Hot oil = good!

P.S. The '12s do come with an oil cooler........its just a tiny little sandwhich plate that runs the coolant past the filter to help cool oil but its still no where near enough for anything extra. It'll get you through normal daily driving and very minor spirited driving. Extended periods of spirited driving and it still overheats. Just takes a little longer. I know........i have a '12 too lol and yes diddy, you can run the oem cooler with an aftermarket![/QUOTE]

Like that idea....
I think I'm go for the 19" rows by Z1 motorsport with non thermostatic.
Is rare that i get too crazy with my car, so i was wondering whenever i do my oil still may overheat but it will take longer to overheat than the usual. and I'm fine with that. i just don't want any problems with my motor later on.
uughh

I see you live in NYC, but the temp here in Houston, TX is completely different & gets a lot hotter here in the summer due to the humidity. In the end it really just depends on how you are going to drive your car. Yes if one was to drive all effen day & drive hard & go through 1 1/2 full tanks of gas, then your oil temp will get high, but not over heat like a SOB. If your oil temp was to get in the high 200's or low 300's, then I would worry. I can drive for about 40 mins on the highway & be in 6th gear & my oil temp is b/w 180-190 due to the crazy humidity here in Houston.

yeah like i said, the oil temp is always ok around 180s-200sF. but that one day i drove the entire day, high revs and even raced on the highway. i looked at the oil gauge and noticed the needle all the way up there so i worried. summer is right around the corner so that thing will explode if i do not take care, i guess lol.
i think i drive crazy like i did that one day at least once a week. but i will want to do a few mods to the car (nothing too crazy) and i figure it will help to raise the oil temp. I'm guessing an oil cooler would be a good investment.

I can see where your coming from & I think most people would be in the same boat as you. It is not going to explode. Once you start to worry, then stop to realize how you as an individual was driving today & how long. If this happens once in a very blue moon, then I personally wouldn't worry about it.

220 has been the highest I've been able to get to (2012 AT in manual mode) with 8+ hours on non-stop spirited driving through the hill country of central TX. Once it reaches that, it soon drops back down to 190-200 on the straightaways @ lower rpms. The stock OC in the '12s works just fine. Like others have said, start to worry when you get up to 260+. Other than that, have fun with your car!

I got a 12 as well and tracked it about 7 times from nov-march without an oil cooler. Even when pushing hard up to 80deg out, oil temp never went over 250's. I installed a 34 row from Z1 motorsports, now on a hot day at the track around 90's, engine oil temp will still reach 250s due to heat. On highway driving, oil never gets past 150ish unless traffic.

You do not need another oil cooler unless you are tracking. Driving the car hard, canyon driving etc, should not get your oil past 250's. Just remember after 2-3 track days hitting 250's, the oil is very dirty and will need to be changed OFTEN. So even if you stick with the stock cooler and u do hard runs, change your oil often.

plain and simple, everyone has different thoughts and what not. None are necessarily right or wrong. i PERSONALLY do not like my oil temp goin over 220. Just something that i am use to coming from turbo hondas and what not. Some people are fine with 250's but i am not one of those even though it technically may be ok. But anyways Diddy, you will be fine with the 19 row with your driving and what you plan for now. You don't need an thermostat plate for a 19 row since you have the o.e.m cooler that will get our temps to where we need without overheating it or running too cool. Nice thing about havin the oem cooler is that our temps are more constant due to the coolant. :happydance:

Sounds like the 2012 oil cooler works pretty good. 1st day I had my Z, sitting in traffic on a 90 degree day and it went straight to 260. During the winter it's been sitting between 200 and 220. Mellew (2nd gear, 3000-4500 RPM) drive up a mountain road on a 60 degree rainy day brought it back up to 260. Working on my own take on an oil cooler that does not leave 1 qt of dirty oil in the engine every oil change. I really hope it works... LOL

I am waiting for engine blowups due to hot oil. Dang it, I want to see blown engines!

Yet another example on why they should just remove the oil temp gauge.

Don't jinx yourself lol, yours will be the first to blow.

Then I can tell people how useless oil cooler is as cars will blpw with or wo it

+1....... :icon18: No love from cossie1600. I wouldn't want that to happen to someone else. All of these vehicles are pretty much NA. Yeah if vehicle is heavily modified (TT, supercharger, NOS & etc.....), then you have a high risk of something happening. In the end to each is own on what they would like to have their oil temp at & it also depends on where exactly you live do to the effen weather/humidity.

True...... You can say whatever you want. Whatever is going to happen is going to happen eventually at some point in time to your ride. Now if you take care of it & do not drive it through hell & back & change things when your suppose to, then your ride should last you a very long time.