanshaka 07-21-2009 12:08 PM

any paint will fade if not properly taken care of.

arcticreaver 07-21-2009 12:50 PM

right, but doesn't white turn yellow over time or can you prevent that?

Caravanshaka 07-21-2009 12:59 PM

the yellowish tint is just white fading.

tranceformer 07-21-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by arcticreaver (Post 120462)
doesn't the white also turn a bit yellow over time? i think that was my biggest concern for white color cars.

I've seen what clearbra looks like on a white car. The clearbra yellows and looks awful.

areyouin729 07-21-2009 06:03 PM

even the best body shop in my area couldnt match my 300ZX's pearl white perfectly

Caravanshaka 07-21-2009 09:38 PM

depends on the brand of the clear bra. clear bra is easily removed and replaced though, at least easier than painting and trying to match it.

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Originally Posted by tranceformer (Post 120817)
I've seen what clearbra looks like on a white car. The clearbra yellows and looks awful.


ZKindaGuy 07-21-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by arcticreaver (Post 120506)
right, but doesn't white turn yellow over time or can you prevent that?

To be honest with you the paint industry has for the most part resolved the yellowing problem in the past 10 years. What causes dulling or discoloration is actually the atmospheric contaminents and the use of non-distilled water or recycled water which is found at most car washes including no-touch ones.

Keeping the skin of a car looking good and proper is 100% in the hands of the owner of the car and how lazy he or she is going to be. If you are one of the folks who think driving it through a car wash once a week is enough then you are in for a rude awakening as your clear coat and paint will begin to dull enough to take away the "new" look it had originally.

If you clay-bar the car at least 2 to 3 times a year the contaminents are not going to be able to accumulate to affect the paint color. Following up with a regular course of timely washing, polishing and waxing will keep the white as new as the day it came out of the paint booth.

It's as new looking as what you put into it....its as simple as that.

batman_4 07-21-2009 09:58 PM

If you want white go for it. My 370 has been hit twice now and it still looks like new. You can rest assured if you go with white thanks to Jacks Paint Place in Converse here in the San Antonio area. should get my car back thursday but saw it yesterday and it was flawless.

AK370Z 07-21-2009 10:36 PM

Off topic
 
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Originally Posted by areyouin729 (Post 120906)
even the best body shop in my area couldnt match my 300ZX's pearl white perfectly

Hey :hello: , how are ya? I am surprised you're still with us. You're one of the few old school member. Good to see you :tup:

drdre8424 07-21-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by batman_4 (Post 121149)
If you want white go for it. My 370 has been hit twice now and it still looks like new. You can rest assured if you go with white thanks to Jacks Paint Place in Converse here in the San Antonio area. should get my car back thursday but saw it yesterday and it was flawless.

Damn man, were not even out of '09 yet and your Z's been hit twice?

ZKindaGuy 07-21-2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by batman_4 (Post 121149)
If you want white go for it. My 370 has been hit twice now and it still looks like new.


You definitely can use the vanity plate: UCNT Z ME :bowrofl:

batman_4 07-22-2009 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by drdre8424 (Post 121173)
Damn man, were not even out of '09 yet and your Z's been hit twice?

yup, 1st time was an old lady and 2nd time i was parked outside a friends house and came out to see my Z hit pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 121180)
You definitely can use the vanity plate: UCNT Z ME :bowrofl:

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2: that is hilarious lol, no joke i am going to look into that :bowrofl:

areyouin729 07-23-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 121169)
Hey :hello: , how are ya? I am surprised you're still with us. You're one of the few old school member. Good to see you :tup:

haha thanks, I'm soon to be an old school member with a 370Z :driving:

it could be anywhere btwn this week and December but I'm getting ready


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