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lemon-fresh 01-10-2013 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2102938)
so like a computer built in and AWD?

it wouldnt be a Z if it had AWD now would it?(well a real Z imo) and as far as a built in computer goes, an OBD2 bluetooth adapter and an android tablet installed in the dash with the torque app can cover that....
Ugh, no. Upgraded transmission (something similar to what the GTR has but rwd), differential, suspension etc. Basically all the stuff you need to support a high horse power build (on the track) but designed as a single package. Heck you could throw in the fancy computer but keep the car rwd, might be cool.

luigi90210 01-10-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2103301)
Ugh, no. Upgraded transmission (something similar to what the GTR has but rwd), differential, suspension etc. Basically all the stuff you need to support a high horse power build (on the track) but designed as a single package. Heck you could throw in the fancy computer but keep the car rwd, might be cool.
i dont get whats wrong with the 370z's manual transmission? if you are talking about the auto Z then yes i agree because torque converters suck and suspension wise i think the nismo 370z has the same handling as the GTR(only difference being the GTR is faster through corners cause of AWD)
but the diff, brakes, cooling, ect. will all have to be upgraded

anyhow though the nismo 370z is just a beast and if you are not looking for luxuries and want performance, i would get the nismo, if you are looking for luxuries like sat nav, heated seats, leather, ect. the touring/sport is the best way to go, but either way you cant go wrong when purchasing a Z

TheGreatOne 01-10-2013 03:39 PM
Surprised so many people feel the SRM is rough, I love it, rarely turn it off. Its probably the reason I engine break lol. The downshifts are butter. Its really good for time attack as well..

Z clutch definitely takes some learning, but once you get it, its fine. More challenging to manipulate than other cars...it can make you feel like a newbie until you get it.

kenchan 01-10-2013 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2103870)
i dont get whats wrong with the 370z's manual transmission?
i dont either. i think it's the driver.

LMBmikeZ 01-10-2013 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2103892)
i dont either. i think it's the driver.
:iagree: but I think the clutch helper spring is a great way to help improve the response/feedback you get from the pedal :tup: everyone loves it that has done it!

forza370z 01-10-2013 07:57 PM
Are you guys complaining the Z clutch being too soft or too stiff? Or the on/off switch kinda feeling?

LMBmikeZ 01-10-2013 09:05 PM
IMO the pedal feels to soft OEM.......but many people have already said this and there's many threads on the issue :tup:

SoCalBoy 01-10-2013 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2104236)
Are you guys complaining the Z clutch being too soft or too stiff? Or the on/off switch kinda feeling?

both...it's drivers preference on clutch feel. I'm use to mine feeling somewhat firm. As for the SRM, My Z does not have it so I wanted to do the test drive with it on. I do understand that it takes some getting use to if one is use to rev matching their self.

daisuke149 01-10-2013 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2101022)
Yeah you did you dirty whore! Lol



I get TONS of satisfaction bringing people to the dark side, Automatic, lol


The 370Z's REALLY is THE best AT you can get for less than... About 100k
the gtr non black edition is less than 100k...

the porsche tranny...

vw DSG

forza370z 01-10-2013 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalBoy (Post 2104330)
both...it's drivers preference on clutch feel. I'm use to mine feeling somewhat firm. As for the SRM, My Z does not have it so I wanted to do the test drive with it on. I do understand that it takes some getting use to if one is use to rev matching their self.
I see. That's why I am confused because some people said it's too soft while others said it's too firm. I've tried VW GTI before and felt the padel is even softer but more linear.

Yeah the SRM takes little get used to. But I think it works great. It's a lazy feature for lazy people like me. Lol.

CHZ 01-10-2013 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 2104381)
the gtr non black edition is less than 100k...

the porsche tranny...

vw DSG
Hes was referring to an automatic transmission. The GTR, Porsche and VW are dual clutch manual with auto shift. Totally different design.

luigi90210 01-11-2013 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 2103887)
Surprised so many people feel the SRM is rough, I love it, rarely turn it off. Its probably the reason I engine break lol. The downshifts are butter. Its really good for time attack as well..

Z clutch definitely takes some learning, but once you get it, its fine. More challenging to manipulate than other cars...it can make you feel like a newbie until you get it.
i definitely agree with this, i felt like a newb when i was driving my car and not getting smooth shifts at first but eventually i got used to it

SRM is amazing though, i dont know what i would do without it now because im so used to it
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2103892)
i dont either. i think it's the driver.
i cant agree more, the clutch takes some getting use to but once you have that down, its easy to drive
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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2104180)
:iagree: but I think the clutch helper spring is a great way to help improve the response/feedback you get from the pedal :tup: everyone loves it that has done it!
does the clutch helper spring help out that much?
i have noticed there isnt much feed back from the clutch but i thought that was because of the OEM clutch and not the spring

daisuke149 01-11-2013 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CHZ (Post 2104475)
Hes was referring to an automatic transmission. The GTR, Porsche and VW are dual clutch manual with auto shift. Totally different design.
If im not pushing in a clutch and shifting gears, its an automatic. Doesn't matter how they actually make it work mechanically, it automatically does the shifting for you. Thus an automatic.

FairladyZ 01-11-2013 08:49 AM
Dude you guys want to feel pussy clutch.

