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Eighties Meta 01-19-2013 12:49 PM

15K mile service price check
 
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Took my Z to the dealer this morning for it's 15K mile service.

Got the premium service, their price was $386.00

seemed reasonable for a full scale checked which included brake service, battery service, oil change, new wipers along with checking out the trans, etc and pretty much everything.

Everything checked out good but does that price seem about right compared to what you guys get charged for the same service?

Thanks
Metal

updated with picture of the bill, they did replace the brake fluid....

luigi90210 01-19-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eighties Meta (Post 2119946)
Took my Z to the dealer this morning for it's 15K mile service.

Got the premium service, their price was $386.00

seemed reasonable for a full scale checked which included brake service, battery service, oil change, new wipers along with checking out the trans, etc and pretty much everything.

Everything checked out good but does that price seem about right compared to what you guys get charged for the same service?

Thanks
Metal

it cost me about 80 to get an oil change done with my own filter

honestly i think its a good deal

DEpointfive0 01-19-2013 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eighties Meta (Post 2119946)
Took my Z to the dealer this morning for it's 15K mile service.

Got the premium service, their price was $386.00

seemed reasonable for a full scale checked which included brake service, battery service, oil change, new wipers along with checking out the trans, etc and pretty much everything.

Everything checked out good but does that price seem about right compared to what you guys get charged for the same service?

Thanks
Metal

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2119974)
it cost me about 80 to get an oil change done with my own filter

honestly i think its a good deal

^^^ What??? $80 for an oil change?!?!?!? What type of oil???





Getting back to the OP, they're shafting you...
Let's rattle off that list:
Brake service? What the hell does that mean? Your pads and rotors are FINE, if they're flushing brake fluid, that's a different story (I paid $75 for a GTR fluid flush)
Battery service?!?!?! :shakes head: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:
That's gotta be the BS of the century, the only thing they will do is hook it up to a machine and try to sell you a new battery... MAYBE they'll put water in it... MAYBE...
Checking out the trans... Again:
:icon18::icon18::icon18: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:

You have an auto... You can't check ANYTHING, there is no dipstick, NOTHING, it's sealed...


Oil change, depends on oil... Wipers... $25 for both?

You have a 2009, so no in cabin air filter too, make sure they don't stick it to you on that


And they MIGHT suggest a differential flush, that's a 50/50, (you don't have the SP, so not worth it really) should cost $60-80 at the dealershit





PLEASE give me the number of this dealershit so I can call and cuss them out...



And if you have ANY questions, don't hesitate to call or text me: (310)eight nine three-4207

EDIT: I just saw the OP already did this...
Brother, the forum is here for questions like that, next time ask us FIRST, lol

Nailzs 01-19-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2119974)
it cost me about 80 to get an oil change done with my own filter

honestly i think its a good deal

A bit high. When I bought my Z the dealer gave me 5 dollar oil changes for the life of the warranty. I made sure to ask if the oil was Nissan recommended for the Z. He said it was.

2xtreme1 01-19-2013 02:41 PM

@depointfive0
Does the 11 have in cabin filter ?

UNKNOWN_370 01-19-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2120002)
^^^ What??? $80 for an oil change?!?!?!? What type of oil???





Getting back to the OP, they're shafting you...
Let's rattle off that list:
Brake service? What the hell does that mean? Your pads and rotors are FINE, if they're flushing brake fluid, that's a different story (I paid $75 for a GTR fluid flush)
Battery service?!?!?! :shakes head: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:
That's gotta be the BS of the century, the only thing they will do is hook it up to a machine and try to sell you a new battery... MAYBE they'll put water in it... MAYBE...
Checking out the trans... Again:
:icon18::icon18::icon18: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:

You have an auto... You can't check ANYTHING, there is no dipstick, NOTHING, it's sealed...


Oil change, depends on oil... Wipers... $25 for both?

You have a 2009, so no in cabin air filter too, make sure they don't stick it to you on that


And they MIGHT suggest a differential flush, that's a 50/50, (you don't have the SP, so not worth it really) should cost $60-80 at the dealershit





PLEASE give me the number of this dealershit so I can call and cuss them out...



And if you have ANY questions, don't hesitate to call or text me: (310)eight nine three-4207

EDIT: I just saw the OP already did this...
Brother, the forum is here for questions like that, next time ask us FIRST, lol

While the car didn't come with a filter inserted. The filter compartment is there and you can add a filter. I don't know why Nissan just didn't put the filter in there "Year one." That's strange.

