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nmjaxx9 08-07-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1858486)
Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.

granny by day racer by night. :bowrofl:

Jsolo 08-07-2012 09:59 PM

^^It's like with sportbikes. You got the riders and the posers. The poser's have 2" wide chicken stripes on either side of their rear tires :)

KaienZ34 08-07-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1858486)
Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.


What do you care how others drive their cars. If i buy a lambo and drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and never hit the track how does it affect you? Some peoples children....:eekdance:

shadoquad 08-07-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1858554)
What do you care how others drive their cars. If i buy a lambo and drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and never hit the track how does it affect you? Some peoples children....:eekdance:

:icon18:

Jsolo 08-07-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1858554)
What do you care how others drive their cars. If i buy a lambo and drive 5 miles an hour under the speed limit and never hit the track how does it affect you? Some peoples children....:eekdance:

I couldn't care less. If you drive like a grandpa, get a grandpa car like a buick, not a 370z!

nmjaxx9 08-07-2012 10:27 PM

:wtf2::inoutroflpuke:

shadoquad 08-07-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1858583)
I couldn't care less. If you drive like a grandpa, get a grandpa car like a buick, not a 370z!

Apparently, you do care. lol

This is getting off topic, but Z owners should drive however it suits them. If that means caning it, tracking it, then so be it. If that means putt-putting to car shows or on lazy cruises, then ok.

But back to topic, yeah, any time you look at a used performance car, there's a greater likelihood that it has been put through the grinder than some putt putter.

KaienZ34 08-07-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1858583)
I couldn't care less. If you drive like a grandpa, get a grandpa car like a buick, not a 370z!


Ok car god, what else should i do?

KaienZ34 08-07-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1858583)
I couldn't care less. If you drive like a grandpa, get a grandpa car like a G, not a 370z!

:icon17:

obito 08-07-2012 10:45 PM

it all depends on how you look at it at the dealer. I'm driving an Rx8, but I never drive like crazy, slam in curves as it builds for, and never track them. I drive it under speed limit. I do believe there are some people like me out there who drive genteelly. Some people buy car just for fun to drive it. Most people wont risk their life driving fast.

whoady4shoady 08-08-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1858486)
Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.

I shift at 2000 RPMs on the way to work during the week, but I open her up someitmes on the weekend.

Davey 08-08-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 1859037)
I shift at 2000 RPMs on the way to work during the week, but I open her up someitmes on the weekend.

Careful, man... Jsolo's gonna come and take your car away. :hello:

KaienZ34 08-08-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1859042)
Careful, man... Jsolo's gonna come and take your car away. :hello:

Car driving nazi for the win. :icon14:

whoady4shoady 08-08-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 1859042)
Careful, man... Jsolo's gonna come and take your car away. :hello:

Should I get a custom plate that says Buick to fend him off? Im sure he gets confused easily.:stirthepot:

KaienZ34 08-08-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady (Post 1859210)
Should I get a custom plate that says Buick to fend him off? Im sure he gets confused easily.:stirthepot:


This is fact!!

Jsolo 08-08-2012 03:37 PM

Some of you children really need to grow up.

In the context of this thread, most people buy a sports vehicle to have fun with it. Accelerate fast, corner hard, wind the engine out, etc. There's a reason why the 370z has, among other things, the capable suspension, larger/wider tires, big brakes, short wheelbase, and a potent engine.

Utilizing this potential does put extra wear and tear on the car. When buying used, you really don't know how it was driven, if it was properly maintained. Of course this applies to any used vehicle. But even more so with a sports car. Chances are grandpa's oldsmobile was driven much differently than the typical sports vehicle. When considering one of these cars, these factors must be considered. That's not to say that all sports cars are abused or driven erratically. When buying used, if the price spread between a used and new is relatively low and somehting you can afford, then it may very well make more sense to pay the premium and have a brand new car.

@KaienZ34, since you took offense at my initial post and judging by your post count, you should drive more and spend less time on the internets.

KaienZ34 08-08-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1859529)
Some of you children really need to grow up.

In the context of this thread, most people buy a sports vehicle to have fun with it. Accelerate fast, corner hard, wind the engine out, etc. There's a reason why the 370z has, among other things, the capable suspension, larger/wider tires, big brakes, short wheelbase, and a potent engine.

