For what its worth, that photo is a pretty well known joke from South Park. I would be very shocked if he was posting it as a racist statement, more of a tongue in cheek comment about the original post.

Sorry, fixed! I don't know why it didn't link anymore. It was fine before I left work. Take a look at my post again :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...spellcheck.jpg

Exactly.

Not every thing has to be a racist bash fest... and the answer is "Naggers" by the way... you know, people who annoy you?

Maybe you're the racist for thinking it was something else? :rolleyes:

whatevers.. southpark is fkn funny

If you wanted the fastest car on the road, you bought the wrong one.

says the guy who said he did 130 on the street before to test brakes :bowrofl:

You win my internets today!

If you think racist you might be racist!

I said that?

I must have been drunk. :ugh2::roflpuke2:

Probably and yes. :rofl2:

They're everywhere.

I just searched my post history, I remember that now!

You got me, I'm busted! :bowrofl:

Yeah, we were talking about brakes and I said (sarcastically) that they're a HUGE problem on the street when you have to haul the car down from 130 MPH a dozen times in a row.

maybe if you changed your avatar I wouldn't have remebered. :stirthepot:

Here is my take on this topic. There is no denying that the STI and Evo are fast and very good handling vehicles. As a matter of fact I test drove them both before making the decision to buy my 370Z. When comparing all three, I felt the 370Z edged them both in all around performance.

However, what you're about to read was the big deal breaker for me not buying the STI or Evo. After test driving the Evo and walking out of the showroom with my son, he pointed to an elderly lady (around 70-80) and said "Dad! ... look, that old lady just purchased the car we drove." I had to explain to him that the older lady purchased a Lancer not an Evo. He said "No ... I remember it read Lancer on the back of the car we drove." And that's when it dawned on me ... "No way in hell am I buying a suped-up four door granny car. The same goes for the STI.

I wanted a two seater sports car and nothing else ... period. When you compare the styling/looks of the Z to the STI or Evo, they just don't compare. The Z looks freaking awesome.

So ask yourself this question. Do you want a suped-up four door granny car, or the three year in a row DSPORT Magazine sports car of the year.*

The choice is pretty simple! :happydance:

This is too funny of a thread...

Is an STI a Sexually Transmitted Infection ?

Davey, even your cat is in shock....How did the brakes work ?

From Bergen County, then yes.
Your Z would get crushed by most Sti's due to the fact that none of them are stock.
Most of them are Stage II meaning that they would walk you.
Unless you build your motor or if you have more money, go turbo!
I always get teased by evo and sti owners as well.
But the difference is driving a Sports Coupe vs a sedan w/ turbo.
I love my Z a lot and it's not always about who can go faster in a straight line.
Meet me at the track! :)

Sorry, I don't watch south park anymore and missed that episode I guess???. But if you don't watch south park and see that. It just seemed over the top. But my bad.

Ha and yeah I am racist, I hate all races equally. Lol

thats all matter of opinion. When i owned a Cobalt SS/SC, my girlfriend and I went to look at a 2008 EvoX. The big turn off for me was it had 4 doors. I wanted a coupe 2 door. Then traded the Cobalt in for a 370z, then traded that in for my SRT-10. Then traded the SRT-10 in for my 2011 EvoX. I recently blew the engine in my evo and while im rebuilding it i picked up a 03 cavalier for $600. God damn it pisses me off not having 4 doors. It's such a pain in the *** having to either put my seats forward for someone to sit in the back or put **** in the trunk instead of just tossing it in the back seats.

As for the old granny 4 door car. Well this old granny car was picking on and beating up a 09 Viper ACR, 05 Viper (intake, headers, mid pipe, exhaust, throttle body and tune), 05 Corvette at the track. The only one in my run group that was a challange was a STi. Me and the driver of the STI were fighting for second place all day and only a tenth of a second between our lap times.

EvoX Time Attack #1 - YouTube

423hp EvoX GSR vs. 05 Viper - Time Attack - YouTube

imo, the EvoX is better then the 370z, and i've owned both and tracked both. The EvoX is better on and off the truck, end of story...lol.

Must have been raining.

How many miles before that happen?

:iagree:

Seriously?

I'm sure you can come up with more important things in your life to be concerned about if you put a little thought into it.

Nope, dry as a bone. Think it was about 25*C outside that day.

20,100km. Lets just say im not going with the same tuner...

