Thinking of returning to 370Z
 

I joined the forum in 2009 upon purchasing a new 09 370Z,coupe mag blk/ frost,manual,tour, sport, nav, the works. One year later got impulsive, and due to an all around great deal traded in the Z for a 2010 corvette grand sport convertible. A year later I sold the vette, was a little disappointed & missed the Z. From here you promote yourself to a P-car, as in new carrera s (991). The only problem is I already have a high mortgage payment, no need for another, what a dilema. So here I am contemplating ordering the 911 which I will be biting off a little more than I can chew (money-wise). So today I'm driving past a Nissan dealer and see parked in front a brand new 2012 Identical to my 2009 except with persimmon Interior. Which is what I sought in 09 but could not find. So I'm thinking I could buy this car outright and spare myself a big car loan. Mind you, I know the Z is not a porsche but I think I could be content with the car & no huge monthly payment (stress-free). Sticker on the Z is a little over 42k. Can someone tell me if there is an oil cooler on a 2012 or what other changes were made since 2009 and also since the 2013's will be out soon, what is a good price on this car. thanks.

I dont know all the details of model year changes, but the 2012 does have an oil-cooler.

I had a similar dilemna w/the caymanS. In the end cheap car payments and keeping money in the bank(0% fin)just made more sense for me. Then again Ive never been a big fan of credit or leveraging yourself(esp. for a depreciating asset). That and I like the way the z drives. Drove a 911S and was unimpressed especially for the money. CaymanS may be worth looking into if you want a P-car that is a little cheaper.

With the way you waste $ switching cars every year I'm not sure how you can afford a house. None of my business but I doubt you'll be happy with a Z this time around. Just buy used.

Anyway...

Can someone tell me if there is an oil cooler on a 2012: Yes

What other changes were made since 2009: Several, mostly minor including a cabin air filter and heated mirrors

What is a good price on this car: Research! New Cars, Used Cars, Car Reviews and Pricing - Edmunds.com, Hassle-Free Car Buying Experience from Local Dealers - TrueCar, etc

There is a search function here I suggest you give it a try.

Glad to see you are considering coming back！

I am pretty sure 2012 models have added a oil cooler. Its big enough for spirited driving in summer heat, but probably a little on the small side for serious tracking from what I heard on here.
2012 models refines the little issues found on the 09's such as the stuck hatch release, steering wheel lock...etc. could be more than this though.

Price wise 42k for a fully loaded new Z. I think its not too bad, but should drop a bit when the 2013 model comes out. Still.. it depends on if people like the new look of the 2013 model or not. lol

Hope that helped :D

You never pay sticker. Try to get below invoice. I paid $1400 below invoice for mine.

You are going to be disappointed, time to drive a used Honda Civic for 5 years cuz you're still fresh off from cars at least 1 class above the Z.

I'd just buy the Z outright, as you mentioned. Better to have no payments to think about.

Get the Porsche. you only live once man!

+1...:iagree:

Yep, nice not having to make a monthly payment

Just curious what had made you want to switch up to a Vette, and how you ended up changing your mind exactly. I've had my 370Z for about a year now, and the main issues I have with it I've really addressed by it not being my primary vehicle anymore. Did you feel cramped in the Z?

Maybe wait for the new cayman? The new boxter is quite amazing. and man on man the 991s I got to extensively test drive was a dream. I say go Porsche (maybe not the 991) but you may want to switch quickly if you get the Z again.

You sound like an extremely impulsive buyer. You been through 3 cars in 4 years. If you have a high mortgage? Think first... Should I spend $44k otd on yet another car. At 4 cars in 3 years I'm sure you lost $15k+payments. At least... sounds to me like you should get a used car for $25k and you will level out some of what you lost. But that's just an opinion.

As far as what you should do if I didn't know how financially wreckless you are...
I would say its easier to just get a Z than those other cars. German cars come with higher maintenece bills, higher insurance and higher price tag.

The 2012 have oil coolers rated for aggressive street. Track is another issue. 2010-12 models have been improving minor details.
2010 brought heated mirrors,air filter, ecu whine tsb, trunk issue tonneau cover brackets standard, better-brighter NAV screen, Nismo R tune pad optionand steering lock issue.
2011 brought upgraded springs and dampers for less bumpy ride, a little more sound deadening to reduce nvh. Minor engine tweaking to reduce harshness, Homelink/backup camera OEM option on base & non nav touring models,Nismo S tune pad option and improved paint quality.
2012 brought the oil cooler and base no price increase from 2011 except on sport pkg and nav.

2013 brings a new front fascia, completely new shock upgrade further increasing handling and ride compliance, new base and sport wheels. Further tweaking for nvh reduction Nismo will get touring pkg stereo and add 2 speakers to system for richer sound quality, red reflector instead of blackout foglight plate and new pricing.

This paragraph is a guess...
Though it hasn't been written by anyone, I imagine there will be some new nav upgrades and possibly some type of handling technology. Just because many of the new nissans in the line-up are getting drastic tech upgrades. I don't think the Z will get drastic tech upgrades, but maybe just a taste to get an idea of what's in store for next gen???

^^Nice write up Unknown! Didn't know about those little unannounced upgrades through the model years as far as ride quality. Great info! :tup:

I have a 2011. It has no oil cooler whatsoever?


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A bit of dwell time in the base pan:ugh2:

Sorry. When right over my head.


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hey steve- so do we call you a re-newb? :confused: :icon17:

i think you'll like the Z (again). :p

I would recoup some of that impulsiveness money you lost and get as nice used 2009 370Z and call it good!

The Porsche are very nice, but go with the Z. The reason it is cheaper & less of a headache down the road. Your insurance, maintenance & the price of the car is considerably less with the Z. If you are not worried about money, then go with the Porsche, but get the extended warranty FOR SURE. Like the saying goes if you can afford a high-end car, then you can afford all the other BS (insurance, gas, maintenance, tires & etc). If you cannot really afford the car & more or less the other essentials, then forget it.

Z (new or used) + supercharger (GTM or Stillen) = win

It really depends on what you're after. As much as I like the 370Z, I wouldn't buy the same car again if you were not really happy with it in the past. There are plenty of options @ $40k. I'd sooner try out other cars I haven't driven yet. BMW, Audi, Evo, Sti, 'stang, etc, etc....

Does anyone have a link to this tsb?

If you can't find it here in the Z forum? You might want to check the infiniti forum because they were the first to start getting the whine addressed by the dealer.

That's because it was added in 2012 models.

AS an Investor and Money Manager, my brain is fried by this thread...

No more to say other than enjoy whatever you buy...Even if it is for a year...

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I too am an impulse car buyer but I like to buy the end of the year deals. I bought a g37 coupe that way and then my current ride, a 370 roadster ... Both for around 8 grand off sticker. I also recently had an older Boxster but was scared of the maintenance costs so sold it... Also tried a Miata, gto, 350z, g35 coupe, etc. anyway like others said you are throwing a lot of money down the drain but if you can afford it you might as well try a few others too. How about the new brz/frs? Get something simple and cheap as someone else said to "reset" your expectations in cars. Especially after that grand sport! How about like an 07 350z or rx8... You could probably pick up a very nice example of one of those for around 10 or 12 grand... About the sales tax on a 911!! Just an idea. Or even a 5 yr old Boxster or cayman for like 20 grand? Whatever you decide to do, enjoy the ride!

EDIT: Found the answer.

Sound deadening to reduce nvh? What is nvh?

Noise Vibration (ride) Harshness

Link to ECU tsb please!