Go into a frs and step on the clutch.

The scions clutch is super soft and retarded. It feels like nothing. I thought the 370z was soft lol. The frs is on another level

Zoren 370 01-11-2013 10:53 AM
I do not understand why so much fuz about the clutch feel on the Z. I find it perfectly fine never had any issues with it nor have the desire to change the clutch spring to make it softer.

Try driving a GT3 and then lets talk about clutch feel at the end of the day you will have calf muscles as big as loaf of bread.

cossie1600 01-11-2013 11:32 AM
gt3 clutch is fine to me. the gearbox feels pretty crappy though

kenchan 01-11-2013 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2105035)
I do not understand why so much fuz about the clutch feel on the Z. I find it perfectly fine never had any issues with it nor have the desire to change the clutch spring to make it softer.
missing the point. it's not to make the clutch softer, it's to remove the distortion from the return spring. the pedal return feels too linear from clutch-in to out while clutch spring itself is not.

i suppose if one's not driven too many other MT cars this might feel 'normal' to them, but atleast to me, it is not. that helper spring needs to be removed/replaced to feel like a real MT clutch.

elmz 01-11-2013 11:49 AM
^Exactly. I actually didn't take the spring out until 2 years into it. I was perfectly fine with it(I just got used to it). But after I took it out, it was like finding an old friend. I instinctively remembered this was how it's suppose to feel like.

forza370z 01-11-2013 12:56 PM
^^ So the helper spring will make the pedal feels harder?

FairladyZ 01-11-2013 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2105133)
missing the point. it's not to make the clutch softer, it's to remove the distortion from the return spring. the pedal return feels too linear from clutch-in to out while clutch spring itself is not.

i suppose if one's not driven too many other MT cars this might feel 'normal' to them, but atleast to me, it is not. that helper spring needs to be removed/replaced to feel like a real MT clutch.

Maybe I'm weird, I thought the spring mod made it feel like **** cause of the slop and free play up top.

It made the clutch points more predictable so you know when it grabs but the ridiculous amount if pedal sloppiness turned me off.

Basically I took it off, now I drive stock and completely forget how bad I use to think it was. I got use to it, it takes time

The sti clutch is so much better, I had a 2005

kenchan 01-11-2013 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2105353)
^^ So the helper spring will make the pedal feels harder?
more like disconnected to the clutch.

take it out and see. it's an easy 2min job. all you need is 2 functional hands, one needle nosed pliers, and maybe a flashlight.

jcosta79 01-11-2013 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalBoy (Post 2100984)
So I got to test drive a 2013 Nismo, very disappointed.:shakes head: Not what I made it out to be. Was considering upgrading from my 09 Z to a nismo and was all excited to be behind the wheel of it. Dealer was kool as hell, let me take it on the freeway and test her out:tup: Wasn't feeling it though, the rev match took away all the fun. Sometimes it was clean other times it was jumping. I know that's due to me not being use to it. Clutch was mushy as hell, way too soft for me. It actually felt as if I were down grading lol I also got to test drive an automatic sport packaged Z and that felt way cleaner and more powerful than the nismo. :ugh2: So for now i'm going to stick with my modded up 09 Z :driving:
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Baer383 01-11-2013 09:53 PM
I had a 2010 sport/touring 7at and it was a nice car but now I have a 2013 Nismo and this car has been everything I need in a car,plus I put the same super charger on this car that I had on the 2010 and my Nismo made 66 rwhp more.

It's pretty hard not to like a Nismo :tup:

SS_Firehawk 01-11-2013 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2106452)
I had a 2010 sport/touring 7at and it was a nice car but now I have a 2013 Nismo and this car has been everything I need in a car,plus I put the same super charger on this car that I had on the 2010 and my Nismo made 66 rwhp more.

It's pretty hard not to like a Nismo :tup:
Still amazed by the numbers your pumping out with the 1.5. Best change they did to the Nismo were changing the color of the rims, it looks so much better on every color.

FairladyZ 01-11-2013 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2106500)
Still amazed by the numbers your pumping out with the 1.5. Best change they did to the Nismo were changing the color of the rims, it looks so much better on every color.
yup...

this actually made me like the nismo.

The darker rims set it off so nice.

Baer383 01-11-2013 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2106500)
Still amazed by the numbers your pumping out with the 1.5. Best change they did to the Nismo were changing the color of the rims, it looks so much better on every color.
The numbers are only good till you put yours up.

SS_Firehawk 01-11-2013 10:56 PM
Considering I think my car makes the lowest WHP of any full bolt on and tuned 370Z I've ever seen... I'm not holding my breath haha. My tq is generally 10lbft off from everyone else making similar power.

Baer383 01-11-2013 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2106561)
Considering I think my car makes the lowest WHP of any full bolt on and tuned 370Z I've ever seen... I'm not holding my breath haha. My tq is generally 10lbft off from everyone else making similar power.
Yeah but the twins will make your car come to life:tup:.

forza370z 01-12-2013 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2105621)
more like disconnected to the clutch.

take it out and see. it's an easy 2min job. all you need is 2 functional hands, one needle nosed pliers, and maybe a flashlight.
Okay thanks. I will serch it and try it for myself.


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