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VAUROS 06-26-2012 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1792143)
I kind of agree. GT-R with a 6-speed and Syncro-Rev would be awesome.
If this existed, I wouldn't even be on this forum posting threads and I'd still own my GT-R!

Mt Tam I am 06-26-2012 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MistaVanquish (Post 1792150)
If this existed, I wouldn't even be on this forum posting threads and I'd still own my GT-R!
See, I am not alone!

NYBladeZ 06-26-2012 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1792058)

If Michael Schumaker drives me around the track I will go faster still. The point is, I am driving, not a car that thinks it knows what I want.
:tup:

Manual cars are fun ALL the time, except when you're in traffic but its really not that difficult and no one is having fun in traffic. The GT-R is great but its not a Driver's Car.

Subjectively, I think the GT-R looks like crap, on a weekly basis at our local Glen Clove meet you have your Ferraris, Lambos, and a Lotus and then you typically have 2-4 GT-Rs. Guess what, when it comes to looks the crowd doesn't look twice at the GT-R's. So you pay a premium to be the Exotics' Faster Ugly Step Sister, sorry man doesn't work for me.

Streetlife 06-26-2012 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MistaVanquish (Post 1792145)
I make $175k and I was comfortably affording both my GT-R and my 2011 Nissan Maxima. I sold the car because of the reasons I stated in this thread and my original thread. I've always had two cars; one for daily driving and a sports car. Before the GT-R, I had a 2011 E92 M3 Coupe and I sold that because my girlfriend told me we were expecting (my first child).

A few months after my daughter arrived, I started getting the itch again and placed an order for a 2012 E92 M3 Coupe. While waiting for my M3 to be built, I decided that I wanted to try a GT-R, so I cancelled my order and bought a GT-R. After owning (3) M3's before the GT-R, I simply felt that the GT-R was too perfect, too much power for public roads, and not having a manual just made the overall experience less than stimulating.

My reasons for wanting a Nismo Z has nothing to do with finances. I could easily afford a brand new M3 Coupe or any other car in the $75-100k range. However, the only car that peaks my interest, at this point, is the Nismo Z. I was actually going to get the new M5 but after reading that it drives like a luxury car but fast like a super sedan, I was completely turned off. BMW seems to be going 'soft' with the next generation of vehicles. Hopefully, the next M3 stays true to the ///M division's heritage.

Personally, unless you actually have the time to go to the track on a regular basis, which I don't, why own both a GT-R and a Z? You could just daily drive your Z and tune it to your liking. There are a lot of people that make VERY good money and don't drive $100k plus cars.
I understand where your coming from MistaVanquish. I just find it sad when you think your talking to a car guy that respects craftsmanship, R&D, quality, reliability, bloodline & pedigree, interaction with the driver from the car (a true drivers car), and you realize your dealing with someone who is just chasing a price tag. When i first read your post, i had no reason to think it was because of money, my thought is your looking for the best of all worlds (tuning, daily driver, track) nothing wrong with your choice trust me. I am not looking at another weekend toy since i got my 370Z (her name is Vanity).:tiphat:

G Fo12ce 06-26-2012 11:45 AM
Bottom line is they couldn't afford the payments/gas/insurance on a GT-R in the first place and probably had no business buying one. Claiming they are a purist and need a manual Z is probably only face saving IMO.

boomee 06-26-2012 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1791850)
Why not an M3 or a Mustang as an alternative?
:tup:
i think those are possible alternatives as well as the STi ( for me at least) let the flame of the new guy begin

m4a1mustang 06-26-2012 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by boomee (Post 1792204)
i think those are possible alternatives as well as the STi ( for me at least) let the flame of the new guy begin
:icon17:

rebe945 06-26-2012 11:48 AM
Money
 
:iagree:
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Originally Posted by 7419sundat (Post 1791547)
money!

Streetlife 06-26-2012 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1792180)
:tup:

Manual cars are fun ALL the time, except when you're in traffic but its really not that difficult and no one is having fun in traffic. The GT-R is great but its not a Driver's Car.

