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mick 03-12-2013 02:13 PM

Jay Leno says it's more fun to drive a less powerful car fast.
Considering how many high end cars he has, Jay probably knows what he's talking about
So, IMO you should do it.

SS_Firehawk 03-12-2013 02:47 PM

I say get a FI'd Z from a forum member selling it. If it's really a filler car, at least you can look at the glass 3/4 full instead of half empty.

kenchan 03-12-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick (Post 2209307)
Jay Leno says it's more fun to drive a less powerful car fast.

you dont need to be jay leno to know that...

mick 03-12-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2209551)
you dont need to be jay leno to know that...

It's probably also safer to drive a less powerful car fast, considering all the supercar crashes that we have seen on videos :)

TheGreatOne 03-12-2013 04:09 PM

Well the GTR - Z move has been done before. So seems to be some value in doing it.

Easier to drive close to the Z's limits so can be more enjoyable and for me it would be about the tranny, so I would switch to a 6mt Z

However if you would be creeping back into an auto Z, I'd keep the GTR and go nuts.

kenchan 03-12-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick (Post 2209592)
It's probably also safer to drive a less powerful car fast, considering all the supercar crashes that we have seen on videos :)

indeed. :iagree:

but op already has good handle of GTR speed in congested socal traffic. :rofl2:

cossie1600 03-12-2013 06:48 PM

The whole point of driver enjoyment is the ultimate excuse for having a slower car

nmjaxx9 03-12-2013 08:06 PM

Yup GTR= player status. Z= gentlemen lounge status.:bowrofl: Enuff said. :tup:

LMBmikeZ 03-12-2013 08:20 PM

I am on the MT side of things, I would only down grade to a Z if it was because I wanted a MT. Otherwise I would stay in the GTR :tup:

LMBmikeZ 03-12-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingbaby (Post 2208380)
don't get a Z

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2208743)
skip the Z, get a mustang 5.0!

:gtfo2: :tiphat:

Leuz 03-12-2013 08:24 PM

Let me get this straight... you want to go from GT-R (auto) to a 7AT Z? :facepalm:
Jokes apart - Z IS MANUAL - (ok guys driving AT, shoot me now :p )

LMBmikeZ 03-12-2013 08:48 PM

:iagree: to get the "real driver experience" it needs to be MT it's a sports car :tup:

:driving:





notice how even the emoticon is driving MT :rofl2:

Baer383 03-12-2013 08:57 PM

I'll probably get bashed for this but if I had a GTR I'd sell it.

So yes I would never buy one.:ugh2:

djpathfinder 03-12-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2210122)
I'll probably get bashed for this but if I had a GTR I'd sell it.

So yes I would never buy one.:ugh2:

Neither would I. :stirthepot:

victort 03-12-2013 11:41 PM

yes, not fond of how the GTR looks

mick 03-12-2013 11:47 PM

If I had a GT-R and wanted to change car, I probably would consider the Corvette C7 first.
Primarily for two reasons, 1/ It's more powerful than the 370z and 2/ it just came out.

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 12:16 AM

Wow, a simple question generated 4 pages of responses. I'm impressed.

Just want to say 'Thank You' to all of you who contributed.


...so far, we have people recommending:

1. Don't get the Z, stay with GT-R
2. Don't get the Z, get a corvette instead.
3. Don't get the Z, get a moostang instead.
4. Get the Z, but in 6MT since it's a sports car.
5. Get the Z in 7AT but put a SC on it.
6. Get the Z in 7AT but put a TT on it.

Despite all these variances, one thing is for sure.

For sure, in stock form, Z is not going to make me happy. So FI is the only way to go if I want to pursuit this. But would an aftermarket FI kit take away the reliability of an otherwise bulletproof car/engine?? Will increased torque gain from the FI kit make traction unmanageable??

These are the type of questions I would need to investigate further.

But for now, Thank You, to everyone for his/her enthusiastic replies. :tiphat:

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2208673)
Op needs to test drive an auto Z, see if he likes the tranny first, very different than the GTR one.

Hey OP, if finance isn't a big deal, you want new and different experience, want auto box, what made you pick a 370z over a used 911 or M3?

No M3 or 911Turbo.....been there and done those already.

BTW, GT-R takes the cake over any 911Turbo in my book or any other Porsche.........well, maybe not a Carrera GT.

Besides, 370Z looks 100X better than the current offerings from either M or Stuttgart. Only if 370Z have the powertrain and running gears of the GT-R then we would all have the cake and eat it, too.

2012_MB_Z 03-13-2013 12:34 AM

I have both. 2012 370Z AT Touring/Sport/Nav - 2013 GTR

If you used your GTR as a daily driver, you know the transmission can be clunky (understatement I know) at slow speeds. The AT Z is much smoother as slower speeds. Definitely wont be impressed with the the Zs take off power, but on open freeways, it still moves and can dart through traffic. It feels much smaller on the roads, the GTR feels long. The visibility on the Z is terrible. This is my biggest gripe, I had to get used to this. The driver side mirror and front roof pillar pretty much block all view on left hand turns. I need to peek up and over the side view mirror to make sure I'm not going to smack the center divider. If you used your GTRs trunk, forget about it on the Z. I can put my backpack in there and lay down down a bag or two groceries. GTR I get about 15-16mpg, Z I get 18mpg. Z maintenance is cheaper than the GTR.

