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Zed123 05-23-2012 05:36 AM

Does your 370Z suffer badly from brake fade?
 
Hi

I'm close to purchasing a 370Z (auto trans with sports pack). I have tested a car and read a lot of reviews. I'm concerned about a 2011 370Z review by Car and Driver, they had big issues with brake fade on their test 370Z?

Quote:

And that braking feat comes with a caveat: The Z exhibited the worst fade in our standard five-stop, 70-to-0-mph braking test. Twenty-nine feet separated its shortest stops from the longest, and the Z’s brakes proved to be the car’s Achilles’ heel.

Even on the road drive, and despite the fitment of $580 NISMO brake pads and the $3030 Sport package, the Z’s brakes faded noticeably. We had to cool the stoppers repeatedly out of  fear of  failure. Then, while lapping Grattan, the engine-oil temperature reached roughly 290 degrees, and the car adopted a low-power mode for self-preservation. This required even more low-speed driving to cool things down. Not fun.
http://http://www.caranddriver.com/f...an-370z-page-4

Is this a common problem?

Thanks in advance.

Mike 05-23-2012 06:02 AM

on the track, yes, on the street no. just upgrade the fluid to Motul or the like and you will be fine on the street.

kenchan 05-23-2012 06:45 AM

As mike said, no. For street for me. I have sport brakes on mine.

spearfish25 05-23-2012 07:56 AM

You should never have an issue on the street. If you do, you'll have bigger problems with law enforcement than your brakes. On track, you'll have to give the car a little TLC (pads and fluid change) before you can go out there and have at it.

edub370 05-23-2012 08:04 AM

took me 6 laps at heartland park to get any fade.

SPOHN 05-23-2012 08:25 AM

Not really. I have Motul fluid, Carbotech pads, and brake ducts. So even at the track I go to I really never get fade. I've had very very little fade I can hardly tell threw the pedal. But everything seems to trap great.

osbornsm 05-23-2012 09:19 AM

Now with decent pads and fluid... is "Ice Mode" still an issue? I hear that's the vacuum assist issue.

cossie1600 05-23-2012 10:39 AM

I think it is a programming issue

SPOHN 05-23-2012 10:46 AM

I still haven't seen ice mode. And I've done plenty of variations to trigger it and can't. So........

edub370 05-23-2012 11:31 AM

wtf is ice mode?

Red__Zed 05-23-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1732783)
wtf is ice mode?

the brakes will basically let up to about 30% of capacity under heavy braking on less-than-smooth surfaces. It is (most likely) a fault with the ABS controller

Mt Tam I am 05-23-2012 01:05 PM

I had stock pads for two years without any hint of brake fade. I also have been aware of it (fade) and do not like that thought in my brain while having fun. I am always in a lower gear to help mitigate brake fade too.

You can not be truly competitive at the track with the stock sport brakes. I had to coast into a turn vs standing on the brakes at the last moment.

It hurt racing times, but by managing my brakes the way I have done, no brake fade has occured. I also had about a third of my brakes left after 4 track sessions. After Leguna Seca I had brake material melted onto my rotors.

Now I have new pads and fluid and will try them out this Sunday at Leguna. I hope to be able to really get on it and gas it into the turns vs coasting.

Zed123 05-23-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1733044)
Now I have new pads and fluid and will try them out this Sunday at Leguna. I hope to be able to really get on it and gas it into the turns vs coasting.

Let us know how it goes if you can. Have a great day.

Thanks for the informative replies to all.

I want some track time so I'll have to closely monitor things.

UNKNOWN_370 05-23-2012 11:14 PM

Street I had NO FADE with regular fluid. But now I have upgraded Stop tech brake pkg for my akebono and motul rbf600. Also about to purchase the stillen brake cooling kit as soon as I'm done with some other mods... the Z brakes are near perfect with this kit and stillen's brake cooling will make it flawless. Total cost of upgrades... $1000

TheGreatOne 05-24-2012 12:00 AM

Street with sport brakes, no issues at all

I've actually had the 2 people I let drive my car say the brakes are super aggressive


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