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chknhawk 03-18-2013 01:20 PM

Track Vs. Street
 
This is the only differences? A little hard to believe. If that is the case I am not doing too bad. :tup:

http://www.the370z.com/members/chknh...comparison.jpg

theDreamer 03-18-2013 01:38 PM

I would imagine there might be some minor other upgrades, from the picture alone you see different wheels & modified body panels.

dP3NGU1N 03-18-2013 01:46 PM

Looks like TCIIIs? I imagine a real rear diff makes all the difference.

Osiris 03-18-2013 02:37 PM

rollcage, diff, brake pads, and seats don't justify the $100k difference in price.

ZMan8 03-18-2013 02:41 PM

It's not 100k difference. Gt academy does not use the nismo rc car. They have modified versions of the coupe sport models.

Osiris 03-18-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 2219551)
It's not 100k difference. Gt academy does not use the nismo rc car. They have modified versions of the coupe sport models.

ah, my bad...yea i was referring to the nismo rc car which is actually $164,000 :shakes head: And it isn't much different as far as changes as the GT Academy's car.

DarkJak 03-18-2013 03:45 PM

Nismo RC has a lot of difference though.
Off the top of my head:
"stripped" interior (never done I guess)
Racing bucket seat
race control panel area instead of the radio
Race exhuaust
Different wheels
Brake cooling ducts
Those two coolers with the radiators in the back. I'm guessing oil and diff? or perhaps one is for trans.
Racing brakes
Cage
And i'm just gonna guess there's different suspension.
So there is quite a lot of difference.
130k more is pretty ridiculous though.

GT academy's could probably be replicated with 5k of mods and labor.

Osiris 03-18-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2219671)
Nismo RC has a lot of difference though.
Off the top of my head:
"stripped" interior (never done I guess)
Racing bucket seat
race control panel area instead of the radio
Race exhuaust
Different wheels
Brake cooling ducts
Those two coolers with the radiators in the back. I'm guessing oil and diff? or perhaps one is for trans.
Racing brakes
Cage
And i'm just gonna guess there's different suspension.
So there is quite a lot of difference.
130k more is pretty ridiculous though.

GT academy's could probably be replicated with 5k of mods and labor.

yea, you could probably get everything you listed for $15k or less.

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 03:59 PM

You guys are forgetting the point of the NISMO RC, though.

It's designed to go straight from the factory to FIA GT4 or World Challenge GTS competition. With some small tweaks it can run in the Continental Tire GS class.

Good luck building your showroom Z into a competitive (and legal) FIA/SCCA/GrandAm competitor for $15k. :)

BGTV8 03-18-2013 04:04 PM

The NISMO Fairlady Z RC has the following:

1. Full race brakes including Bosch motorpsort ABS figure $6K and $10k each
2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K
3. Full FIA spec cage - to fit it, the roof panel is unpicked and removed
4. Once cage is fitted, body is seam welded, that would be 100+ hours of labour, figure $10K in labour alone, more if you are paying race fabrication hourly rates
5. Air-jacks supplied and plumbed - $10K
6. Diff and gearbox coolers supplied, installed and plumbed - $10K
7. Custom wiring harness - $5K
8. TE37 wheels and Yoki slicks - $6K - additional wheel sets @ $4K
9. Custom interior - seat, harness, switch gear, dash changes, FIA electrically controlled fire-bottle - $10K
10. Titanium exhaust and headers - $3K
11. Engine - $12K
12. Gearbox, carbon fibre tailshaft, diff, half-shafts etc - $10K
13. Suspension bits, hubs plus Ohlins TT44 shocks - $ 15K

The total is north of $120K easily .............. and there are lots of things I've omitted

I have built a couple of race cars, and it is surprising how expensive it is ... and the most expensive way is to start with a new car off the showroom floor as you pay to remove stuff (HVAC - interior strip, pull redundant wiring - there is 40Kg of wiring to get rid of for instance).

The most cost effective way is to start with a shell, but that means putchasing all the "bits" you need (suspension, steering, driveline, etc), and then cosider CF guards (fender), doors, hatch - there is another 6-7K alone.

The NSIMO Fairlady Z RC "retails" at 12.5Mill Yen and IMHO that is a realtively cheap race car eligible for FIA GT4 championship. Note that the negine in this car is quoted at "more than 355ps" and according to my research the GT4 MISMO VQ37 engine makes around 440hp at 9000rpm with a 30-hour time to rebuild. Makes it a pretty good option in my book.

You need to comapre apples and apples ...

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 04:07 PM

Good stuff, BG. Thanks for going into detail. :tup:

Osiris 03-18-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 2219698)
2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K

good info, i've always wondered why it cost so much. I find it funny though that they charge $15k for NOT putting those things on for #2

ZMan8 03-18-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 2219698)
The NISMO Fairlady Z RC has the following:

1. Full race brakes including Bosch motorpsort ABS figure $6K and $10k each
2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K
3. Full FIA spec cage - to fit it, the roof panel is unpicked and removed
4. Once cage is fitted, body is seam welded, that would be 100+ hours of labour, figure $10K in labour alone, more if you are paying race fabrication hourly rates
5. Air-jacks supplied and plumbed - $10K
6. Diff and gearbox coolers supplied, installed and plumbed - $10K
7. Custom wiring harness - $5K
8. TE37 wheels and Yoki slicks - $6K - additional wheel sets @ $4K
9. Custom interior - seat, harness, switch gear, dash changes, FIA electrically controlled fire-bottle - $10K
10. Titanium exhaust and headers - $3K
11. Engine - $12K
12. Gearbox, carbon fibre tailshaft, diff, half-shafts etc - $10K
13. Suspension bits, hubs plus Ohlins TT44 shocks - $ 15K

The total is north of $120K easily .............. and there are lots of things I've omitted

I have built a couple of race cars, and it is surprising how expensive it is ... and the most expensive way is to start with a new car off the showroom floor as you pay to remove stuff (HVAC - interior strip, pull redundant wiring - there is 40Kg of wiring to get rid of for instance).

The most cost effective way is to start with a shell, but that means putchasing all the "bits" you need (suspension, steering, driveline, etc), and then cosider CF guards (fender), doors, hatch - there is another 6-7K alone.

The NSIMO Fairlady Z RC "retails" at 12.5Mill Yen and IMHO that is a realtively cheap race car eligible for FIA GT4 championship. Note that the negine in this car is quoted at "more than 355ps" and according to my research the GT4 MISMO VQ37 engine makes around 440hp at 9000rpm with a 30-hour time to rebuild. Makes it a pretty good option in my book.

You need to comapre apples and apples ...

:tiphat: great info

Mike 03-18-2013 07:43 PM

I looked into the Ford Focus RS? I think that was the designation, anyhoo, its the same concept as the Nismo RC, a pure race car, thining it would be around 40 and make a great track day car before I converted my 370 over. It is 100k.

cossie1600 03-18-2013 10:08 PM

Just spend $200K on a GT3 Cup and call it a day, plenty of racing series for it


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