Eighties Meta 01-19-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2120002)
^^^ What??? $80 for an oil change?!?!?!? What type of oil???





Getting back to the OP, they're shafting you...
Let's rattle off that list:
Brake service? What the hell does that mean? Your pads and rotors are FINE, if they're flushing brake fluid, that's a different story (I paid $75 for a GTR fluid flush)
Battery service?!?!?! :shakes head: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:
That's gotta be the BS of the century, the only thing they will do is hook it up to a machine and try to sell you a new battery... MAYBE they'll put water in it... MAYBE...
Checking out the trans... Again:
:icon18::icon18::icon18: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:

You have an auto... You can't check ANYTHING, there is no dipstick, NOTHING, it's sealed...


Oil change, depends on oil... Wipers... $25 for both?

You have a 2009, so no in cabin air filter too, make sure they don't stick it to you on that


And they MIGHT suggest a differential flush, that's a 50/50, (you don't have the SP, so not worth it really) should cost $60-80 at the dealershit





PLEASE give me the number of this dealershit so I can call and cuss them out...



And if you have ANY questions, don't hesitate to call or text me: (310)eight nine three-4207

EDIT: I just saw the OP already did this...
Brother, the forum is here for questions like that, next time ask us FIRST, lol

yep, asking after the fact does seem a bit ridiculous but I had made the appointment weeks prior so just went ahead with it.

luigi90210 01-19-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2120002)
^^^ What??? $80 for an oil change?!?!?!? What type of oil???





5 quarts of ester based oil which cost about $40 and $40 for labor.... doesnt seem unreasonable, i could have put just regular mobile 1 oil in my car but i decided to spend the extra money on the ester oil

luigi90210 01-19-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2120017)
A bit high. When I bought my Z the dealer gave me 5 dollar oil changes for the life of the warranty. I made sure to ask if the oil was Nissan recommended for the Z. He said it was.

not really, it would have cost me about $40(a bit more because redline ester oil was about $8.50/quart) for 5quarts of redline engine oil, $10 for the filter, $10 for the oil catcher, and gas both ways so i can dispose of the used oil and purchase supplies

when reviewing the parts nissan used(which was only oil) it cost them $40 for oil, $10 for my filter i ordered online, and $40 for labor and it was convient because i work close to the dealer so i dropped off my car there before going to work, and picked up my car at lunch vs changing it myself i would have had to take time out of my day to change the oil

but you got a good deal

DEpointfive0 01-19-2013 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2120270)
5 quarts of ester based oil which cost about $40 and $40 for labor.... doesnt seem unreasonable, i could have put just regular mobile 1 oil in my car but i decided to spend the extra money on the ester oil

Ok, Ester Oil is good stuff, $80 is ok, because the oil costs the stealershit $9/qt

Masa 01-19-2013 09:12 PM

I never go by the 'Dealer Recommended' service - its a way to shaft you.

I look in the service manual and look at what needs to be done in there and even then I let my oil ride out to 5000 and not 3750.

To make things short, the Z really doesn't need anything but oil changes for the first 50k miles.

eastwest2300 01-19-2013 09:36 PM

Hey OP, all the stuff they did to your Z, you could have done yourself. Take a look at the DIY (Do it Yourself) sections of this forum. Its all fairly easy and straight forward. You live in MD, and there's plenty of guys in the MID A section including myself, that will help you any way we can.

DEpointfive0 01-19-2013 11:06 PM

^While this MAY be true, a lot of the times people do not want to take any risk themselves, or they suck at tools... That's why I don't suggest that option, because I don't know the OP's situation


In any case, be happy they didn't shaft you for ALL the 15k service items (costs like $700)

But for the 30k, ask us first, lol

chrischhorn 01-20-2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2120354)
Ok, Ester Oil is good stuff, $80 is ok, because the oil costs the stealershit $9/qt

Lol @ $9/qt.......here in Hawaii, its $17/qt. :shakes head: They quoted me originally $140 for an oil change till I made connections :happydance:

DEpointfive0 01-20-2013 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 2120679)
Lol @ $9/qt.......here in Hawaii, its $17/qt. :shakes head: They quoted me originally $140 for an oil change till I made connections :happydance:

There is someone on the islands who will sell you 2 quarts for a beer, lol
I WAS going to buy them, but it wasn't worth it


Change your sig to say "custom DEpointfive0 manifold"
What the hell is the M370, lol

chrischhorn 01-20-2013 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2120681)
There is someone on the islands who will sell you 2 quarts for a beer, lol
I WAS going to buy them, but it wasn't worth it


Change your sig to say "custom DEpointfive0 manifold"
What the hell is the M370, lol

When it gets here..........IF EVER!!!! :roflpuke2: Send me tracking # guy!

