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grant 03-01-2013 05:11 PM

Consumer Reports Best/Worst by brand
 
copied this from an online article, doesn't seem to want to maintain the format though:

The list below includes all brands for which Consumer Reports has tested at least three different models recently, thereby excluding Fiat, Jaguar, Land Rover, and Smart.

Best Worst
Acura MDX ILX (2.0L)
Audi A6 3.0 Premium Plus QuattroA5 Premium Plus (2.0T)*
BMW 135i X5 35i Premium
Buick Regal CXL (turbo) Verano Leather (2.4)
Cadillac CTS Premium (3.6) Escalade (base)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Spark 1LT
Chrysler 300 Limited (V6) 200 Limited (V6)
Dodge Charger SXT Plus (V6) Avenger SXT (4-cyl.)
Ford Fusion SE Hybrid Fiesta SE (sedan)
GMC Acadia SLT2 Yukon Hybrid
Honda Accord EX-L(V6)/LX (4-cyl.) Insight EX
Hyundai Genesis 3.8 Accent GLS (sedan)
Infiniti G37 Journey (sedan) QX 56
Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (V6) Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
Kia Optima SX (2.0T) Rio EX
Lexus LS 460L GX 460
Lincoln Navigator Ultimate MKS (base, 3.7)
Mazda MX-5 Miata Grand Touring 2 Touring
Mercedes-Benz E350 BlueTec ML350
Mini Cooper (base, hatchback) Cooper Clubman
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR Galant ES (4-cyl.)
Nissan 370Z Coupe Touring Versa SV (sedan[/COLOR])
Porsche Boxster 2.7 Cayenne (base V6)
Scion FR-S iQ
Subaru Impreza WRX STi Tribeca Limited
Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE FJ Cruiser
Volkswagen Golf TDI (manual) Beetle 2.5L/Jetta SE (2.5)
Volvo S60 T5 XC90 3.2

Red__Zed 03-01-2013 05:24 PM

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Consumer Reports names the best and worst cars by brand

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1362180257

grant 03-01-2013 05:27 PM

Thanks Red

dP3NGU1N 03-01-2013 05:28 PM

For those who can't understand it I'm guessing for Nissan: Z touring = best and the Versa = worst.

**** my internet at work sucks.... :shakes head:

ATLsentra05 03-01-2013 05:31 PM

List seems pretty spot on imo

kenchan 03-01-2013 06:24 PM

yah whoever designed that versa sedan needs to be removed from the planet.

TheW3r3W0lf 03-01-2013 11:06 PM

Surprised to see the QX56 on there as worst from Infinity. I have rented them for business many times and have really liked the feel and features.

w0rM 03-01-2013 11:17 PM

Nice to see the 370z best in something for a change but I still don't put a whole lot of stock in these kinds of articles. Seems more like fluff than a critical and objective rating of models. Next week they'll be telling us how much the Z sucks again.

axmea? 03-01-2013 11:18 PM

Luv my G37 and 370Z and can relate to the article's message.

Montez 03-02-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheW3r3W0lf (Post 2192524)
Surprised to see the QX56 on there as worst from Infinity. I have rented them for business many times and have really liked the feel and features.

Its just like the Armada which its based on and the Titan, lots of issues. Those and the old Quest where the main culprits at putting Nissans reliability so low in recent years.

Red__Zed 03-02-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2192529)
Nice to see the 370z best in something for a change but I still don't put a whole lot of stock in these kinds of articles. Seems more like fluff than a critical and objective rating of models. Next week they'll be telling us how much the Z sucks again.

Consumer reports is always suspect.

When you list the STI as the most reliable Subaru, 135i as the most reliable BMW, Evo as the most reliable Mitsubishi...your methodology comes into question.

UNKNOWN_370 03-02-2013 02:41 PM

Positive or negative CR is full o shyt. As far as the 135 though. Reliability has increased a lot with the single twin scroll vs the TT. But to be top reliability??? I'd have to do that research myself.

Read T 03-02-2013 03:37 PM

So the sub-entry level inexpensive model is the worst? imagine that. I still like the versa for what it is.

KERMIT 03-02-2013 03:49 PM

Everyone loves CR when they say good things and throw a fit when they say bad things.

Human nature is funny.

PapoZalsa 03-02-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2191933)
For those who can't understand it I'm guessing for Nissan: Z touring = best and the Versa = worst.

**** my internet at work sucks.... :shakes head:

For the price the Versa is a very good car and excellent MPG! Bought my daughter one and no complains so far. :tup:

bdavis89 03-02-2013 08:02 PM

This list is the best and worst car, based on their road tests, NOT reliability.

Also, the 370z is now recommended, and the Mustang isn't. Made me :D

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TheW3r3W0lf 03-02-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montez (Post 2192962)
Its just like the Armada which its based on and the Titan, lots of issues. Those and the old Quest where the main culprits at putting Nissans reliability so low in recent years.