Subjectively, I think the GT-R looks like crap, on a weekly basis at our local Glen Clove meet you have your Ferraris, Lambos, and a Lotus and then you typically have 2-4 GT-Rs. Guess what, when it comes to looks the crowd doesn't look twice at the GT-R's. So you pay a premium to be the Exotics' Faster Ugly Step Sister, sorry man doesn't work for me.
I think the GT-R is gorgeous ( but i like the 370z's design more, it's perfect), and you can't beat the amazing engineering put into it (a twin turbo V6 thats, going up against V10's and a V16 Bugatti Veyron) for under $130,000. I'm not a track guy myself, but for anyone that i know that wants a supercar and they ask for my opinion, i recommend the GT-R, Lamborghini Aventador, or the Porsche GT3 4.0. That's the beauty of having a variety in all product markets though, you have to get out and test each one to find what fits your definition of a complete package. :driving:

boomee 06-26-2012 11:54 AM
if we take the engine out of the gtr and put it into a Z possible winner or better yet just go to stillen lol and get this package I think this might be a complete package


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL2a47pHzKY

Fabio88 06-26-2012 12:04 PM
To be honest the Stillen supercharger is not a good kit you want an STS turbo its not like a traditional turbo its mounted in the rear of the car no heat issues no turbo lag better mpg currently I'm sitting at 600 RWHP in my 370z and getting 45 mpg on highway at 80-90 mph take a look at his work ststurbo.com Rick is the owner good guy makes the best forced induction in the world no one can copy him because its all patented.

also since its mounted in the rear you have more room for upgrades on the engine F.Y.I

cossie1600 06-26-2012 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1792238)
To be honest the Stillen supercharger is not a good kit you want an STS turbo its not like a traditional turbo its mounted in the rear of the car no heat issues no turbo lag better mpg currently I'm sitting at 600 RWHP in my 370z and getting 45 mpg on highway at 80-90 mph take a look at his work
whatever., are you trolling to try to generate web traffic

Fabio88 06-26-2012 12:19 PM
not trolling if you havent heard of STS then something is wrong. look up youtube videos type in sts turbo look at vetts Z's what ever .

Streetlife 06-26-2012 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1792255)
not trolling if you havent heard of STS then something is wrong. look up youtube videos type in sts turbo look at vetts Z's what ever .
I remember when they were at SEMA.

Fabio88 06-26-2012 12:25 PM
heres some videos

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ug9bg7Rm_qU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uJavl36nNQI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AFDIOykNWhc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm not trolling low pounds of boost still pulls over 500 to the wheels.

Fabio88 06-26-2012 12:26 PM
heres some videos

STS Turbo Corvette C6 MPG Test - YouTube

STS Turbo Nismo 370 Z Start up and take off - YouTube

STS Turbo Nissan 370Z - YouTube

I'm not trolling low pounds of boost still pulls over 500 to the wheels.

Fabio88 06-26-2012 12:27 PM
Killer here vette see do your research before you start saying someone is trolling.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_ZVBgQU-mCs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

falconfixer 06-26-2012 12:32 PM
:drama:

m4a1mustang 06-26-2012 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 1792281)
:drama:
:iagree:

cossie1600 06-26-2012 12:41 PM
Turbo changes mileage off boost? really? is billy Mays selling this ****?

Fabio88 06-26-2012 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1792312)
Turbo changes mileage off boost? really? is billy Mays selling this ****?
Lol dude you know nothing about cars.. Hes not selling bull **** i just recommended something better then stillen why because I have it.

Do your research before you start throwing a fit.

kenchan 06-26-2012 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1792317)
Lol dude you know nothing about cars.. Hes not selling bull **** i just recommended something better then stillen why because I have it.

Do your research before you start throwing a fit.
well, he is a hybrid kinda guy, the cossie...

cossie1600 06-26-2012 12:53 PM
I don't, you are definitely the man. I just happen to know commercials and I can recognize a bad one when I see it.

I am so mad now that I have to go take a spin in my black edition type r mugen nismo gt-r for a 200mph run on i95......yes its real!

cossie1600 06-26-2012 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1792324)
well, he is a hybrid kinda guy, the cossie...
yeah man. I am so sad watching the video because I traded in my c6 for the Prius. who would have known, 42mpg from a vette. I am going to buy a c6 right now, I am going to ask them to take over my gtr lease first though....

kenchan 06-26-2012 01:13 PM
wow, how does one carry so much cash in wallet? :icon17:

cossie1600 06-26-2012 01:17 PM
I wouldn't dare to compare to you since you know so much about cars and have all the gadget and the money. I am just a poor driver that drives an extreme slow car that can only get 42mpg with 100hp.

as ultra magnus would say, "I'm - I'm just a soldier. i -i'm not worthy"

cossie1600 06-26-2012 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1792395)
wow, how does one carry so much cash in wallet? :icon17:
we have to have 500hp, a gtr to find out

m4a1mustang 06-26-2012 01:19 PM
:bowrofl:

DCNISMO 06-26-2012 01:22 PM
Billy Mays died from a cocaine overdose......but Vince from shamwow is still alive.

