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drdre8424 07-10-2009 09:33 PM

the Nismo is Tight!!!
 
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..but is it really worth all the extra $$ for 18 xtra hp, a different spoiler, and rear bumper?

GMZ 07-10-2009 09:36 PM

Not to me it aint

6MT 07-10-2009 09:47 PM

Darn right it isn't!!:iagree::iagree::iagree:


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Originally Posted by drdre8424 (Post 111703)
..but is it really worth all the extra $$ for 18 xtra hp, a different spoiler, and rear bumper?


alexanderb 07-10-2009 09:52 PM

it also has Nismo suspension though...it's for a different market. It's for people that plan to track regularly. Although if it was really designed for the track then why leave out the oil cooler???

I personally did not get it because I like my creature comforts like leather, nav etc...

zman1910 07-10-2009 10:33 PM

The car is not designed for track purposes......it's just suppose to look like it is.

initialgemini 07-10-2009 10:38 PM

Personally, I wouldn't buy it because I plan on modding the car down the line. But if you're someone who doesn't really want to touch the car, and just wants something great out of the box, then I can see how it would be "worth" it.

NIZMOZ 07-10-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zman1910 (Post 111743)
The car is not designed for track purposes......it's just suppose to look like it is.

:rolleyes:

I hope you are kidding. As it was designed for the track by Autech.

Tim 07-10-2009 10:58 PM

so you get the nismo seats, the authentication, nismo badges, wheels, bumpers sides and spoiler. with an h pipe instead of y and a red cover and +18 hp

on a track the nismo fails to improve track times and a few times it's slower by 0.1 seconds on the 0-30/60/75/100 and also the 1/4 mile

the suspension is done up a lot better

the car is worth getting for probably: showing off, fact that it is a nismo, and for an enthusiast
but not worth if you want a car to mod since you can just mod the non-nismos

the only thing you get out of the car is that it is the nismo trim

its like buying a touring instead of base, just for the features (thats how i'd put it)
but instead of "intelligent" features you get "physical features" with a tad of better handling

the performance part wont make much of a difference since it is heavier


-back to your question: is it worth it?
i would say it is worth as much as its worth buying a 370 that's base or touring or with sport for their prices. it's just a different trim like the roadster.
so i'm not saying yes or no, it is what it is, buy it if you like pass if not.

i like the stock body look so i will be buying a non-nismo myself

hope this helps :icon17:

KillerBee370 07-10-2009 11:47 PM

Take a look at my sig. Next week I'll add to that with stainless brake lines and more suspension parts.

Is the Nismo worth it? Not when I see what's sitting in my driveway. :)

StLRedrider 07-10-2009 11:49 PM

Nice looking, i'm happy with what i got.

RCZ 07-11-2009 12:39 AM

Just like before, not worth it. Although the body parts look pretty.

SMJane_Again 07-11-2009 07:12 PM

Huh. The Nismo is supposed to be for the track, yet there is no oil cooler... on a platform that people have already complained has oil overheating issues. And you're spending 7 grand more than a Base/Sport (probably less negotiation room since it's a 'limited edition'), for as already stated, some body bits, some badging, and 18bhp. Wow.

To paraphrase James May 'What you have here is a car dressed up with the tinsel of high performance.'

Gotta say, if I was doing a Nismo, I would've done this for 7 grand (and of course Nissan gets all their stuff at cost or lower, so this is do-able): real limited slippy diff (Quaife anyone??), good sport bucket seats (hell, Nissan owns Renault and Renault throws Recaros in their Megane and Clio high performance models, so not THAT far-fetched), suspension, brakes (even just up-rated pads/rotors/fluid), an OIL COOLER, and a body kit... maybe a carbon hood a la the Megane R.26R. An exhaust. Painted wheels for some differentiation. And a couple of Nismo badges. If there's time.

Anyone else think about how they'd do up a Nismo Z?

S.

alexanderb 07-11-2009 07:22 PM

Doesn't anyone think the Nismo looks too much like the 350? Personally, I like the fangs on the 370... hehehe

NIZMOZ 07-11-2009 08:05 PM

Dunno about the 370z NISMO but the 350Z NISMO was a remarkable improvement especially on the track.

Remember the car is not designed for 1/4 it is designed for Road Courses and that is where the NISMO shines.

Of course from the last two years with the NISMO 350Z, people who don't own and talk like this are just jealous and don't know anything about it because they have never driven or been in one to actually see how good they handle.

But then again mine has seam welds and the 370z didn't get those. When I drove the 370z NISMO I felt it to be softer than mine and felt like it wouldn't handle as good. So is it worth it on the 370z, probably not, but it was on the 350z.