Ah okay, I suppose since I only rent them for short periods of time it would be hard to notice. Good to know!

Lug 03-05-2013 08:28 AM

Using CR for car advice is like using the Best Buy sales dude for your upcoming brain surgery. :D

RonZwanson 03-05-2013 12:03 PM

Consumer Reports, Consumer's Digest, etc. have their place. They're great for people looking to get the best value for their budget dollar. If I was looking for a mid-range commuter sedan (like an Altima, Fusion, Accord, etc) I'd at least take some of their findings into consideration.

But for people who are looking for cars like ours, the usual CR criteria don't really carry the same weight. I know I wasn't really considering cargo space or all-season capability when buying my Z. It's all about perspective.

We're also car enthusiasts. Of course we're going to disagree with any "expert review." DON'T TELL ME MY Z IS UNRELIABLE. IT ONLY LEFT ME STRANDED TWICE IN 6 MONTHS. THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH... :icon14:

Cmike2780 03-05-2013 12:19 PM

Interesting....but a completely pointless comparison. It's just another useless article brought to you by people that should stick to reviewing microwaves.

The Versa Sedan is currently the cheapest new car you can buy in the US market. I was looking at getting the sedan as a DD and I can honestly say the ameneties reflect the price. Nothing is standard equipment on the cheapest model. A tach is optional for god's sake. There's no reason to really buy this car new. To be fair though, Nissan designed this for people who want a brand new car and just need something that get's you from A to B with the least impact on your wallet. I ended up leasing a Civic.

The upcoming Versa Note actually looks pretty good. Reminds me of the Honda Fit, which would have been my first choice if buying instead of leasing.

Montez 03-05-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdavis89 (Post 2193453)
This list is the best and worst car, based on their road tests, NOT reliability.

Also, the 370z is now recommended, and the Mustang isn't. Made me :D

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Well the Stang is in the April 2013 Best and Worst Car edition that I just got yesterday.... Funny thing about them is they change perception on cars so often its crazy, one month its good the next month they hate it, next month they love it again......:gtfo2:

nmjaxx9 03-05-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montez (Post 2197762)
Well the Stang is in the April 2013 Best and Worst Car edition that I just got yesterday.... Funny thing about them is they change perception on cars so often its crazy, one month its good the next month they hate it, next month they love it again......:gtfo2:

:roflpuke2:

Most car magazines change their opinions on what they hear, its common but if some of them actually did some real research and had credible sources they wouldnt have all these assumptions/generalizations to go on. But then again I just read the magazines :tup:

PapoZalsa 03-06-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronzwanson (Post 2197441)
we're also car enthusiasts. Of course we're going to disagree with any "expert review." don't tell me my z is unreliable. It only left me stranded twice in 6 months. That's not that much... :icon14:

NOT a single time in 3 years plus.....;)

UNKNOWN_370 03-06-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 2200252)
NOT a single time in 3 years plus.....;)

Yeah... my z is one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned. For the performance and what i pay in maintenance... Awesome. Thus far, I've yet to own an unreliable Nissan. Knock on wood.

cossie1600 03-06-2013 09:16 PM

2 trips on the flat bed in 22K miles

axmea? 03-07-2013 01:08 AM

I gave up a long time ago. If I want reliability, I'd be in a Honda Accord but will be miserable. A good alternative is a hard to find un-modified S2000 or a plain Miata.

Lug 03-07-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2200284)
Yeah... my z is one of the most reliable cars I've ever owned. For the performance and what i pay in maintenance... Awesome. Thus far, I've yet to own an unreliable Nissan. Knock on wood.

My 2006 350Z has never had a non-wear problem. Brakes, tires, and oil are about the only things I've spent money on. I've never had another car that went almost 7 years w/o any problem. You'd almost thing it was made in 2004 1/2!

LiquidCrewZ 03-08-2013 12:35 AM

Someone frame that list..

JARblue 03-08-2013 09:22 AM

We own the best Nissan and the worst Acura. Other than going from 332 HP to 151 HP, the ILX is a solid car. But honestly, I cannot complain about a brand new Acura for >$25K and $250 monthly car payments (it helps that I don't have to drive it often :icon17:)

RonZwanson 03-08-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 2200252)
NOT a single time in 3 years plus.....;)

Well good for you.:gtfo2:

Ha. Just kidding. I had the clutch cylinder fail on me when I was four hours from home (not my fault). I also had the SLU fail on me outside of a frickin' KFC. (I say this is 50/50 my fault. 50% Nissan's fault for a crap unit, 50% mine for knowing about it and uh, doing nothing.) So, all regular '09 problems. Nothing out of the ordinary though. Other than that it's been reliable.


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