LiquidCrewZ 01-20-2013 02:41 AM

Wow, I guess I'll have to watch what they want to charge me for services at the stealership. That's umm a little excessive. But, at least it's done and you don't have to worry about it.

bvl 01-20-2013 06:31 AM

Seriously folks it seems the majority of people on this list think their time is worth everything and someone else's nothing. I enjoy working on my cars, but that doesn't prevent me from having the dealer work on the Z as my time is valuable compared to trying to carefully lift the car without damaging the unibody frame rails :D

OP: price is fair for what they did. The only quibble I have and why I also don't get 'packages', is the fuel system additives they put in are 1) not needed if you use good detergent fuel and 2) over priced.

I am assuming MOA is short for motor oil additive? No idea what it is from that recept. 44K is that B44K fuel system conditioner?

That and an overpriced Nissan brake fluid are the only parts of the service that seem a high to me. 2 hours labor to check things, change oil and bleed brake system is reasonable to me, at an average of $100/hr for labor.

At any major service intervalI would simply ask for things specifically...then you can have them check off your book *after* the fact. Whatever is recommended, ask for oil, filters, brake fluid (if needed) and have them simply inspect stuff as needed. No additives etc...no 'premium packages'.

Stick to the book, you will save a few sawbucks :)

- b

Strangler 01-20-2013 06:56 PM

I don't know about you guys but my oil change is ~$20. This is at the dealer and they use the Kendall brand. Not all dealers have same prices though. I know that the other dealer that I don't go to anymore charges ~$40.

kfull 01-20-2013 09:03 PM

new wipers at 15k? :confused:

luigi90210 01-20-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bvl (Post 2120742)
Seriously folks it seems the majority of people on this list think their time is worth everything and someone else's nothing. I enjoy working on my cars, but that doesn't prevent me from having the dealer work on the Z as my time is valuable compared to trying to carefully lift the car without damaging the unibody frame rails :D

THIS

sometimes it isnt worth it to do things yourself, its cheaper when you have free time but when you dont, its inconvenient and sometimes a hassle if you're tired from working all day, or just dealing with life

there are things i would change regardless if i had time or not like check fluids, change wipers, ect. because it takes like 10 mins at most to complete those tasks, but i would never change oil, change brakes, change transmission fluid, ect. if i didnt have like a whole day off or something to complete those tasks because those take a while to complete
Quote:

Originally Posted by kfull (Post 2121707)
new wipers at 15k? :confused:

mine needed new wipers at 15k, but i bought Bosch wipers at my local auto store and changed them in the parking lot, i would never have the dealer change them though unless the labor was free and i was already at the dealer buying the wipers and the tech was going to change it right then and there so i can leave

Akmcmahon 01-21-2013 12:11 PM

Hehe, I was gonna say your dealer is priced pretty good for a 15k service. My local dealer told me $490. Reason I probably won't go to the stealer. That includes rotating and balancing the tires. Ester oil change is $80 here as well.

RiCharlie 01-21-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2120002)
^^^ What??? $80 for an oil change?!?!?!? What type of oil???





Getting back to the OP, they're shafting you...
Let's rattle off that list:
Brake service? What the hell does that mean? Your pads and rotors are FINE, if they're flushing brake fluid, that's a different story (I paid $75 for a GTR fluid flush)
Battery service?!?!?! :shakes head: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:
That's gotta be the BS of the century, the only thing they will do is hook it up to a machine and try to sell you a new battery... MAYBE they'll put water in it... MAYBE...
Checking out the trans... Again:
:icon18::icon18::icon18: Tell the dealer to :gtfo2:

You have an auto... You can't check ANYTHING, there is no dipstick, NOTHING, it's sealed...


Oil change, depends on oil... Wipers... $25 for both?

You have a 2009, so no in cabin air filter too, make sure they don't stick it to you on that


And they MIGHT suggest a differential flush, that's a 50/50, (you don't have the SP, so not worth it really) should cost $60-80 at the dealershit





PLEASE give me the number of this dealershit so I can call and cuss them out...