And for some reason, Nissan decided to make the toggle switch on the steering wheel on the Z control the song selection (during BT audio, fwd and back), and small buttons for volume. On the GTR is the other way. The toggle switch is the volume and the buttons are for fwd and back on songs.

Overall, the GTR is awesome, the Z is great, if I had to chose, I would pick the GTR. However, I drive the Z more than I do the GTR. Go figure.

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 12:53 AM

Thanks for the great review/comparo.

Stuff like this really helps!

DEpointfive0 03-13-2013 12:57 AM

^^^ Well said, OP, you're killing me!!!

Give me a call or shoot me a text, at least get a feel for the interior and such, and how the auto shifts.



Honestly, (and I don't mean to say this in a prickish way [hell, I live in PV]) But you have the money for a TT kit, I'd wait for the Fast Intentions TT kit with the valve body upgrades and the trans cooler.
Then the last piece is the flex plate which GTM will make or heat treat for you...


Then sir, I'll :tiphat:
I believe we have a member from Switzerland, and FOR SURE a member in Australia who have 7AT forced induction cars

kenchan 03-13-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK_GTR (Post 2210482)
Wow, a simple question generated 4 pages of responses. I'm impressed.

Just want to say 'Thank You' to all of you who contributed.


...so far, we have people recommending:

1. Don't get the Z, stay with GT-R (IF YOUR GOING AT)
2. Don't get the Z, get a corvette instead.
3. Don't get the Z, get a moostang instead.
4. Get the Z, but in 6MT since it's a sports car.
5. Get the Z in 7AT but put a SC on it.
6. Get the Z in 7AT but put a TT on it.

Despite all these variances, one thing is for sure.

But for now, Thank You, to everyone for his/her enthusiastic replies. :tiphat:

if you're getting a AT Z, dont even bother. just keep your GTR...even though i think buy-out from a lease is a big waste of money. hell, leasing a hobby car is a big waste of money imho. i dont think there's any benefit of owning a AT Z coming from a GTR.

like a $50K hyundai equis owner, you will be explaining your reasons to everyone you speak to why you thought your bad move was justified.

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2211033)
if you're getting a AT Z, dont even bother. just keep your GTR...even though i think buy-out from a lease is a big waste of money. hell, leasing a hobby car is a big waste of money imho. i dont think there's any benefit of owning a AT Z coming from a GTR.

like a $50K hyundai equis owner, you will be explaining your reasons to everyone you speak to why you thought your bad move was justified.

Thanks for the advise.

I, too, think buying out at lease end is not a very smart move.

Leasing a toy car makes perfect sense if you can take advantage of writing it off (either whole or partially) for your business. Plus here in CA you don't pay the full tax on the car but just the leased portion instead.

...and besides, GT-R is not my toy car. It's been my DD for the past three years and an absolute workhorse at that. I took it everywhere....taking kids to/from school daily, going to the grocery stores, loading it up at Costco, picking up flowers by the flats at Home Depot...just to name a few. It really is a supercar for AnyOne, AnyTime and AnyWhere. It also is a supercar that is workplace friiendly. Customers see a Nissan and say 'Oh, it's cool'. Can you imagine the grief you gonna get if a red Ferrari is parked right outside of your business!!?.... and so that toy car stays at home at ALL TIMES.

DEpointfive0 03-13-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK_GTR (Post 2211464)
...and besides, GT-R is not my toy car. It's been my DD for the past three years and an absolute workhorse at that. I took it everywhere....taking kids to/from school daily, going to the grocery stores, loading it up at Costco, picking up flowers by the flats at Home Depot...just to name a few. It really is a supercar for AnyOne, AnyTime and AnyWhere. It also is a supercar that is workplace friiendly. Customers see a Nissan and say 'Oh, it's cool'. Can you imagine the grief you gonna get if a red Ferrari is parked right outside of your business!!?.... and so that toy car stays at home at ALL TIMES.

That makes me happy, I do the EXACT same in the 370, minus the kids

kenchan 03-13-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK_GTR (Post 2211464)
Thanks for the advise.

I, too, think buying out at lease end is not a very smart move.

Leasing a toy car makes perfect sense if you can take advantage of writing it off (either whole or partially) for your business. Plus here in CA you don't pay the full tax on the car but just the leased portion instead.

