On that note, I think I understand(kinda) what the reviewer was talking about. Although, I never accidently open the center console while shifting. BUT I do find it's annoying when I resting my right arm on the center console. It often opens it! It's a poor design I have to admit it. 370z is not a gangster lean-friendly car.:icon17:

Today here and now the Z is the best in its class. Can you get faster straight line performance for the money, sure. But this car is the total package. Sure the interior can benefit from richer appointments, but are these essential for what this car is? IMO, no. The Z outperforms or is on par with cars much higher in cost, and it is much more than the Gen, 86, and the domestics. And its sexy as hell. It's not because I have one...its why I got one. So what's next? Nissan says performance...a better Nismo and an RS model. Will it happen? Your guess is as good as mine...but at least they're speaking my language. And that's very promising!http://img.tapatalk.com/4cad6968-0164-85fa.jpghttps://m.facebook.com/?refsrc=http%...user=606345512

didnt aim to offend anyone here, just my own experience with my Z i find it very hard to open up that center console accidentally unless i am full on leaning on the thing, as for features i'm pretty sure nissan is working on upgrading the features across their entire line up as evidenced by the new 2013 altima which now comes standard with blue tooth even on the base models, wouldnt be suprised to see the next Z get a few upgrades in that area as well. honestly though as mentioned by others already i have no interest in a whole bunch of upgraded stereo equipment and electronics in a sports car. while it is nice to have the option of having that i dont think it should make or break the deal as the reviewer suggests by pointing to other comparable cars that have those options as standard. heck i would bet that is the reason why the gen coupes are heavier than the Z's is because of all that extra electronics that they bundle along with them as standard. in any case its just my opinion by itself and nissan will ultimately do what it thinks the consumers want which is fine by me...i just hope they still make a base+sport model on the next generation of the Z's that has as little electronics as possible.

No worries you didn't offend me in the slightest, and the rare times when it does pop open it's always on the 3 - 4 shift so I know it's due to my arm placement in relation to my driving position....not something I can really fault Nissan for. I totally understand the desire for a pure sports car that doesn't have an inflated price due to extra gizmos that have little to do with the driving experience. That's why I bought a base+sport.

OTOH the price has crept up a bit over the years without adding significant changes to really justify the added premium. In that regard I think the Motor Trend article does have a valid point, but even still...I wouldn't trade my Z for any of those other cars mentioned.

The author seems to be critical without saying anything untrue. Is the glass half full or half empty. In this case, half empty.

I don't recall the lack of oil cooler being mentioned either. So he could have been more critical. on the plus side ...These shortcomings are redeemed somewhat once the Z is given room to gallop.

All the comments about the interior being outdated and the lack of features are easily solved by getting the touring package.

I've driven a 2013 Altima and the improvements they've made on the interior are amazing! I can't wait to see what they do with the interior of the next Z, it should look even better.

They come with oil coolers now. :tup:

Touring + Sport FTW!!! Navi is...a coin flip imo. I actually like my cubby, good place to put my wallet when I am driving.

The cubby is the perfect place to put your EZ Pass if you don't want to stick it on your windshield :tup:

i second that!

the fact that he is comparing 2013 cars to a car that hasn't changed significantly since it's intro in 2009 says a lot. aside from it's performance, the Z is just gorgeous. Plus, you don't see many of them compared to Camaros and Mustangs.

He was comparing it to the slow mustang and camaro btw.

Anyways the whole brz/frs love is just because it's new. Go dig up some reviews of the 2009 Z, everyone loved the car back then. It's mostly nissan's fault for not updating the platform enough to justify the price. If subaru is smart and makes a sti brz expect the fanboyism to continue

I am now upset with myself for not thinking of this... :(

Well at least you have the idea now :tup: