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11Thumper 04-27-2012 12:45 AM

Love my 7AT. I'm a manual fanboy as well but the 7AT really (and continues to) impressed me. It does have a brain fart every now and then in traffic but mostly flawless so far. I wouldn't change it for anything, especially with my 40 mile (each way) commute to work and back home in rough traffic.

FPenvy 04-28-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1688363)
Love my 7AT. I'm a manual fanboy as well but the 7AT really (and continues to) impressed me. It does have a brain fart every now and then in traffic but mostly flawless so far. I wouldn't change it for anything, especially with my 40 mile (each way) commute to work and back home in rough traffic.

I feel u on the commuting part. Mine is about 25 miles. In the morning drive when I'm barely awake it's def nice to have the option of just putting it in drive and go lol

LakeShow 04-28-2012 06:27 PM

I love the 7AT. I have based my life on getting 3-4 hours of sleep a night and when I'm driving early in the morning I have no patience for anything. Plus I can barely keep my eyes open in the morning cause I'm so tired so if I had the 6MT I would probably putting in the wrong gears lol. I do a good 40-50 miles a day. :tup:

sv nismo 04-28-2012 06:28 PM

Wish they made a 7MT NISMO!:rofl2:
Seriously, I test drove a 7AT and the Nismo.... The automatic has some true advantages for a DD and as mentioned kicks butt in the low end, even grabs rubber on the 1-2 shift. But I knew I was only going to driving my Z on the weekends..... and the Nismo is just Hot... and the 6MT just makes if fun to drive.... but if they made a NISMO with an auto tranny I would definitely consider it if I ever decided to trade mine in.

LakeShow 04-28-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sv nismo (Post 1691564)
Wish they made a 7MT NISMO!:rofl2:
Seriously, I test drove a 7AT and the Nismo.... The automatic has some true advantages for a DD and as mentioned kicks butt in the low end, even grabs rubber on the 1-2 shift. But I knew I was only going to driving my Z on the weekends..... and the Nismo is just Hot... and the 6MT just makes if fun to drive.... but if they made a NISMO with an auto tranny I would definitely consider it if I ever decided to trade mine in.

+1 :iagree:. I believe they make the 7AT in Japan only with the Touring plus Nav packages. I love the Nismo but interior and 6MT wasn't doing it for me. I believe if the offered the touring/Nav and/or the 7AT the Nismo would even be a better seller in the states IMO.

Z eliminator 04-28-2012 07:52 PM

I have the 7 AT with 4.08 gears.
the car is really quick.

FPenvy 04-28-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sv nismo (Post 1691564)
Wish they made a 7MT NISMO!:rofl2:
Seriously, I test drove a 7AT and the Nismo.... The automatic has some true advantages for a DD and as mentioned kicks butt in the low end, even grabs rubber on the 1-2 shift. But I knew I was only going to driving my Z on the weekends..... and the Nismo is just Hot... and the 6MT just makes if fun to drive.... but if they made a NISMO with an auto tranny I would definitely consider it if I ever decided to trade mine in.

When I do hit the drag strip I have spun tire on launch, 2nd and on occasion 3rd pending on track temp with my 7at. I have beaten a 6mt straight up stock vs stock.

sonic370 04-28-2012 08:10 PM

both have their pros and cons nice to see this didn't turn into a heated debate..
imo box gear boxes don't take a back seat to any car in it's price range....

i would like to hear from anyone who has owned or driven a auto camaro or mustang.... how do they stack up to the 370 AT. do they come with or without paddles 6 or 7 speed etc.....................

UNKNOWN_370 04-28-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1691655)
both have their pros and cons nice to see this didn't turn into a heated debate..
imo box gear boxes don't take a back seat to any car in it's price range....

i would like to hear from anyone who has owned or driven a auto camaro or mustang.... how do they stack up to the 370 AT. do they come with or without paddles 6 or 7 speed etc.....................


I have driven the camaro SS and mustang auto. The 12 and below on the mustangs don't shift but gear ratios are perfect and when you slam on the gas, that **** goes. But no option to row your own makes it boring in some cases. Handling is superior to a camaro and it feels lighter in the corners so maneuverabilty is superior to the camaro... BUT
The camaro let's you row your own. Torque feels better in a camaro and its just overall a more fun car to drive. I think if it was 300lbs lighter it would be superior to a stang but GM fked up on weight. You really feel the heft. And even though the width makes the car look great. The camaro is to wide to feel completely confident in 90 degree turns, so the stang definately eats it there. In my opinion though, the Z kills them both in handling but lack of torque takes something away. But neither car inspire the same confidence turn for turn as a Z. If the mustang auto came in BOSS guise? I think the Z would just lose to an auto stang in every aspect of performance.
So the Z fills a gap that the other two cannot or vice versa depending on your drive style and what you want in a car. Overall, all are extremely great cars.
Transmissions score on the auto...
1st place goes to the Z
2nd place to the camaro and is very close to the Z. But the camaro shifts slower than the Z
3rd is the mustang only because there is no option to row your own.
Even on the 13 stang I couldn't give it higher. Not because I have driven it. But because shifts are done via button on the shifter. And the mustang won't redline in manual mode. :( that automatically would take away from the experience. But I think 2014 will bring something different in the mustang auto. They evolve faster than any other company thus far in the past 4 years.

m4a1mustang 04-28-2012 10:42 PM

Next Gen gets the DCT and flappy paddles.

shaun66 04-28-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1691908)
Next Gen gets the DCT and flappy paddles.

wuuut. Nissan has to step up next gen..

m4a1mustang 04-28-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun66 (Post 1691912)
wuuut. Nissan has to step up next gen..

CVT :stirthepot:

UNKNOWN_370 04-28-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1691908)
Next Gen gets the DCT and flappy paddles.


I figured they would. Shyt not for nothing, I'm not a fan of driving highly massed produced sports cars, but if the do a 302 style car with that style dct. I might just get a stang instead of a next gen Z or used GT-R. That's just nuckin futz.

wilsonp 04-28-2012 11:52 PM

One of the advantages of the Nissan 7AT is it is full and aggressive lockup in every gear but first, so the torque converter actually doesn't cause losses versus the manual.

My torque in gears charts seem to show the 7AT has more effective torque due to gearing from 1-4, only in 5th does the 6MT have more effective torque. I'd expect the 6MT to make up groused over 125MPH and comparing the Car and Driver 6MT test and 7AT tests see to bear that out. The 6MT goes from .9 seconds behind at 120 to .2 seconds behind at 140 MPH.

Nissan really designed both transmissions very carefully.

UNKNOWN_370 04-29-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp (Post 1691997)
One of the advantages of the Nissan 7AT is it is full and aggressive lockup in every gear but first, so the torque converter actually doesn't cause losses versus the manual.

My torque in gears charts seem to show the 7AT has more effective torque due to gearing from 1-4, only in 5th does the 6MT have more effective torque. I'd expect the 6MT to make up groused over 125MPH and comparing the Car and Driver 6MT test and 7AT tests see to bear that out. The 6MT goes from .9 seconds behind at 120 to .2 seconds behind at 140 MPH.

Nissan really designed both transmissions very carefully.

That's why I don't really understand it when they bash the AT. I've never felt anything this good with a torque converter.


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