And if you have ANY questions, don't hesitate to call or text me: (310)eight nine three-4207

EDIT: I just saw the OP already did this...
Brother, the forum is here for questions like that, next time ask us FIRST, lol


I totally agree..the dealer check includes things like checking seat belts..an auto mechanic that I have a great deal of trust in told me he could do the same thing for half price...

I think dealers trade on fear..fear that unless you are using them some horrible thing might go wrong..
My son has an audi A4 and something went wrong...the dealer wanted $1200 ..he fixed it himself for under $400..and it took him only about an hour,.,..figured a trained audi mechanic could do the work in half that time..so exactly how much do they get per hour??

Sales@AAMComp 01-21-2013 04:11 PM

http://aamcompetition.com/files/cont...rservice_1.PDF

Kevin bring us the car when you hit 30k :D haha

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp (Post 2123015)
http://aamcompetition.com/files/cont...rservice_1.PDF

Kevin bring us the car when you hit 30k :D haha

I'm sorry to hate on a forum sponsor...

But you're not really saving anyone any money... Inspect battery terminals? Flush coolant? Really? You're sticking it to the customer too...



OP. and anyone else... Just go a la carte in your services

Oil change
Brake fluid change
Diff fluid change
MAYBE M/T fluid if you beat on it

kenchan 01-21-2013 04:28 PM

actually the brake, diff, and mt fluid can wait till a later day unless tracked.

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2123058)
actually the brake, diff, and mt fluid can wait till a later day unless tracked.

Lol, I agree, but if you want to be anal, sure


And if you're being taken to the cleaners getting quoted for $600...


What I said should be $300-400 at the dealer, and that's not a good deal, but you get peace of mind of the dealer I guess



Again, I did a GTR fluid flush at 20k miles and a PS fluid flush for $140 all said and done because I felt it needed the change

kenchan 01-21-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2123077)
Lol, I agree, but if you want to be anal, sure


And if you're being taken to the cleaners getting quoted for $600...


What I said should be $300-400 at the dealer, and that's not a good deal, but you get peace of mind of the dealer I guess



Again, I did a GTR fluid flush at 20k miles and a PS fluid flush for $140 all said and done because I felt it needed the change

yah, i suppose. im not into changing fluids/bits that are not necessary.

Sales@AAMComp 01-21-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2123050)
I'm sorry to hate on a forum sponsor...

But you're not really saving anyone any money... Inspect battery terminals? Flush coolant? Really? You're sticking it to the customer too...



OP. and anyone else... Just go a la carte in your services

Oil change
Brake fluid change
Diff fluid change
MAYBE M/T fluid if you beat on it

We pull almost identically what Nissan calls for their service maintenance intervals, minus charging dealership rates/prices, What you think may or may not be important is completely up to you. They're nothing more than glorified fluid change services; however just because there is a lot of "inspection" and "check" of this and that doesn't mean we charge 30 mins for each check nor does it really add up to your total cost, or what you would considering "sticking it to your customer"

Sure, want to come in and specify your own maintenance service? Of course, you can do whatever you'd like, we just stick to what Nissan suggests :)

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khoi@AAMComp (Post 2123118)
We pull almost identically what Nissan calls for their service maintenance intervals, minus charging dealership rates/prices, What you think may or may not be important is completely up to you. They're nothing more than glorified fluid change services; however just because there is a lot of "inspection" and "check" of this and that doesn't mean we charge 30 mins for each check nor does it really add up to your total cost, or what you would considering "sticking it to your customer"

Sure, want to come in and specify your own maintenance service? Of course, you can do whatever you'd like, we just stick to what Nissan suggests :)

Fair enough!
I really didn't want to bash on you guys, but yeah, if someone wants exactly what the dealer does, your price is better than theirs
And I'd rather support a forum sponsor over a dealershit

Eighties Meta 01-21-2013 04:54 PM

wow, didn't mean to start a mild firestorm but me I have no mechanical talent at all so I'm your techno-nerd but I can't turn a wrench for crap. As an example just this weekend I simply wanted to change the interior dome lights to those light blue super bright LED's. Got the covers off, pulled out the old bulbs, put in the new one's and guess what, right comes on with power on and goes off with power off, left stays on all the time. So I go OK, I'll put the original dumb ones back and guess what now left one won't come at all but the right one works as expected so the one little tiny thing I decide to do I can't even do correctly so when it comes to car I must maintain a hands-off policy.

and as we talked about Khoi I will be having the future service at the AAM shop as I didn't do the 15K because I had already scheduled the appointment with the dealer so I knew I was going to be charged higher but was willing to absorb it for one time. I think you're quote was around $150 cheaper in price.

so, if anyone was wondering why I don't do my own stuff on the car hopefully that explains it, I love cars but no talent to work on them, pretty simple.