...and besides, GT-R is not my toy car. It's been my DD for the past three years and an absolute workhorse at that. I took it everywhere....taking kids to/from school daily, going to the grocery stores, loading it up at Costco, picking up flowers by the flats at Home Depot...just to name a few. It really is a supercar for AnyOne, AnyTime and AnyWhere. It also is a supercar that is workplace friiendly. Customers see a Nissan and say 'Oh, it's cool'. Can you imagine the grief you gonna get if a red Ferrari is parked right outside of your business!!?.... and so that toy car stays at home at ALL TIMES.

i can almost guarantee the 370Z is not for you especially if you're thinking about doing those things you noted above with a 370Z...especially with kids. even a 4 seater coupe is a pita for those tasks.

it will be too impractical. if you really are wat you depict, i would just get a 2013 GTR and replace the one you have. GL!

LMBmikeZ 03-13-2013 03:30 PM

On topic: If you have kids I do all that with your car, then I 100% agree with Mr. Kenchan the Z will be a very impractical for you with 2 seater among other things.......



Off topic: What is the toy car? :pics:

JungleZ 03-13-2013 03:49 PM

Dam don't make me feel worse guys for leasing the z, I didn't want to be stuck with a car I might get tired of or want to maybe upgrade

kenchan 03-13-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2211664)
Dam don't make me feel worse guys for leasing the z, I didn't want to be stuck with a car I might get tired of or want to maybe upgrade

:icon17:

you're a half dipper. :icon17: ;)

Z370Z011 03-13-2013 04:04 PM

If money is not an issue, and you want a Z. Then id say go for it! I love the GTR but you cant beat the style of the Z (well, at least in my opinion) the way the trunk swoops down, and the wide rear end!.. Besides, a TT Z would definitely be a unique car :) point is, if it makes you happy then just do it!!!! :D

Just prepare for horrible visibility lol

XiP 03-13-2013 04:07 PM

If money isn't an issue I say get the Z and keep the GT-R as your dd

KERMIT 03-13-2013 04:22 PM

Corvette C7

/thread

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2211720)
If money is not an issue, and you want a Z. Then id say go for it! I love the GTR but you cant beat the style of the Z (well, at least in my opinion) the way the trunk swoops down, and the wide rear end!.. Besides, a TT Z would definitely be a unique car :) point is, if it makes you happy then just do it!!!! :D



Just prepare for horrible visibility lol

I agree x100 that Z looks 100 times better than the GT-R. :tup:

One important thing, I totally forgot to ask you guys...

Would a full set of golf club (with cart bag) fit in the trunk of a Z?

Car I got before the GT-R can barely fit my golf club but only with the driver out of the bag. So after a year or so I had to let the car go....just darn tired of pulling the driver out and putting it back in all the time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by XiP (Post 2211730)
If money isn't an issue I say get the Z and keep the GT-R as your dd

Good suggestion I'd take.

But the issue at hand is garage spaces. Hey, perhaps I can talk my wife into moving to a larger house with more garage spaces. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2211626)
On topic: If you have kids I do all that with your car, then I 100% agree with Mr. Kenchan the Z will be a very impractical for you with 2 seater among other things.......



Off topic: What is the toy car? :pics:

A red one I couldn't take to work. ;)

kenchan 03-13-2013 04:29 PM

yah, just move to a larger house, keep your GTR and buy a Z. you can afford it.

LMBmikeZ 03-13-2013 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK_GTR (Post 2211762)
I agree x100 that Z looks 100 times better than the GT-R. :tup:

One important thing, I totally forgot to ask you guys...

Would a full set of golf club (with cart bag) fit in the trunk of a Z?


A red one I couldn't take to work. ;)

Z does look better IMO to but GTR :tup:

Yes a set of clubs will fit in the back but only one and the cart should fit as long as it folds up nicely

I like red cars, especially ones that are "meant" to be red! :yum: :tup:

SS_Firehawk 03-13-2013 04:40 PM

I had an issue getting a set fitting in mine, I just placed it between the seats. May be a good idea to strap it down as I almost got a driver to the face while driving.

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2211778)
Z does look better IMO to but GTR :tup:

Yes a set of clubs will fit in the back but only one and the cart should fit as long as it folds up nicely

I like red cars, especially ones that are "meant" to be red! :yum: :tup:

Thank You. That's nice to know.

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2211774)
yah, just move to a larger house, keep your GTR and buy a Z. you can afford it.

Afford it?...yes I think I can somehow manage it. But wife is too attached to our house.

Now, I don't suppose you'd tell me to get a new wife next? :eek::rolleyes:

kenchan 03-13-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK_GTR (Post 2211819)
Afford it?...yes I think I can somehow manage it. But wife is too attached to our house.

Now, I don't suppose you'd tell me to get a new wife next? :eek::rolleyes:

:icon18: no no im a family kinda guy. :tup:

understandable how your wife is attached to the house.

anyway, GL to you and hope you find that car that fits your needs. :D

PK_GTR 03-13-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2211822)
:icon18: no no im a family kinda guy. :tup:

understandable how your wife is attached to the house.

anyway, GL to you and hope you find that car that fits your needs. :D

Grazie.

and Yes, happy wife happy life. LOL


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