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Originally Posted by Tim (Post 111760)
so you get the nismo seats, the authentication, nismo badges, wheels, bumpers sides and spoiler. with an h pipe instead of y and a red cover and +18 hp

on a track the nismo fails to improve track times and a few times it's slower by 0.1 seconds on the 0-30/60/75/100 and also the 1/4 mile

the suspension is done up a lot better

the car is worth getting for probably: showing off, fact that it is a nismo, and for an enthusiast
but not worth if you want a car to mod since you can just mod the non-nismos

the only thing you get out of the car is that it is the nismo trim

its like buying a touring instead of base, just for the features (thats how i'd put it)
but instead of "intelligent" features you get "physical features" with a tad of better handling

the performance part wont make much of a difference since it is heavier


-back to your question: is it worth it?
i would say it is worth as much as its worth buying a 370 that's base or touring or with sport for their prices. it's just a different trim like the roadster.
so i'm not saying yes or no, it is what it is, buy it if you like pass if not.

i like the stock body look so i will be buying a non-nismo myself

hope this helps :icon17:


FricFrac 07-11-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zman1910 (Post 111743)
The car is not designed for track purposes......it's just suppose to look like it is.

...and that's based on your professional opinion having driven both on the track right? Personally I don't like the front bumper both in looks and the additional length. I don't think its the best value and I'd rather do my own upgrades however its not fair to say its not designed for the track as its upgrades are quite obviously designed for better track times....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr4nOickyDo

RCZ 07-11-2009 08:52 PM

Marketing...

I think it poses a bit of a conundrum. Its a sportier version of a sports car. It gets a rougher ride and more aggressive styling, but only slightly more so. This kind of thing doesn't make much sense to me sometimes. If you are going to make a racier version of a car, then make it. Like someone said..better seats, less weight, stickier rubber, better suspension, etc. It feels like they just change a few tidbits and give it a badge and then it sells more. Where I come from, that's called marketing, not a track focused version. Take BMW's M division and Merc's AMG... thats what Nismo should be like. Like a Scuderia, like a Black Series... thats what the Nismo 370Z should be like.


Thats not to say I wouldnt take the Nismo if I had the choice again, but I don't feel as bad about the decision as they should have made me feel.

Tim 07-12-2009 12:31 PM

NISMO is NOT for track or anything performance based:

IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring | Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

here is where a touring model out performs a nismo and in most cases you find the nismo equal or performing very slightly better, dont let it fool you.

i've looked so much into this whether i want a nismo or base model, here is my old thread before i made up my mind: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...-body-kit.html

Lug 07-12-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 112480)
NISMO is NOT for track or anything performance based:

IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring | Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

here is where a touring model out performs a nismo and in most cases you find the nismo equal or performing very slightly better, dont let it fool you.

i've looked so much into this whether i want a nismo or base model, here is my old thread before i made up my mind: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...-body-kit.html

Car isn't broken in yet ( about 1000 miles on the OD) and the last people I trust for perfomance driving is Edmunds. They consistantly get worse performance than average out of every car they test. The real sin here is no oil cooler. Nissan did significantly stiffen the car and add HP that should easily make up for slight weight gain. I don't see how the NISMO, given it's upgrades, could do so bad on something as simple as a skid pad test. Others are pulling .98's and .99's while Edmonds got a .91. That doesn't even match a 350Z. Something is definately not kosher with this test or that particular car. I'm betting much better results in the future.

Greg 07-12-2009 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 112492)
Car isn't broken in yet ( about 1000 miles on the OD) and the last people I trust for perfomance driving is Edmunds. They consistantly get worse performance than average out of every car they test. The real sin here is no oil cooler. Nissan did significantly stiffen the car and add HP that should easily make up for slight weight gain. I don't see how the NISMO, given it's upgrades, could do so bad on something as simple as a skid pad test. Others are pulling .98's and .99's while Edmonds got a .91. That doesn't even match a 350Z. Something is definately not kosher with this test or that particular car. I'm betting much better results in the future.

+1

People shouldnt base anything and everything on a single magazine(online or print) review. ;)

NIZMOZ 07-12-2009 09:36 PM

Well guess the 370z NISMO fails compared to mine. Sad to see that. I knew when I drove it, it felt like it wasn't as good.

Just to compare, the 07 NISMO had better numbers.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121814

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim (Post 112480)
NISMO is NOT for track or anything performance based:

IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring | Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

here is where a touring model out performs a nismo and in most cases you find the nismo equal or performing very slightly better, dont let it fool you.

i've looked so much into this whether i want a nismo or base model, here is my old thread before i made up my mind: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-p...-body-kit.html


Tim 07-13-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg (Post 112515)
+1

People shouldnt base anything and everything on a single magazine(online or print) review. ;)

i've looked at tons of reviews almost all AK has posted, i was just giving an example of where/when the nismo slipped up on one comparo.

besides if it is or isn't better in anything than the touring model the differences all show that there is no significant difference like you would when buying a civic ex vs a civic si (just an example, but alos a 2.5k price difference)

xfrgtr 07-13-2009 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 112492)
Car isn't broken in yet ( about 1000 miles on the OD) and the last people I trust for perfomance driving is Edmunds. They consistantly get worse performance than average out of every car they test. The real sin here is no oil cooler. Nissan did significantly stiffen the car and add HP that should easily make up for slight weight gain. I don't see how the NISMO, given it's upgrades, could do so bad on something as simple as a skid pad test. Others are pulling .98's and .99's while Edmonds got a .91. That doesn't even match a 350Z. Something is definately not kosher with this test or that particular car. I'm betting much better results in the future.

Exactly


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