DEpointfive0 01-21-2013 04:57 PM

Lol, that's A-OK by me brother. I understand that some people don't DO tools, and some people don't have the space



In any case, brother, we're here for you if you have any questions! :tup:

Haboob 01-22-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfull (Post 2121707)
new wipers at 15k? :confused:

We have to get new wiper blades every 6mos it seems.

Or, I just don't get new ones and drive faster when it rains. :driving: :ugh2:

DEpointfive0 01-22-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfull (Post 2121707)
new wipers at 15k? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2124541)
We have to get new wiper blades every 6mos it seems.

Or, I just don't get new ones and drive faster when it rains. :driving: :ugh2:


I think it depends how anal you are... Personally I coat my windshield in Rain-X, and I don't use my wipers in the rain really... BUT I use them every day to get dust off (I am VERY anal about that)
An I get new wipers every year or so, sometimes sooner

03g35coupe6mt 01-22-2013 12:18 PM

most of that stuff they should check when you bring it in . they do it whenever i get an inspection for $0 ( multipoint inspection) , id like to know where someone got redline for 8.50 a qt . fluids i do myself , brakes etc. and they always try to sell me friggin wipers :gtfo2:

Cmike2780 01-22-2013 01:36 PM

Know this in the future.... any "inspection" or "check" means it's usually just a visual inspection of the parts. What the dealer adds in the "package" is mostly marketing BS to make it look like a lot of stuff is being done.

From the list, the actual service is:
-Replace the air filters_$35
-Oil & Filter_$24.63 (I think they just used regular oil btw)
-Wiper Blades_$33.44
-Brake Flush & Fluid_$45+Flush? (A new bottle of high quality brake fluid is about $20)
-Fuel System additive (44k)?_$22.49
-Engine Additive (MOA)?_$13.80
-Battery Pads_$6.50 (These are just used to clean the battery connection contacts, not really needed to be honest unless you see a ton of corrossion of the terminals)
-----------------
If we add those up, it's about $180 for parts, so you paid about $175 for labor.

The parts list says $145.86 total, which makes me think they didn't replace your air filters. With this total, you're paying $210 for labor. An oil flush runs about $80-$150 depending on where you have it done, so that's pretty much the bulk of the labor....which means you paid an extra $60-$130 to have them "inspect" stuff they should normally do for free anyways whenever you get your oil change. Some of that stuff is also inspected when you, well.....get the state inspection done. If you know nothing about cars, the extra $60-$130 may be worth it to you. For the guys that do all this in their driveway though, it's $210 worth of overpriced, mediocre work by low skilled mechanics. The guys doing the maintence crap are usually at the bottom of the totem pole. Next time, see exactly what you need done and don't get suckered into these packages. Better yet, get your hands dirty and do some of this stuff on your own (a 3 year old can figure out if the lights work or not). Some delearship service rep's actually know very little about cars and are just their to make a sale.

They ask me if I want my tires rotated every time I go. :wtf:

Read the maintenance schedule that came with your manual. It will say what's required, recommended and at what intervals. The manual also has basic maintenance instructions you can do yourself even if you have no mechanical skills.

TexasChuck 01-24-2013 04:23 PM

Mobil One Oil
 
According to Mobil One's web site, Mobile One does contain ester. I use it. Now getting a quality filter ??????????? that takes some looking.
cheers

Mr_Cann 02-02-2013 11:27 PM

hmm I'm like confused....sorry but I don't know anything about oil so is ester oil a brand or type of oil??...I'm gonna go ahead and assume its synthetic also?

Montez 02-03-2013 01:53 PM

Real rip off for 90% checks, which they check when they do the multipoint inspection when you get a basic oil change anyways..... Have had 8 Z's and Maximas throughout the years and have never done those 15k/60 checks and have never had any issues...I just did what was needed alacarte and saved lots!


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