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kannibul 07-02-2009 10:54 AM

Note to self - after leaving car wash...
 
Let the soap and other crap leave the tires before gassing it a bit with the TRS turned off - lol...

LOL

I managed to kick the rear end out to a 45 (what I was aiming for), then it swung it back hard 90 degress to the other way (apparently input from the steering wheel is a lot more than what I'm used to), before it grabbed and launched me straight for the curb!

Nothing happened, but if it weren't for my VERY quick reflexes and having had a ton of experience with RWD cars and icy roads...lol

Lesson learned!




THis reminded me of another "pucker-factor" experience - a local gas station has an auto-washer attached that always drains down across the enterace. I was on my bike with the lady on back, getting gas, and I pulled in through that enterance. When my back tire came around again, it lost traction and skipped over about 4"! To be honest, I'm surprised I didn't lose it, but, I guess my reflexes saved our butts that time too - lol...

I don't go to that gas station much now - if I do, it's the other entrance that I use! :)

wstar 07-02-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 104770)
Let the soap and other crap leave the tires before gassing it a bit with the TRS turned off - lol...

Nah, that's the best part of washing the car: burning off the leftover water/soap on the rear tires when launching out onto the street. You just gotta be ready for it, and nimble with the gas and the steering wheel :)

RCZ 07-02-2009 11:30 AM

Alright what? You over-corrected a slide almost into an effin curve and then you say you have "VERY quick reflexes and having had a ton of experience with RWD cars" and then you say lesson learned.

Yeah sounds like a LOT of experience. I hope you realize that makes no sense. Maybe you should drive with the TC on.... unless your car is graphite cause I need a new front bumper and sideskirts.

kannibul 07-02-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 104787)
Alright what? You over-corrected a slide almost into an effin curve and then you say you have "VERY quick reflexes and having had a ton of experience with RWD cars" and then you say lesson learned.

Yeah sounds like a LOT of experience. I hope you realize that makes no sense. Maybe you should drive with the TC on.... unless your car is graphite cause I need a new front bumper and sideskirts.

Quick reflexes kept me from doing a 180+ or ending up nose-first in a curb...

I was making a left turn across a 3 lane road (center turn lane), rear end swung out further than I anticipated (wasn't expecting it to lose traction to that extent), I attempted to turn it more into a power-slide to pull through it - it didn't react so I continued putting more right-turn on the wheel until it did (which is where I apparently over-corrected) and it snapped the rear end back to the left faster than I could have imagined...

I am not experienced with locking diffs, or as tight of steering as the Z...or the weight balance of the Z. So, yeah, on one hand, I am not that experienced, but on the other, I know what to do and how to compensate.

General experience vs "Z" experience...

Thanks for reading! :gtfo2:

RCZ 07-02-2009 11:44 AM

Wait.... so you overcorrected a slide at like 8MPH then?

No offense to you, but this is why you should keep the TC on instead of trying to be a cool guy. Do an accident avoidance course and a couple of driving courses where they teach you how to not do what you did. Until then, stop posting about your near accidents and your super-skills because you WILL get flamed.

Just get a chance to learn the car before you don't have a car to learn on anymore.

Thanks for posting some entertainment.

kannibul 07-02-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 104802)
Wait.... so you overcorrected a slide at like 8MPH then?

No offense to you, but this is why you should keep the TC on instead of trying to be a cool guy. Do an accident avoidance course and a couple of driving courses where they teach you how to not do what you did. Until then, stop posting about your near accidents and your super-skills because you WILL get flamed.

Just get a chance to learn the car before you don't have a car to learn on anymore.

Thanks for posting some entertainment.

What, is it your personal responsibility on the internet to flame people you view as "l3ss sup3r $kiLl3d" than you?

Get over yourself.

xiven 07-02-2009 12:14 PM

:drama:

wstar 07-02-2009 12:17 PM

I kinda thought the same thing as RCZ, I'm just not so, uhhh, direct about it :) But now that it's out there... extreme over-corrections like that is a sign that you need to learn how to control the car :)

kannibul 07-02-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 104844)
I kinda thought the same thing as RCZ, I'm just not so, uhhh, direct about it :) But now that it's out there... extreme over-corrections like that is a sign that you need to learn how to control the car :)

As with anything, you don't know your limits until you exceed them.

Apparently, I found a limit relating to the amount of available traction, and my expectations of what the input I was doing with the car, and the output it gave me.

"Lesson Learned"

wstar 07-02-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 104861)
As with anything, you don't know your limits until you exceed them.

Apparently, I found a limit relating to the amount of available traction, and my expectations of what the input I was doing with the car, and the output it gave me.

"Lesson Learned"

Yeah, there was a bit of learning curve for me with this car as well. I came from a much more oversteer-happy car than this one, so in smoother curves I had to learn to actually use the steering wheel more than the throttle to push the car around. On the flipside, when trying to push through quick sharp sliding oversteer corners (or U-turns), I have to give the Z a lot more gas to get the job done. I'm pretty comfortable with handling my Z now, but I've had 7K miles to figure it out already :)

xiven 07-02-2009 12:41 PM

is the turning radius pretty good when doing u-turns?

thats one thing i hate about my eclipse. i have to swing wide like a big truck to make the turn and pray i don't hit the curb.:shakes head:

m4a1mustang 07-02-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiven (Post 104875)
is the turning radius pretty good when doing u-turns?

thats one thing i hate about my eclipse. i have to swing wide like a big truck to make the turn and pray i don't hit the curb.:shakes head:

RWD. Turning radius is as tight as you want it to be. :D

kannibul 07-02-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 104869)
Yeah, there was a bit of learning curve for me with this car as well. I came from a much more oversteer-happy car than this one, so in smoother curves I had to learn to actually use the steering wheel more than the throttle to push the car around. On the flipside, when trying to push through quick sharp sliding oversteer corners (or U-turns), I have to give the Z a lot more gas to get the job done. I'm pretty comfortable with handling my Z now, but I've had 7K miles to figure it out already :)

I can easily say this car handles a LOT differently than other vehicles I've owned - none of them had a locking diff, so I could break one wheel loose and drag the other in a fishtail.

With this, it's more like the rear of the car is on a huge ball bearing. That combined with the incredibly tight turning radius...

I think what threw me a bit too was that the tires bit down unexpectedly too - but, hey, I won't know. If I do it again, I have more knowledge about how the car reacts to driver input now than I did before last night.

xiven 07-02-2009 12:51 PM

i imagine so if i want to whip it around

m4a1mustang 07-02-2009 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiven (Post 104891)
i imagine so if i want to whip it around

It's not as good as the Nissan Cube but it's close.


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