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Mikes350z 08-28-2012 07:21 PM

Incoming Changes for 370, Nismo, RS platform
 
Hey everyone

Interesting article Nissan posted to their facebook discussing 15% power bumps for the Nismo version, the Z and a new RS platform across the board... Sorry if this is a repost. Short article worth a look.


Nissan working on high-performance Nismo, RS models

Telephone 08-28-2012 07:27 PM

I'll believe it when I see it.

Reaper42 08-28-2012 07:33 PM

Nissan performance just officially posted this on their facebook account today and it has been reported by all major automotive news reporters....its happening

diddy535 08-28-2012 07:50 PM

Is facebook the new source?

sillyoldtayo 08-28-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 1891209)
Is facebook the new source?

i was thinking the same thing:ugh2:

Felix 808 08-28-2012 08:33 PM

The real question is will they be available to the US? No matter, I already love the car I have ;)

nmjaxx9 08-28-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1891153)
I'll believe it when I see it.

X2

DarkJak 08-28-2012 08:53 PM

15% would be a 50 hp bump. I'm guessing they'd be achieving it by adding DI. When Hyundai did that to the Genesis coupe, it produced an additional 45-ish hp. 380 hp Z sounds sexy to me.

bdavis89 08-28-2012 08:57 PM

Mentions 15% bump to the nismo z and a new rs version. The normal 370z isn't getting the bump from what I read in the auto blog article..

chewy08753 08-28-2012 09:10 PM

From what I'm reading the nismo they are referring to is the juke, leaf and GTR ! They only talk about a 370z rs

sonic370 08-28-2012 09:12 PM

the only thing i take from that article is a wild guess.
the juke is already a turbo even if it is a 4cyl.
the model z that one day replaces the 370 is a 75/25 chance
of being a turbo.. it could make it totally different from the mustang, camaro
etc. and could bump up the sales....

i'm betting no way it will be an 8 cyl. most new cars are going towards souped
up 6's and imho nissan has just about wore out all it can get out of the VQ.

ImportConvert 08-28-2012 09:51 PM

When companies actually start doing things like this, it means they are about to kill the current chassis in a couple of years or less, and offer a new one. Similar to the new 5.0 Coyote engine here at the end of the S197 platform's life-cycle, and the LS7 powered C6 'vert. It's a last carrot to buy an aging platform. Personally, I am interested in the 390Z or whatever comes next. There are things I think need to change about the 370Z that this won't address.

Personally, I would like...


slightly longer wheelbase
better weight distribution (more neutral. My car is 56/44, and it shows. Not bad, but it's not my Z06.)
Less "give" in the steering response. It's just not very crisp. The car wallows when you give quicker inputs. Front suspension feels sloppy and has a lot of rebound.
Way better rebound control

forza370z 08-28-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chewy08753 (Post 1891359)
From what I'm reading the nismo they are referring to is the juke, leaf and GTR ! They only talk about a 370z rs

Yeah, they only talked about the Juke, Leaf and GTR. I don't see 370z Nismo will get the 15% power bump anytime soon as the 13 Nismo is out already. I am only interested to see what's the next gen Z is going to look like.

JungleZ 08-28-2012 10:43 PM

not a solid source in my opinion, nothing super confirmed at all yet.

Srenity 08-28-2012 11:05 PM

Here is what they are saying:

Nissan plans to offer Nismo models more predomently through the line up so as to make it "like AMG". The first new Nismo models will be the Juke, and Leaf. The 15% bump in power is not related to the current power of the 370z or the Nismo Z, it is referring to the baseline power of that particular car. So for example if the standard juke makes 200 HP then the Nismo Juke would make approx 230 HP and so forth. The 15% is simply a general range of added power for getting the sportier version of the car AKA the Nismo version.

The way they wrote the article with a random qoute not placed in context very well makes it a bit difficult to interprut but really it should be pretty clear if you re-read it.

No real Z new's here.

JungleZ 08-28-2012 11:15 PM

dam that would suck to get smoked by like a Nismo Rogue R or something. I think the Nismo Frontier should have supercharger options...

frost 08-28-2012 11:18 PM

"The Nismo Juke will be the first of these models to arrive early next year. It will boast a unique body kit, as well as 18-inch wheels and bright red side view mirrors. Underhood, the 1.6-liter mill will be massaged to produce 215 horsepower – an increase of 28 hp."

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...72-lookout.png

forza370z 08-28-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 1891602)
dam that would suck to get smoked by like a Nismo Rogue R or something. I think the Nismo Frontier should have supercharger options...

:icon18::icon18::icon18:

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 1891606)
"The Nismo Juke will be the first of these models to arrive early next year. It will boast a unique body kit, as well as 18-inch wheels and bright red side view mirrors. Underhood, the 1.6-liter mill will be massaged to produce 215 horsepower – an increase of 28 hp."

http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...72-lookout.png

Oh good, at least I know I won't be smoked by a Juke Nismo on the street by the end of next year!:tup:

Mikes350z 08-29-2012 06:55 AM

Actually a closer read of the article states the Nismo version will be on multiple models and will receive a 15% power increase.

" Nismo versions will get a power hike of 15 percent, but the focus will be on distinctive styling. The Nismo Juke will be the first of these models to arrive early next year."

