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freddiebear 06-09-2009 11:20 AM

Engine Oil Coolers
 
I understand that the 370Z needs a engine oil cooler. How expensive are they to have put on (parts & labor)?

MightyBobo 06-09-2009 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by freddiebear (Post 87616)
I understand that the 370Z needs a engine oil cooler. How expensive are they to have put on (parts & labor)?

I think about $600 is a fair bet, including labor.

Modshack 06-09-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by freddiebear (Post 87616)
I understand that the 370Z needs a engine oil cooler. How expensive are they to have put on (parts & labor)?

99% won't ever "Need" one, but it's a nice to do for those who "May" experience high temps..

How-to with prices in my Sig..DIY for less than $300

xiven 06-09-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 87630)
99% won't ever "Need" one, but it's a nice to do for those who "May" experience high temps..

How-to with prices in my Sig..DIY for less than $300

And how much if we want you to help us with the install? :tup:

semtex 06-09-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 87640)
And how much if we want you to help us with the install? :tup:

What part of Atlanta are you in? I can refer you to my mechanic if you need me to.

Modshack 06-09-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 87640)
And how much if we want you to help us with the install? :tup:

Figure 3-4 hours at whatever the going rate is in your area...

I'm a long way from Atlanta!

xiven 06-09-2009 12:07 PM

NE Atl, close to Gwinnett

xiven 06-09-2009 12:08 PM

oh wow...i didn't realize you were close to the coast. ya thats a bit of a hike from atlanta.

semtex 06-09-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 87652)
NE Atl, close to Gwinnett

I'm in Gwinnett, and so is my mechanic.

xiven 06-09-2009 12:14 PM

who do u use?

semtex 06-09-2009 12:19 PM

The guy I use is a personal friend who used to have his own shop, but now works freelance. PM me if you want his name and number. I need to make sure he's cool with it before I give it to you too.

Modshack 06-09-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 87654)
oh wow...i didn't realize you were close to the coast. ya thats a bit of a hike from atlanta.

;) The Greenville's often get mixed up! Sounds like Semtex has you hooked up..:tup:

xiven 06-09-2009 12:26 PM

Thats cool. I'll pm for that info if and when I do that. I live in the same complex as bullitt5897. So I'm sure we are not too far from you.

CBRich 06-09-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack
The Greenville's often get mixed up!

Yep, I'm just about sick of these people posing like they're from the real Greenville. Greenville, SC.:p

Modshack 06-09-2009 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 87696)
Yep, I'm just about sick of these people posing like they're from the real Greenville. Greenville, SC.:p

LOL...You'd be amazed how many people get on the wrong commuter planes out of Charlotte....:-)

kannibul 06-09-2009 02:06 PM

How does one determine if they need one?

Oklahoma gets hot in summer...I've topped 230F pretty easily...

Modshack 06-09-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 87727)
How does one determine if they need one?

Oklahoma gets hot in summer...I've topped 230F pretty easily...

At 230 I wouldn't worry about it. I had to work my car pretty hard to even get to 245...If you consistently see 260-280 due to your driving style or usage I'd go with a cooler..

MightyBobo 06-09-2009 02:48 PM

Rofls. People hear "oil overheating" and they are assuming this will happen in normal driving situations, regardless of temperature?

SoCal 370Z 06-09-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freddiebear (Post 87616)
I understand that the 370Z needs a engine oil cooler. How expensive are they to have put on (parts & labor)?

Before you install an oil cooler you should consider the following:
  1. Factory warranty or factory extended warranty ramifications.
  2. Consider having your Nissan dealer install the Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler, part no. 21300-SS370.
  3. If you are not one who can wrench it will be much harder to remove the oil cooler should the oil cooler, and its installation, be considered a violation of your factory Nissan warranty. A competent mechanic can discern whether an aftermarket product has been installed or not.

kannibul 06-09-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 87756)
Rofls. People hear "oil overheating" and they are assuming this will happen in normal driving situations, regardless of temperature?

No, in my case, I don't know how hot oil should be "allowed" to get...

What's the "smoke point" of engine oil...?

Sharif@Forged 06-09-2009 04:31 PM

You'd be surprised how many people really do need an oil cooler. Hard canyon driving in hot weather puts the oil temps into the danger zone.

Track days?? Forget about it. Good drivers will have the 370Z into limp mode in a just 3-4 laps at some tighter tracks.

If you daily drive your car, and with no tracking or aggressive driving, then an oil cooler would be unnecssary.

I am really surprised Nissan missed the boat on this. THe 350Z has better oil temp behavior than the 370Z, surprisingly.

Most shops should charge about 3-4 hours.

IDZRVIT 06-09-2009 04:34 PM

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No, in my case, I don't know how hot oil should be "allowed" to get...
Nissan says 280. I will assume their engineers determined this temperature because of the advances in todays materials technology, oil lubricity properties and the gazzillion dollars Nissan has invested in their testing facilities to develop a state-of-the-art high performance engine for street use or they asked the receptionist at Nissan headquarters to pick a number between 250 and 300.

FricFrac 06-09-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 87822)
You'd be surprised how many people really do need an oil cooler. Hard canyon driving in hot weather puts the oil temps into the danger zone.

Track days?? Forget about it. Good drivers will have the 370Z into limp mode in a just 3-4 laps at some tighter tracks.

If you daily drive your car, and with no tracking or aggressive driving, then an oil cooler would be unnecssary.

I am really surprised Nissan missed the boat on this. THe 350Z has better oil temp behavior than the 370Z, surprisingly.

Most shops should charge about 3-4 hours.

I've seen musings of what the average oil temp on the 350Z would be - do we have an actual number?

ChrisSlicks 06-09-2009 05:02 PM

The smoke point of synthetic oil is well over 400F when new, however this temperature lowers as the oil becomes contaminated with age, at end of life it could be just above 300F. So it's really not a problem for most people, just stick to quality synthetic oil.

If you're into HPDE track days, a cooler is mandatory to keep to car out of limp mode.

CBRich 06-09-2009 08:29 PM

I drove my Z fairly hard on the street tonight in over 80 degree weather and barely made it to 220. You really do have to be canyon carving or on the track to be worried about this.

MightyBobo 06-09-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 87843)
The smoke point of synthetic oil is well over 400F when new, however this temperature lowers as the oil becomes contaminated with age, at end of life it could be just above 300F. So it's really not a problem for most people, just stick to quality synthetic oil.

If you're into HPDE track days, a cooler is mandatory to keep to car out of limp mode.

Just for reference, my Mobil 1 in my truck had about 6000 miles on it, and its flashpoint was still around 400 according to Blackstone labs.

ChrisSlicks 06-09-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 88041)
Just for reference, my Mobil 1 in my truck had about 6000 miles on it, and its flashpoint was still around 400 according to Blackstone labs.

It's all in how it is driven. 6000 easy highway miles with synthetic and it will come out in good shape, probably could even stretch to 10000 if it is almost all highway. But do 3000 hard miles with a track day or 2 and it will beat the hell out of your oil. It is a good idea to get your oil analyzed once or twice to see what your driving style is doing to the oil.

MightyBobo 06-09-2009 10:06 PM

Oh I know, I was just pointing out that its worthy to note and some slight proof that normal driving wont do much at all to your oil. I also found it funny that Blackstone said my motor is still breaking in at 13000 miles - how's THAT for blowing your mind? :) haha


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