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gsxr750 05-26-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1738188)
Cat material is fairly regularly sucked into the engine when they go bad. You should try searching these things before posting about them.

I think you misunderstand the way the valves are timed. Overlap is very common.

There is no exact proof in any of these online claims that broken cat material gets sucked back into the exhaust ports, from a reputable source.

Most of these claims are other online forums or ask the mechanic sites etc.

MattP725 05-26-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1738537)
That's a really interesting idea -- I didn't think the resonators on an exhaust as restrictive at the core of a cat. If true, that's a good way to stay OEM and green, but pick up lost power. Would be neat to see a dyno comparison of the two set ups.

Resonators create no exhaust gas restrictions, cats do... HFCs paired with resonated or non-resonated exhausts will produce the same gains. Regular cats vs HFCs do change the restriction however. This has been tested by lots of different exhaust manufacturers.

Sburns04 05-29-2012 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1735802)
Use to happen to the 02-06 Spec-V Sentras all the time on the Pre-Cats.

+1 Happened to a friend of mines spec-v last year

G37Sam 05-29-2012 02:16 AM

Isn't a little bit of exhaust sucked back in as some sort of EGR? I read somewhere Nissan uses that technology but not very sure

Shamu 05-29-2012 07:50 AM

Nissan dealers have been known to hire people. People post things on the Internet. People are highly unreliable.

Would love to see picture of said Berk cat. Evidence that cat material was found in combustion chamber or oil pan. Maintenance records of said 370z with accounting of people who did the work. Frequency and type of oil used. What kind of oil filters used for all oil changes. Any monkeying around with tune?

Yes some other motors have had issues with precats but haven't seen much evidence to regular cats located a ways down the system causing this on a VQ37. Not saying it can't happen but would like to see real evidence.

Otherwise this is just a bunch of pointless yapping and sensless product bashing.

Guard Dad 05-29-2012 04:38 PM

One vote for stock cats and peace of mind.

gomer_110 05-29-2012 04:50 PM

Just get LTH's and then you can't have a problem with the cats. That's got my vote.

2011 Nismo#91 05-30-2012 07:39 AM

I know this can and has been an issue for pre-cats. How ever this is just impossible for a normal Cat. Yes there is some gas sucked back during overlap but you have 5 other cylinders one of which will be exhausting completely. So at most the exhaust pressure would be reduced but as for an over all back flow of the exhaust is just BS.

Your blown engine was due to other issues, the destroyed cat is unrelated. And more then likely all the oil burning clogged the cat up and exhaust pressure just ripped through the clog. But all this is difficult to prove hence why they are just replacing the engine.

Red__Zed 05-30-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1744171)
I know this can and has been an issue for pre-cats. How ever this is just impossible for a normal Cat. Yes there is some gas sucked back during overlap but you have 5 other cylinders one of which will be exhausting completely. So at most the exhaust pressure would be reduced but as for an over all back flow of the exhaust is just BS.

Your blown engine was due to other issues, the destroyed cat is unrelated. And more then likely all the oil burning clogged the cat up and exhaust pressure just ripped through the clog. But all this is difficult to prove hence why they are just replacing the engine.

Isn't piping separate to the cat, with each cat seeing three cylinders?

ImportConvert 05-30-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabsnoop (Post 1737301)
Just went to the dealership to take a look at the broken HFC. The whole entire honey comb of the cat was broken off. It was just moving around freely. The tech at Nissan said "the only reason Nissan decided to replace the motor is because this motor is known for having oil consumption issues." I asked him if he was certain that the cat was the reason the engine failed..He said "it's one of the reasons.." I swear they'll never give you a for sure answer to anything. Should i go the test pipe route, have the hfc replaced (probably the worst idea since permanent viagra), or put the stock cats back on?

You're lucky he DIDN'T give you a "for sure answer". Shuffle back to the lobby and zip the lip, you just got a free engine even though the crap parts from Berk are what destroyed it. Go play the lotto.

onzedge 05-30-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1745577)
You're lucky he DIDN'T give you a "for sure answer". Shuffle back to the lobby and zip the lip, you just got a free engine even though the crap parts from Berk are what destroyed it. Go play the lotto.

:iagree:

Rusty 05-30-2012 11:41 PM

Until someone tears the engine down. You will never know what really happened the this engine! Talk all you want about it. It's all guessing for now. :shakes head:

vjarnot 05-31-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1744171)
Your blown engine was due to other issues, the destroyed cat is unrelated. And more then likely all the oil burning clogged the cat up and exhaust pressure just ripped through the clog.

This is the only scenario which makes any damn sense at all.

christian370z 06-02-2012 11:29 PM

Unless you go with test pipes, there are examples of all types and brands of catalytic converters failing, stock or not. In my opinion, the vast majority (myself included) have had nothing but great experiences with Berk HFCs.


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