Stating Nismo versions will get the bump starting this year a la 2013 Juke then going from there.

Also for those who said no 370Z news

" If you have the insatiable need for speed, Nissan will be unleashing an RS range of models, boasting track-focused performance...It was also noted that there would be RS versions of the GT-R and 370Z."

So before the model line changes the RS versions of the 370Z and GT-R will be unleashed which means prior to 2016 when the model line will run its normal 7 year shelf life.

Facebook is actually the new source for certain types of News. This was posted by Nissan Performance USA the performance branch of Nissan USA and has quotes in it from Nissans Executive VP of PLANNING so yes its a good source.

DCNISMO 08-29-2012 07:41 AM

RS version of the Z will no doubt be in the 50K+ or more range, which puts it out of the peak demographic they sell in. At that price point, most guys aged 25-35 ish something with a family won't or can't buy one. I'm almost 50 and could pay that amount, but I won't for a toy that depreciates so fast.

Mikes350z 08-29-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 1891846)
RS version of the Z will no doubt be in the 50K+ or more range, which puts it out of the peak demographic they sell in. At that price point, most guys aged 25-35 ish something with a family won't or can't buy one. I'm almost 50 and could pay that amount, but I won't for a toy that depreciates so fast.

Good point and I agree if it does go into that price point it will lose a good portion of its demographic but if they still offer the 370Z and then a more advanced Nismo model and a full blown RS then they will cover their bases. RS maybe for people who want GTR but cant afford one or cant justify $90-110K

Cuban Z 08-29-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 1891209)
Is facebook the new source?

May seem strange, but our company (publically traded, significant in size) drop or share news on our Facebook page often. If Nissan put it on their page (I haven't seen the FB post) then I'm inclined to think there's something to it.

cheshirecat 08-29-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cuban Z (Post 1891998)
May seem strange, but our company (publically traded, significant in size) drop or share news on our Facebook page often. If Nissan put it on their page (I haven't seen the FB post) then I'm inclined to think there's something to it.

It's pretty obvious at this point that the news is real- otherwise Nissan USA wouldn't be putting it on their official feed.

I'm personally hoping to see the RS go for under 50k.

Cuban Z 08-29-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 1892016)
It's pretty obvious at this point that the news is real- otherwise Nissan USA wouldn't be putting it on their official feed.

I'm personally hoping to see the RS go for under 50k.

Agreed. Here's the post. http://img.tapatalk.com/4cad6968-2e0f-d87a.jpg

ZMan8 08-29-2012 10:00 AM

These company Facebook pages, twitter accounts, etc. Are created and managed by the respective companies. Therefore anything put on there can be taken as real, valid info.

I'm interested to see if this Time around the US will get the rs model.

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Zenki370 08-29-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikes350z (Post 1891971)
Good point and I agree if it does go into that price point it will lose a good portion of its demographic but if they still offer the 370Z and then a more advanced Nismo model and a full blown RS then they will cover their bases. RS maybe for people who want GTR but cant afford one or cant justify $90-110K

The RS will still sell due to the people who wanted a manual but cant get one on the GTR.

ZKraken22 08-29-2012 11:14 AM

Why are some of you saying no real Z news? Yea obviously we already have a nismo
model. So nothing new for the Z this year. Whats good news is we are getting a RS model. It's on nissan's facebook. straight from the horses mouth! Yea the price of the 370z nismo rs is gonna be expensive. 50k+ for a Z! But the good news is a 15% bump in HP (which is 50+) If a Z could have Carrera 4s power and perform boss 302 numbers then is the price justified?

Sibze 08-29-2012 11:50 AM

A nismo GTR would be cool

DCNISMO 08-29-2012 12:40 PM

Quote:

If a Z could have Carrera 4s power and perform boss 302 numbers then is the price justified?
They could add a supercharger to the Z and maybe keep it at 50K. But if you go TT then forget it, that's going to be well above 50K. The Taurus SHO is an example, its a TT inter-cooled car from the factory, that actually performs pretty dam well. But it sits four people and an older..ahh Mature man, can justify that to the wifey. Its a 50K or so car. At that price point, your going against the Audi TTS that has AWD for a toy car.

cheshirecat 08-30-2012 09:46 AM

IMO, Nissan will be looking toward lighter weight for better performance and a lower-liter forced-induction setup for better fuel economy.

I don't see high horsepower numbers beyond an interim DI-equipped 370z as much as a smaller and lighter chassis for future Z's.

This has basically been all but confirmed by Nissan... but those people who are looking for a horsepower war with Detroit from Nissan are setting themselves up for disappointment.

sonic370 08-30-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat (Post 1893746)
IMO, Nissan will be looking toward lighter weight for better performance and a lower-liter forced-induction setup for better fuel economy.

I don't see high horsepower numbers beyond an interim DI-equipped 370z as much as a smaller and lighter chassis for future Z's.

This has basically been all but confirmed by Nissan... but those people who are looking for a horsepower war with Detroit from Nissan are setting themselves up for disappointment.

i had to admit it be you are probably right. the 370 will never have a v8 in it.
wouldn't fit anyway. but they need to get the car lighter like you said. and at the same time the next version needs at least 375hp. imo that would just be enough hp to put it bad xss land.

TypeOne 08-31-2012 09:11 AM

Rofl


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