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Huckleberry 06-02-2012 04:18 PM

i have not noticed anything different.

no delay!

KingZee 06-02-2012 09:35 PM

I feel like I have to clear some things up after reading last couple pages...first of all, I never meant to raise all this unrest over the start up delay. I think it's a minor issue but still felt it should be brought up to inform everyone and to have some help analyzing. Your car isn't going to blow up because there's a start up delay.

Second point I need to clear up with MY issue is that I have definitely had start up issues when the clutch hasn't been pressed all the way and in those cases the car usually does not start until the start button is pressed AGAIN. I had that issue before pulling the fuse and this delay is definitely NOT that issue.

When I press the button I never change the position of the clutch NOR do I ever press the button again. I press the button once and keep the clutch pressed in. The car starts 3-5 seconds later.

Also important to note, this does NOT happen all the time but seems like it happens more often when the car has been off for a little while.

Baer, I think you now realize that there may be a delay but you were really defensive in the beginning without really reading and understanding my facts. Just realize that I'm not here arguing with you I actually am really appreciative of what you guys discovered and want what's best for the community.

The obvious reason that this start up delay would exist is from the CPU waiting for confirmation/communication of the steering lock but not getting one in a timely manner and "timing out" and starting the car anyway. This doesn't explain why it doesn't happen every single time though, that's what's weird to me at this point.

zero 06-02-2012 09:51 PM

i have not noticed anything different either. The time it takes for the car to start is the same as with the lock. It just does not have the sound of the lock before the car starting.

KingZee 06-02-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zero (Post 1751244)
i have not noticed anything different either. The time it takes for the car to start is the same as with the lock. It just does not have the sound of the lock before the car starting.

Nice Paul :tup: I didn't have it today after car had been off for a day and a half...hopefully I was just dreaming :) I'll keep you guys posted

Baer383 06-03-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingZee (Post 1751235)
I feel like I have to clear some things up after reading last couple pages...first of all, I never meant to raise all this unrest over the start up delay. I think it's a minor issue but still felt it should be brought up to inform everyone and to have some help analyzing. Your car isn't going to blow up because there's a start up delay.

Second point I need to clear up with MY issue is that I have definitely had start up issues when the clutch hasn't been pressed all the way and in those cases the car usually does not start until the start button is pressed AGAIN. I had that issue before pulling the fuse and this delay is definitely NOT that issue.

When I press the button I never change the position of the clutch NOR do I ever press the button again. I press the button once and keep the clutch pressed in. The car starts 3-5 seconds later.

Also important to note, this does NOT happen all the time but seems like it happens more often when the car has been off for a little while.

Baer, I think you now realize that there may be a delay but you were really defensive in the beginning without really reading and understanding my facts. Just realize that I'm not here arguing with you I actually am really appreciative of what you guys discovered and want what's best for the community.

The obvious reason that this start up delay would exist is from the CPU waiting for confirmation/communication of the steering lock but not getting one in a timely manner and "timing out" and starting the car anyway. This doesn't explain why it doesn't happen every single time though, that's what's weird to me at this point.



I get defensive b/c I know that if it was a electrical issue like waiting for a signal then yes it would do it EVERY time but I have had this issue with my 7AT with the fuse in (b/c I have the upgraded "D" lock) I took a look at the wiring diagrams to see what role the steering lock relay has in this,now on the other thread there have been comments that this is the cause and bad things will happen b/c you Fvcked with the IDPM even though this is there opinion I still think it is reckless to post it on the net b/c everybody reads into it,I'm reading the wiring diagram plus I'm going to go to Nissan and have him read it with the fuse out the Consult 3 ( I know people there personally )so I should get a straight answer.

geddy lee 06-03-2012 02:22 PM

No delay today. It really doesn't matter to me if there is a delay or not. I pulled the fuse and nothing else out of the ordinary happened so I intend to leave it out . I have a 2009 so I do not want to have any steering lock issues. I think the idea of the steering lock is ridiculous anyway. I have a security system, If they get past that, they are going to steal the car anyway. I had a friend with a MKIV Supra with about 30 K extra stuff invested. One night when he was at the Olive Garden a flat bed pulled up , put some chains on the back and pulled it up , dragging it accross the parking space and up onto the truck, then gone.

wheee! 06-03-2012 02:36 PM

No delay issues in the last two days... It's all in my head I think! :icon14:

KingZee 06-03-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1751674)
I get defensive b/c I know that if it was a electrical issue like waiting for a signal then yes it would do it EVERY time but I have had this issue with my 7AT with the fuse in (b/c I have the upgraded "D" lock) I took a look at the wiring diagrams to see what role the steering lock relay has in this,now on the other thread there have been comments that this is the cause and bad things will happen b/c you Fvcked with the IDPM even though this is there opinion I still think it is reckless to post it on the net b/c everybody reads into it,I'm reading the wiring diagram plus I'm going to go to Nissan and have him read it with the fuse out the Consult 3 ( I know people there personally )so I should get a straight answer.

:tup: look forward on hearing what Nissan has to say...btw i had the delay again this morning. It doesn't happen all the time but it's been happening often enough after removing the fuse that i'm convinced that's the cause bro.

Also, i look at it more as a "computer communication" issue rather than some kind of "electrical" malfunction which is what's scaring people i think but i think we're on the same page with that.

MyZ4U2C 06-03-2012 04:24 PM

Quick and easy, once I found the fuse box, unfortunately the dang fuse slipped out of my fingers once I pulled it out and fell in-between a area I cant see / get to...not that it matters much ...works like a charm! repped and repped! Thanks!

SPOHN 06-03-2012 05:40 PM

If you look at the fuse panel at the drivers side kick panel on the top right hand side there is a designated fuse puller that won't allow to to drop them as your pulling them.

spearfish25 06-03-2012 09:21 PM

A thought as this is becoming a long thread of mostly unhelpful information:

I think we should close this thread and repost this DIY with a clear title and a first post that outlines exactly what to do. I had to read about 6 pages of posts to figure out where the fuse was, how to get the IPDM out, and which fuse to pull.

sz34 06-03-2012 09:24 PM

just did this, started it up, no delays or anything. airythangs copacetic haha. thanks guys! repped! :tup:

Phaddi_inc 06-03-2012 09:36 PM

Also had one delay start
 
Had a delay start the other morning, went to reach for the start again but it started before pushing it...almost forgot I removed the fuse for the steering lock, everything else has been normal. Never had that happen before but not really too concerned. It's definitely not our imagination or paranoia...

Phaddi_inc

KingZee 06-04-2012 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaddi_inc (Post 1752467)
Had a delay start the other morning, went to reach for the start again but it started before pushing it...almost forgot I removed the fuse for the steering lock, everything else has been normal. Never had that happen before but not really too concerned. It's definitely not our imagination or paranoia...

Phaddi_inc

yeah, that's it.

daylaZ 06-04-2012 05:30 PM

General question about the steering lock issue. Does the problem occur before a certain amount of miles or can it happen at any time during the life cycle of the car? For instance I was wondering you bought a 2009 370Z above XX,XXX miles you would be safe from the lock. Also, is there anyway to check if the car has had the problem before and been fixed?


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