MacLean 06-26-2012 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 1791940)
All i gotta say is, if you are downgrading from a 100k car to a 30k car to me its more of a money issue.

If you can afford a GTR, like ACTUALLY AFFORD ONE, you can buy a Z too if you really wanted to.

If i can afford a GTR, i would never back track to a Z, regardless of Manual or not. *I'd buy both*
+1........... :iagree: If I could afford a GTR, then a 370Z would never cross my mind to be quite honest (MAYBE get as a DD). I would be sticking with cars near or in the GTR price range (911 Carrera S, Carrera 4S, M3……), but near downgrade.

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce (Post 1792200)
Bottom line is they couldn't afford the payments/gas/insurance on a GT-R in the first place and probably had no business buying one. Claiming they are a purist and need a manual Z is probably only face saving IMO.
+1........... :iagree: IMHO I think anybody can lease a GTR, but far from few can actually afford to buy the GTR. When you are leasing a car you are going to pay a couple to several hundred less each month on your monthly car payment & in the end you will never actually pay the full price of the car. So at the end of the day it is always about money. A lot of people are just trying to impress others & trying to keep up with the Jone’s IMHO.

kenchan 06-26-2012 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1792407)
I wouldn't dare to compare to you since you know so much about cars and have all the gadget and the money. I am just a poor driver that drives an extreme slow car that can only get 42mpg with 100hp.

as ultra magnus would say, "I'm - I'm just a soldier. i -i'm not worthy"
cossie- bloating numbers is one thing, but prius has 98hp, not the huge 100hp from the 1.8L. 2hp is 2hp. you got 2 horses that dont belong in there so your post is completely wrong!

the windup motor has another 34 or something on a good day. get your facts straight. check the magazine articles like the rest of us... there the facts.

kenchan 06-26-2012 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DCNISMO (Post 1792416)
Billy Mays died from a cocaine overdose......but Vince from shamwow is still alive.
this is good to know... can't clean up the car without shamwow.

cossie1600 06-26-2012 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1792426)
cossie- bloating numbers is one thing, but prius has 98hp, not the huge 100hp from the 1.8L. 2hp is 2hp. you got 2 horses that dont belong in there so your post is completely wrong!

the windup motor has another 34 or something on a good day. get your facts straight. check the magazine articles like the rest of us... there the facts.
mine is a trd model with a mitsubishi turbo and i have 10k into it. it definitely has over 198hp while getting 98mpg. fox news will be conducting fact checks on it.

kenchan 06-26-2012 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1792453)
mine is a trd model with a mitsubishi turbo and i have 10k into it. it definitely has over 198hp while getting 98mpg. fox news will be conducting fact checks on it.
nice~!

boomee 06-26-2012 01:46 PM
wow we gone way off topic lolololl oh well when in rome

m4a1mustang 06-26-2012 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by boomee (Post 1792477)
wow we gone way off topic lolololl oh well when in rome
You need to go back and check your intro thread!

kenchan 06-26-2012 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1792484)
You need to go back and check your intro thread!
Quote:
Originally Posted by boomee (Post 1789332)
Im new to the forums doing research not quite sure wich car I want at the moment but the Z is definitly on the top 5 list along with STI hatches, 5.0 mustangs, C5 vetts. I do have an affinity for nissans in general since my dad owned a 280ZX and I had a 2003 Nissan SER( non spec V but manual transmision) so I have alot of fond memories of nissans. Currently driving a modded subaru forester XT( I have 2 dogs) looking for more info to make a educated purchase
this?

boomee 06-26-2012 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by boomee (Post 1791526)
Hey I have seen and talked to a couple of people that have decided to ''downgrade'' from gtrs to 370 Zs whats the benifit of that? From what I gather is just that the Z comes in manual. What are the other reasons I have never driven GTR but like other people who arnt in the know everyone talks about that car as a world beating car so why the change?

PS Im new on this forum if I need to have this in another thread please let me know.
nope this is the start of this forum kechen that is the other thread I made lol

m4a1mustang 06-26-2012 02:02 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Go back and read my welcome note. :icon17:

Cmike2780 06-26-2012 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1792380)
I'm not sure if real. Please send me bank account user name and password to confirm :)


jk.


Seriously, no need start swinging your stick around, lol.

IBTL


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