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cossie1600 07-22-2012 05:46 PM

I still say bring a 5 gallon jug, fill it up first before you try anything.

Of course Nissan techs are probably too retarded to do stupid things like that. They will tell you it is normal and avoid to pay for any work

christian370z 07-23-2012 03:01 PM

Actually you make a great point cossie, just before the car cut out I had just about a 1/4 or less a tank of gas and made a longish hard right turn on an on ramp before it cut out a few seconds later. Could it be fuel starvation? Would fuel starvation cause the starting issues and the multiple codes?

SailFree 07-23-2012 08:33 PM

Fuel Starve
 
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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1831393)
Just throwing it out there but could this have been the notorious fuel starve? Sounds kind of similar from the descriptions of fuel starve that I've read.

Had that happen with a boat I owned once. Would suddenly slow to nearly idle speed, refuse to go any faster. Checked fuel pump and everything else I could. Hard to do on the water, rocking around. Finally towed in. Then the dang thing would start right up and run fine again. Kept happening randomly. Finally punched out a screen filter in the top of the fuel tank and found a piece of astroturf carpeting floating around...

I seriously doubt that's your problem, but it does sound like a fuel starvation situation.

cossie1600 07-23-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1834017)
Actually you make a great point cossie, just before the car cut out I had just about a 1/4 or less a tank of gas and made a longish hard right turn on an on ramp before it cut out a few seconds later. Could it be fuel starvation? Would fuel starvation cause the starting issues and the multiple codes?

yup exactly what happened to me. The car didnt cut out in mid corner. It cut out after i gunned it off the corner when the reserve fuel from the fuel pump went dry. All your gas is now on the driver's side and the pump can't pick up anything. I never check for codes, but the dealer claimed I had over 1000+ codes on my computer and they said it must have been caused by my trailer hitch wiring and refused to work on it.

Please try to bring a 5 gallon tank, fill it up, start the car and tell those mofo they are idiots and Nissan sucks.

Oh yeah, I towed my car straight to the gas station 2 miles down the road. We filled it up before we lowered it. Of course as soon as I got gas in there, the car started right up

ChrisSlicks 07-23-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1831321)
I was on the on ramp merging onto the 405 and was in 3rd gear around 60mph and acceleration stopped. There was no power so I started pressing the gas pedal and the car didn't respond at all. So I left it in gear and coasted into the emergency lane where as soon as I let the clutch out, the car died.

It was already dead, you were coasting in gear using the engine as a giant air pump. The RPM's dropped as soon as you clutched in but the engine had already ceased firing, and they would have come back if you clutched out while moving (still with no fire of course).

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1834017)
Actually you make a great point cossie, just before the car cut out I had just about a 1/4 or less a tank of gas and made a longish hard right turn on an on ramp before it cut out a few seconds later. Could it be fuel starvation? Would fuel starvation cause the starting issues and the multiple codes?

Definitely fuel starve. I think the weird codes get thrown when trying to restart with no fuel on the pickup side. Clear codes, add 1 gallon of gas (pickup is on filler neck side), fires right up. Rinse, don't repeat.

2 years ago I got rescued by road side assistance due to this. Fortunately it never came to a flat bed, just added the 1 gallon of gas.

stratburst 07-23-2012 09:56 PM

Sounds a lot like fuel starvation to me. It's a known issue that Nissan refuses to fix and dealers are clueless about.

christian370z 07-24-2012 12:02 AM

I knew about fuel starvation, I just didn't know it could cause all those codes or the long time to start up which is why I didn't think of it at first. Cossie, that sounds identical to what happened to me. Hard prolonged corner, gunned it out and then a few seconds later the car died. I kept it in gear since I wanted to keep power to the steering and brakes as long as possible. That also explains why when I tried to start it, there were zero dots on the fuel gauge.

There's a gas station right by the dealer, this is my first fuel starvation experience and will definitely be my last time letting fuel levels get that low. It's just weird it's never happened before since I have done canyons and turns like that with the same fuel level. Thanks for all the advice everyone, I really appreciate it! :tiphat:

cossie1600 07-24-2012 12:10 AM

my autox day always starts with a full tank of gas. people think i am crazy, there is a reason.

I explained the same thing to the state trooper, even he was laughing at how bad the design was.

Alstann 07-24-2012 12:38 AM

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I have never experienced fuel starve like you guys are saying. Just now, I took a turnpike on ramp (about 270 degree turn, slight banking) accelerating all the way to 70 through it, and my fuel meter was on one dot. I also tried the off ramp (opposite direction) and still no stutters or anything. Might this be an issue with older 370Zs?

cossie1600 07-24-2012 08:17 AM

nope it happens to everyone of them, you just didn't turn hard and long enough. OP runs on RE11s, he probably never even felt that he was turning really fast given how sticky they are.

Alstann 07-24-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1834859)
nope it happens to everyone of them, you just didn't turn hard and long enough. OP runs on RE11s, he probably never even felt that he was turning really fast given how sticky they are.

Hm, that may be the case. I took the turn nearly as fast as possible, before the front started scrubbing and understeering. Still seems like a far cry from getting fuel starve with just half a tank or something modest. On stock RE050A, by the way.

cossie1600 07-24-2012 10:09 AM

I am sure it felt fast and you were going fast, but we can go faster simply because we have better tires. sometimes it isn't even speed, it is how you come off the turn. you can't beat the physical flaw of the gas tank, you just didn't do enough to hit it.

we get fuel starve at 75% fuel load...

christian370z 07-24-2012 02:21 PM

I was at the limit of the car going around a long near 180 degree right turn, funny that this never happened before but at least I know what it feels like to get fuel cut! Picked the car up from the dealer this morning, they couldn't replicate the issue which figures.

They are still blaming the GTR start button, LOL. The RE11s add so much grip with less drama, great setup!

cossie1600 07-24-2012 03:25 PM

I told you. it starts now because gas slowly leak back to the right side.

do you expect anything from Nissan? they blame my tpms light on my trailer hitch. they can **** themselves

anthonyy 07-24-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1835535)
I was at the limit of the car going around a long near 180 degree right turn, funny that this never happened before but at least I know what it feels like to get fuel cut! Picked the car up from the dealer this morning, they couldn't replicate the issue which figures.

They are still blaming the GTR start button, LOL. The RE11s add so much grip with less drama, great setup!

those darn GTR buttons causing fuel starvation!


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