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Originally Posted by 1st (Post 2203044)

Tell your friend he is a waste.

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just keep your stock parts and put them back on the car when ready to sell.

last time i sold one of my cars to carmax, they gave me an apprasial $1000 less than the stock car value due to the mods on the car. they gave me the option to bring back the stock bits the next day loose in the trunk so that i get the full amount. i just went back the next day to get the full amount and just gave them the aftermarket stuff that was still on the car. i didnt really care

He doesn't even have an STI?... Thats like owning a v6 auto mustang and trash talking about how fast your car is...

Mods for a car (the basic bolt-ons) are not just for performance but for enjoyment. When you hear the rev up of the engine etc its like sex, especially if your driving a roadster. Makes your car WAY more enjoyable, esp the Z being its so quiet stock.

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19 (Post 2203188)

He doesn't even have an STI?... Thats like owning a v6 auto mustang and trash talking about how fast your car is...

Hold on a sec tho, 3.7 v6 stangs with track pack did pretty good in CD's lightning lap did it?

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Originally Posted by FireDan50 (Post 2202676)

Its a waste of money...if you're on welfare, are over your head in debt, have children to feed, etc etc etc.

:iagree: EXACTLY!!!

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2203038)

Many of the performance mods will decrease the resale value, especially at a dealer or car lot. Going by what the few sales ppl I have talked to about this say, they assume that, even if the mods themselves don't affect reliability, the heavy right foot that usually goes with performance mods does. YMMV.

I'm not trying to say one shouldn't mod their car to their heart's content, just that it is seldom a wise business decision. You just don't get your money back when you go to sell. But most mods aren't business - I've spent a lot of money on sex, drugs, and rock & roll that I'll never get back, but it was still worth it. :driving:

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There are mainly two group of buyers.

Non-car enthusiast - They always look for something legit. And they will think nothing will be more legit and reliable then a stock car.

Car enthusiast - They know their sh!t and they love to mod their cars. BUT, they'd rather to get a stock car to begin/have fun with rather then let YOU mod on the car and sell it to them. They have their own opinion and taste on mods thus they will look for a stock car too.

The only group of people will(or should I say want to) buy a moded car is those kids who are turning themself into car enthusiast while don't know much sh!t yet will think wow this moded 370 is so cool! BUT usually they don't have money to buy one...

So to sum up, doesn't matter how good YOU think or in fact the aftermarket parts you put on your car, less buyers will be intestested in your car. Thus lower the car value.

Based on my true story... I ended up getting more money back and sold my G35 coupe much faster after I put the car back to stock. There were soooo many people interested in my Fast Intentions CBE and HKS coilovers but not so much on my G35 coupe WITH the Fast Intentions and HKS on it...

I drive a leased base model z... I had to spend at least 5,000 in mods just to make the car enjoyable...

Horrible stock oversteer and tires had to go= swift springs $300, Michelin pilot super sport 1200$
Embarrassing quiet exhaust = fast intentions 1300$
Horrible stock speakers blown first 2 days, $500 for headunit and speakers

Getting a z is a waste of money too, might as well get a civic.

OP, your friend actually gets the point. Put it in this way, if you can't beat a M3 in a stock 370z, you still can't beat them in a 370z with all the bolt on mods... The intake and exhaust only gains you at higher end but sacrifice a little on lower end. So street driving you won't feel a sh!t unless you don't mind to rev the engine up high all the time... It's the nature of NA cars... His factory turbocharged WRX will probably gain much more on the exhaust and intake mods.

Having said that, mod is fun and the exhaust will give you the awesome sound so it's not total waste of money.

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Originally Posted by ubs234 (Post 2202641)

My friend is a big car enthusiast. And is the most knowledgeable person about cars that i know. He literally is no noob or ricer or someone who just think he knows. He does and when I research it from the correct sources, he's always correct to the dot. He says that getting Stillen Gen 3 intakes and Fast intentions CBE and a UPrev tune is all a waste of money just for 30hp and a couple of more torque since I will never ever even feel the difference unless I'm on a track and going 100mph or more. He says that daily driving it's a waste of money to get any of those mods. Especially because what I am doing is all Naturally aspirated and I don't get much gains unless I go Forced Induction. Do you think I'm wasting my money with these mods and i wont feel it at all?

I think your friend is a waste of Friendship :icon23:

Talking from experience, yes you will feel the difference, yes you will hear the difference, and yes, makes the car that much more pleasurable to drive just around town or on a cruise... But then, it is your money and your decision.

I get what your friend is saying. Other engines take mods better than the VQ, there really can't even be dsicussion about that. Will you notice with mods? Yes but come on the VQ needs FI to really see any benifit from Mods. You take an STi and just a few simple mods you can pull a lot of power out of it. Dollar for dollar there are much more mod friendly engines over the VQ. You get on these forums and when you have a totally stock car people don't understand. I go through that on the G forums as I won't do mods to my IPL. My Z I have but have I seen any real HP gains? Not much, but my Z sounds better!

It's okay, I know people who still doesn't know the 370Z exists.

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2203327)

It's okay, I know people who still doesn't know the 370Z exists.

Is that a 350Z?

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well I would say. your friend got a point because he said for daily drive. Do they have any highway or street in this country that I can legally drive over 100 mphs on my daily drive without getting pull over by the cops? and it is only 30 hp gain and u feel at high speed or whatever he said. However, It is your car man. You can do whatever you want. He was saying waste of money. However, It is not his money. If I have a million dollar for saving, I wont care who will complain me. I will get a Lamborghini even ppl said it is waste of money because it is only 2 seats, but It is my entertainment!!!