Utilizing this potential does put extra wear and tear on the car. When buying used, you really don't know how it was driven, if it was properly maintained. Of course this applies to any used vehicle. But even more so with a sports car. Chances are grandpa's oldsmobile was driven much differently than the typical sports vehicle. When considering one of these cars, these factors must be considered. That's not to say that all sports cars are abused or driven erratically. When buying used, if the price spread between a used and new is relatively low and somehting you can afford, then it may very well make more sense to pay the premium and have a brand new car.

@KaienZ34, since you took offense at my initial post and judging by your post count, you should drive more and spend less time on the internets.


:icon18: Car nazi strikes again. No offense taken, just saying who cares how other drive their car. Your the one that started all this with you childish posts. :tiphat:

shadoquad 08-08-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1859529)
In the context of this thread, most people buy a sports vehicle to have fun with it. Accelerate fast, corner hard, wind the engine out, etc. There's a reason why the 370z has, among other things, the capable suspension, larger/wider tires, big brakes, short wheelbase, and a potent engine.

Utilizing this potential does put extra wear and tear on the car. When buying used, you really don't know how it was driven, if it was properly maintained. Of course this applies to any used vehicle. But even more so with a sports car. Chances are grandpa's oldsmobile was driven much differently than the typical sports vehicle. When considering one of these cars, these factors must be considered. That's not to say that all sports cars are abused or driven erratically. When buying used, if the price spread between a used and new is relatively low and somehting you can afford, then it may very well make more sense to pay the premium and have a brand new car.

This is what I've been saying. There is a higher likelihood that you're buying a ragged out car if you're buying a sports car used, than just some grocery getter, because a lot of people buy them and test their limits. That's why I'd rather buy a performance car new.

ERZperformance 08-08-2012 04:14 PM

I, personally, will get a brand new one.

Jsolo 08-08-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1859538)
No offense taken, just saying who cares how other drive their car. Your the one that started all this with you childish posts.

Who cares?? The person who has bought the used car and realized they need a new clutch or new rear end gears, or whatever else may be failing/failed due to abuse.

Wow.

@shadoquad, exactly. The price differential for me was about $5K. Wanted a manual, but was worried about having to do a clutch job. Also, CSC failures seem to be common. I wanted a full warranty, no headaches for the foreseeable future. It made sense to just buy new.

KaienZ34 08-08-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1859569)
Who cares?? The person who has bought the used car and realized they need a new clutch or new rear end gears, or whatever else may be failing/failed due to abuse.

Wow.

@shadoquad, exactly. The price differential for me was about $5K. Wanted a manual, but was worried about having to do a clutch job. Also, CSC failures seem to be common. I wanted a full warranty, no headaches for the foreseeable future. It made sense to just buy new.


Your the one that was saying if we don't drive the piss out of our cars we shouldn't have one. Now your changing your story? Try and keep up here. :icon17:

Jsolo 08-08-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1859595)
Your the one that was saying if we don't drive the piss out of our cars we shouldn't have one. Now your changing your story? Try and keep up here. :icon17:

Ok son, this is my last reply, then it's time to go home.

What I originally said is below, verbatim.

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Do people actually buy a 370z to baby it? I'd hope the majority buy it to drive it like it was meant to be driven. Doesn't mean beating the crap out of it, but also not driving like ms daisy.
I have no idea how you concluded to "driving this piss out of it" from the above statement. Albeit, our fine educational system at work.

Streetlife 08-08-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ERZperformance (Post 1859559)
I, personally, will get a brand new one.

Me too, that's what i did waited about 5 months for her to be built, but she was well worth it (also taking into consideration the devastation Japan suffered from the Tsunami). Knowing how a lot of sports car owners don't follow break in at all, i remember when i was in break in (about 1350 on her now) maybe went above 4K RPM 5 times, never exceeded 6K RPM (emergency situation only happened in one gear) of course i didn't hurt anything and know i did pretty good. For me, I will always buy sports cars new, and luxury cars right off of lease no older than 3 years old. :driving:

KaienZ34 08-08-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1859626)
Ok son, this is my last reply, then it's time to go home.

What I originally said is below, verbatim.



I have no idea how you concluded to "driving this piss out of it" from the above statement. Albeit, our fine educational system at work.

Your a funny little dude, you said people that don't drive hard shouldn't own a sports car. To be honest i drive pertty hard and have driven my Z and vette at the track a many times with a couple 1/4 passes in there. In the case of the people that don't go faster than 70 or get the rpm's over 3k, what does it matter to you? Does it affect you or hurt your feelings in anyway?

