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SPOHN 05-05-2012 02:52 PM

That sucks. Sorry cossie. Rep for yea.

IMWEZL 05-05-2012 02:56 PM

Yeah you have to hit a right turn really hard. Its happened twice to me. On both times I was on the very limit of Corning traction and acceleration. I think I had less than 1/2 a tank n both cases as well.

Compdoc777 05-05-2012 03:00 PM

I keep mine on Economy all the time never had the problem yet. I wonder if they fixed it for 2011?

If it happens I am going to be pissed though and report it.

PapoZalsa 05-05-2012 03:51 PM

You can also have a faulty Fuel Sending Unit and could be a reason for not giving you the correct reading. I just got mine replaced 2 weeks ago.

cossie1600 05-05-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1705365)
Fuel starvation is a weird feeling. last month at the track I was low on gas (stupidly knowing this was an issue), about a quarter tank, and a sweeping right turn. I thought I'd shifted into the wrong gear, several seconds later it made a slight popping sound ( or some kind of sound), and all was well again. It happened again on the next lap and then I slowed down on all right handers.

I would think a small reservoir tank in between gas tank and combustion chamber would solve this inexpensively. I am not a mechanic or engineer so what do I know.

Z has a returnless system, very hard to do

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1705371)
oddly enough on my 2011 i have never had this issue with fuel starvation even when running on 1/4 tank and making long sweeping right hand turns on an onramp going about 50-60....makes me wonder if nissan secretly addressed this issue in the 2011 and up, guess i'll have to wait for some more 2011 and up owners to chime in.

See below

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 1705374)
I dunno, I have an '09 and have regularly run the tank down below the 1/4 tank mark and have never had a problem even with spirited driving on curvey roads with and without elevation changes. I wonder if there is a problem or defect with a batch of tanks versus the overall design of the gas tank. Someone who has had the problem definitely needs to cut their tank in half and do a video for the rest of us. Any takers? :tiphat:


Quote:

Originally Posted by cgmg21 (Post 1705383)
Sorry to hear the bad news. Kind of sucks that it took 1.5hrs out of your life, but at least things are back to normal. Oh congrats on your wife being pregnant.

Ty

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1705398)
I have run my 2012 down to the dummy warnings telling me to fuel up and havent had this happen to me. I wasn't even aware this was a problem.. I am going to fuel up more often now

Iit is a fuel pickup issue. The cup that is used to hold fuel is simply too small. It is part of the fuel pump assembley. The whole part should be redesigned. As far as I know, all fuel pump assembly is the same from 09 to 12.

Btw, the problem usually happens when you come out of the corner, not entering the corner since only a small amount of fuel is being held in the cup. If you gun it and use up the fuel inside it, you are sol. You either get a hick up or you have to get towed.

Z has a returnless system, its going to take more work to install another pump. My friend who designed my trailer hitch can do it, but I am hesitant about blowing another 1k in the car.


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Originally Posted by jazz-Z (Post 1705416)
If I had a car that had this issue I would be really peeved, and taking legal action. I almost hesitate to say that I have an '09, and haven't had this problem. I wonder if the guys on the forum that have the fuel starve problem could compare notes on their builds to see if there was a defective lot of fuel pumps that are causing this issue.

Frankly I think that a lot of the other complaints I hear about the Z on this forum is just a bunch of BS grousing about nothing more than individual idiosyncratic irritations, or misinformed expectaion. The fuel starve issue, however is serious and potentially life threatening.

I wasn't driving the Prius, can't do 170......

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1705427)
cossie -were you going 170mph and told officer you can go even faster?


cossie1600 05-05-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 1705546)
You can also have a faulty Fuel Sending Unit and could be a reason for not giving you the correct reading. I just got mine replaced 2 weeks ago.

I bitched about it a year or two ago, people think I am on crack. They are more concerned about the stupid oil temp

shadoquad 05-05-2012 03:59 PM

Sux bro. Sry to hear.

kenchan 05-05-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1705547)
I wasn't driving the Prius, can't do 170......

:icon17: gl on the fix. :)

cossie1600 05-05-2012 04:15 PM

Credit to the people who took the time to document the pump. You can see a difference between the 350 and the 370 pump.

The way the cup is design, it simply doesn't hold enough gas and it is very hard to refill

http://cj-motorsports.com/img/370p1.jpg

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f..._fuel_pump.jpg

This is how you fix it cheaply

http://www.extremeoffroadgear.com/im...721395356.jpeg

onzedge 05-05-2012 04:38 PM

:tup:

NYBladeZ 05-05-2012 05:46 PM

hmmm, first time I've heard of this issue occur on the street its a well known issue for track drivers. Of course up to this point, having it be a "track" issue doesn't help giving Nissan a reason to fix this. If you had enough fuel I think you would have fired up with a jump. This happen to me once and even after refueling it didn't crank over, a quick jump from the boost box and it was good to go.

Bucketlist2012 05-05-2012 06:39 PM

When someone gets rear ended due to fuel starvation, Nissan will get sued and they deserve to be sued...They know about the problem and they just don't care..

I am glad you are ok and nothing happened, but it will someday...

jazz-Z 05-05-2012 07:13 PM

Tally
 
I agree with the poster that said, if fuel starve is a track only issue the chances of getting anything done about it are slim and none. I also agree that if someone gets rear ended as a result of this issue it could mean serious liability issues for Nissan. How many people here have had fuel starve occur on the street and WEREN'T speeding?

Bucketlist2012 05-05-2012 07:19 PM

If enough people FLOOD Nissan with complaints, the paper trail will be easy for any Lawyer to sue for millions if someone is hurt getting rear ended..

They can claim fuel starvation, and Nissan should be liable....You should not have to keep your gas tank full on a modern car...Justifying it, is just trying to justify buying the car..

I never had any issues with my rock solid 350Z..If i have problems with the 370Z, you can bet i will take the loss and move on to another Car,and not a Nissan..

I am going to let my 370Z get low on gas and see if it starves...Then I will document a formal complaint with Nissan if it happens...Absolutely unacceptable...

sonic370 05-05-2012 08:04 PM

sorry to hear about your fuel issue....

i once ran my 09 down to no fuel dots showing,, i know stupid and the yellow
warning light flashed on but i didn't have any problems. except how fast i could find a gas station..........................


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