Sti's and Evo's with stock turbos move like they are in molasses in higher gears. Boost is fun when it kicks in but how often are you cruising in third or mid 4th anyway. My buddy has a 2004 STi making 275whp while my Z in peak form was putting close to 310-320whp, it wasn't even close.

Yeah, that was kind of a joke, you know, AWD = pray for rain.

I will say this, though, your results at an event like that vs. cars running on street tires with who knows who driving them or how hard they are pushing aren't really a valid measurement of anything other than how much your own driving improved over the course of several events. :tiphat:

I owned an EVO too, it is a toss up with the Z stock to stock and that is simply because the EVO comes with better tires stock. EVO has shorter gearings and more torque, but it lacks the straight line speed and balance.

Do you really think your car is faster than a Viper? You might be faster, but not the car.

Also I have a better chance of seeing a chupacabra than a stock evo anyway, most have intake/exhaust and the whole works with it.

now which car is supposed to be faster than a viper????

:bs:

not a stock EVO

The honda civic rules all!

Word.

Im trading my Z now for a civic eco. :nutswinger:

Why are you annoyed. You should be smug like me that you are driving an attractive car instead of an ugly *** EVO or STI, regardless of those car's 1/4 mile times.

Nope...

I own a 2010 wrx which has the 265 hp. And have test driven an STI and a 370z. I fell in love with the 370z when I test drove it, but from the short amount of time I drove it, I can say that the WRX and STI definitely felt quicker to highway speeds than the Z. Granted that the Z I test drove was a brand new 2012 and I didnt go past 4k rpm, but even with me not going past 4k rpm my wrx "feels" quicker. But then again a turbo cooper S might feel quicker in first than several NA cars.

To make everyone happy, ill compair my EvoX vs my 370z that i had at the same track, stock for stock. Yes the Evo is AWD so ill leave out how it handled around turns. First of all the best thing about the evo...it doesnt over heat!!. We would do 7 laps at the track, lap 4 with the 370z i would go into limp mode...enough said on that.

Brakes.... i can come into a turn a hell of alot faster and brake later (but yet still hit the apex) with the Evo. The 370z i had no confidence in the brakes at all.

The only part that the 370z beat the Evo on the track imo was straight line. Which doesnt mean ****, hence why i beat 2 vipers that would pull away from me on the rear stretch but i would quickly catch up and pass with braking later and taking turns faster.

I'm not downing the 370z by any means. But imo the EvoX is better then 370z on and off the track. For off the track it has less blind spots then the Z, the clutch engagements are alot smoother, it has 4 doors and alot more space.

You sure about that? On the Evo forums you make it sound like the 370z is the worst sports car ever made.

You traded in a srt-10 for an evo????? :facepalm:

Unless the EVO X is a world better than a the EVO IX, I am not sure if my datalogger agrees with you.

http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/5...voviii370z.jpg

Red = EVO IV stock with Ferrodo pads & OE tires; Blue = 370z stock with pads & RE11.

You are right I need an oil cooler to do track days, but my car is still cheaper than the EVO new vs new with the oil cooler.

The Z's brakes are bigger than the EVO and it is lighter, how can an EVO stop better? I understand if you had the OEM tires since they are worse than the EVO stock.

Your car doesn't handle better than a Viper (well assuming it has decent tires). The other driver was simply driving too slow. You really should be proud of yourself, not the car. The last GT-R i saw at the track only ran 1.5 sec slower than me, I know full well it wasn't the car. Have realistic expectations.

to me, it was, hence why i got rid of it in 8 months.

yes i did, the truck was costing me $150 every 3 days in gas and they wouldnt let me on the track with it. I wanted something better on gas and something i could track.

Personally i dont care what results are posted by articals on the net. All i care about is what i feel in the car. The brakes in the Z heated up to fast and felt like a sponge. The way they felt with the Z in stock form, feels the same way my brakes do now with ~431hp. I'm pushing the brakes on the Evo alot harder with that power and after a few laps they feel the same way the Z did. But with stock power, i could push them all day and not have that issue.

How much did you spend getting the Evo to 431 hp? For less than 1,000 bucks, you could have fixed your oil heating and braking issues with the Z.

Also, after reading the car saga, sounds like you don't know what you want in a vehicle.

and still run +70s lap times. I was running 67's with bald tires, slipping clutch, stock suspension and learning braking points with the new power. But to answer your question approx $11k.