Snoopdork34 08-17-2012 09:47 AM

Thank you for the messages. Can I get your all's opinion on this one? It's low mileage and appears to have the sport package on it. Not sure on whether it is a touring model however.

http://www.naplesdodgechrysler.com/u...6b4017320a.htm

Also - do you all have any input on reupholstering and the cost associated with that? That interior looks pretty fugly to me in spite of being leather, would probably want to get it re-done.

Thanks!

cossie1600 08-17-2012 10:00 AM

It is a base with sport with aftermarket leather installed on it. I still think it is a good price though

b1adesofcha0s 08-17-2012 10:01 AM

That's a base model with the sports package.

falconfixer 08-17-2012 10:02 AM

Does not have touring. Not bad mileage but I think they are a little high on their price. Truecars has a few near me with a little higher mileage for around $25K

Defintely not a fan of that brown. You might get lucky and find someone that swapped out their seats for racing seats that will sell you a set on the cheap.

b1adesofcha0s 08-17-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1873664)
It is a base with sport with aftermarket leather installed on it. I still think it is a good price though

Looks like someone swapped the base cloth seats for the leather ones. You can tell it's not touring because of the non-Bose stereo and there are no seat heaters.

cossie1600 08-17-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1873677)
Looks like someone swapped the base cloth seats for the leather ones. You can tell it's not touring because of the non-Bose stereo and there are no seat heaters.

Yeah I said touring at first, I looked more closely and saw it was aftermarket leather. I don't think those are OEM leather seats, someone swapped it in. On the carfax report, that's what stated.

9000 miles is pretty low, that's why I don't think the price is outrageous

b1adesofcha0s 08-17-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1873722)
Yeah I said touring at first, I looked more closely and saw it was aftermarket leather. I don't think those are OEM leather seats, someone swapped it in. On the carfax report, that's what stated.

9000 miles is pretty low, that's why I don't think the price is outrageous

I thought the same thing after seeing the seats, but had to look again more closely. The stereo looked weird to me, which is what tipped me off.

KaienZ34 08-17-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1873735)
I thought the same thing after seeing the seats, but had to look again more closely. The stereo looked weird to me, which is what tipped me off.


Plus no bose shark fin antenna on the roof so non touring.

The Z monster 08-18-2012 01:35 PM

That doesn't have the sports package. Just the rims and spoiler added on. Look closely. There's no Synchro rev match button. Not a bad thing tho snoop!

falconfixer 08-18-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Z monster (Post 1875667)
That doesn't have the sports package. Just the rims and spoiler added on. Look closely. There's no Synchro rev match button. Not a bad thing tho snoop!

If you look even closer you can tell it's an automatic--no SRM

Joepro 08-19-2012 12:20 PM

I am on the used bandwagon, just buy smart. Drive the car, see how it feels, look at the details and the nooks and crannies of the car, some abuse cannot be hidden. Only advantage to certified is the extended warranty, which 09 and 10 is not a bad idea with the oil consumption issues... 100k powertrain, sees worth it to me if you plan of beating the car, plus you can buy ans 09 and still have a warranty.

I bought my 350z used with 67k, and I know it was beat on, had been in 2 accidents, and rattled all over...I made the car my own, and got a killer deal on it. I will be trading it on a 370 very soon, and a used one to boot. low miles can be had from 25k-30k depending on features.

11Thumper 08-20-2012 02:52 AM

A decent inspection is what, like $150? A fresh set of tires $1,500 and some fluid changes and alignment $500. Add a nice full detail at $250 and you're looking at almost $2,500 to refresh the car. Granted, not all this may be needed but new isn't that bad an option.

If $5k breaks your bank why buy a $30k+ sports car?

Snoopdork34 09-10-2012 12:46 AM

Used 2011
 
Thanks for all the input!

I am going to go test drive this one tomorrow. Thoughts?

Used 2011 Nissan 370Z For Sale | Naples FL .

The Z monster 09-10-2012 09:25 AM

Looks good

nmjaxx9 09-10-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopdork34 (Post 1909405)
Thanks for all the input!

I am going to go test drive this one tomorrow. Thoughts?

Used 2011 Nissan 370Z For Sale | Naples FL .

good luck! :tiphat:

Snoopdork34 09-21-2012 07:35 AM

New Z
 
Finally picked one up:

http://www.the370z.com/members/snoop...52-daytime.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/snoop...-nighttime.jpg


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