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munz 04-20-2012 02:51 AM

2010 370Z Engine Lubricant etc...
 
Hi All,

Just bought my first Z, 40th Anniversary edition and just got it serviced. Was wondering what kind of engine lubricant to use, I bought some Nulon Long Term 80,000kms engine treatment...won't do any harm would it? Also not too familiar with the fuel injection system and whether there would be any benefit in using a cleaner. The car's only driven 5,500km so it's practicallly brand new...i'd like to keep it that way. Suggestions would be great, thanks in advance.

ChrisSlicks 04-20-2012 06:54 AM

Don't use any of those snake oil engine treatments! At best they don't work, at worst they could accumulate in the wrong place and damage your engine and void your warranty.

To point out how bad this particular product is, they were banned from selling the USA due to unverifiable claims. Usually you can sell any kind of snake oil here! Heck take some multi-vitamins and relabel as "male enhancement" pills and you can make millions! :)

munz 04-20-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1675155)
Don't use any of those snake oil engine treatments! At best they don't work, at worst they could accumulate in the wrong place and damage your engine and void your warranty.

To point out how bad this particular product is, they were banned from selling the USA due to unverifiable claims. Usually you can sell any kind of snake oil here! Heck take some multi-vitamins and relabel as "male enhancement" pills and you can make millions! :)

thanks chris, i wish i'd read your post sooner as i just added the lubricant, but i haven't done anything else...just added it to the engine oil which was changed during the service yesterday. is there anything i can do now other than hope and pray i haven't screwed anything up?

LakeShow 04-20-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1675155)
Don't use any of those snake oil engine treatments! At best they don't work, at worst they could accumulate in the wrong place and damage your engine and void your warranty.

To point out how bad this particular product is, they were banned from selling the USA due to unverifiable claims. Usually you can sell any kind of snake oil here! Heck take some multi-vitamins and relabel as "male enhancement" pills and you can make millions! :)

:iagree: don't do it.

munz 04-20-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1675679)
:iagree: don't do it.

i added the nulon before i saw your posts. :( i had no idea they could be so harmful, never considered them accumulating...having said that the climate here on the gold coast is quite warm, any chance that might be positive? if not what can i do to fix it? another oil change or just leave it be? :confused:

MacLean 04-20-2012 03:08 PM

I have never heard of this snake stuff & I wouldn't use a damn thing.

ChrisSlicks 04-20-2012 07:35 PM

All you can do is change your oil to get rid of it, after a couple of oil changes it should be all gone. I wouldn't be hitting the track with that stuff in there, high temps can turn PTFE into a very nasty substance. Fortunately there probably isn't that much in there so you should be safe.

munz 04-20-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1676544)
All you can do is change your oil to get rid of it, after a couple of oil changes it should be all gone. I wouldn't be hitting the track with that stuff in there, high temps can turn PTFE into a very nasty substance. Fortunately there probably isn't that much in there so you should be safe.

thank you chris, i've made an appointment for oil and filter change, unfortunately they haven't got anything available for another 10 days so i'll drive as little as possible till then. kicking myself for this now :(

ChrisSlicks 04-20-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1676607)
thank you chris, i've made an appointment for oil and filter change, unfortunately they haven't got anything available for another 10 days so i'll drive as little as possible till then. kicking myself for this now :(

Well it's in there now so I wouldn't freak out. Just drive your 5000 km and do an oil change as normal. How many miles do you have on the car?

bvl 04-20-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1676607)
thank you chris, i've made an appointment for oil and filter change, unfortunately they haven't got anything available for another 10 days so i'll drive as little as possible till then. kicking myself for this now :(

No midas/pep boys/etc...around? If you want to change it change it. Otherwise don't worry and change at next scheduled interval.

I personally would just drop the oil with 5 qt of fresh. Filter holds very little.

- b

XwChriswX 04-20-2012 09:39 PM

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munz 04-20-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1676620)
Well it's in there now so I wouldn't freak out. Just drive your 5000 km and do an oil change as normal. How many miles do you have on the car?

it's only driven 5800km, i just serviced it on thursday, added the nulon friday and realized it was a very bad idea when i saw the responses here. i figured i'd take it back to nissan as opposed to any mechanic (midas/pep boys/etc). i know an oil change is simple and straightforward, so maybe the sooner the better, but i'd have to call on Monday to find out.

i spent money on the stupid nulon to begin with, but if necessary i'd prefer to spend the money and fix the problem as best i can :(

also what petrol should i be using? premium 95, premium 98? i figured 98 is a cleaner burning fuel, but i was dead wrong about the nulon so thought i'd check this too.

and yes chrisw, new here and very concerned so i thought i'd make this thread to get some input as i'm new to all this, everyone's comments are much much appreciated, thank you.

munz 04-20-2012 11:19 PM

also in case i do take it to another mechanic to get the oil change done, what oil to i tell them to top it up with?

anthonyy 04-20-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1676705)

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fuzzywuzzy 04-21-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1676835)
also in case i do take it to another mechanic to get the oil change done, what oil to i tell them to top it up with?


Buy Redline 5w30. Bring it with you and pay them for "their" oil change and have them use your oil.

XwChriswX 04-21-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1676827)
and yes chrisw, new here and very concerned so i thought i'd make this thread to get some input as i'm new to all this, everyone's comments are much much appreciated, thank you.

Then please just as a for future reference, use the search feature, or just take a peek in the Engine section of the forum at the hundreds of Oil threads that will answer your question completely. :tiphat:

munz 04-21-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1676900)
Then please just as a for future reference, use the search feature, or just take a peek in the Engine section of the forum at the hundreds of Oil threads that will answer your question completely. :tiphat:

yes lesson learned, thank you

XwChriswX 04-21-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1676975)
yes lesson learned, thank you

:tup:

munz 04-21-2012 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy (Post 1676896)
Buy Redline 5w30. Bring it with you and pay them for "their" oil change and have them use your oil.

sounds good

i took a look at this thread:

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...es-inside.html

the nissan dealer recommended changing the oil filter as well. should i do that and is there anything else? my mate wants to come see the car but i'm afraid to drive even low revs after this episode.

EazyD 04-21-2012 02:10 AM

Read your manual, too. It tells you all of the recommended maintenance

don't tell Nissan about any oil additives you use; if something goes wrong with the engine, they could blame it on that if they wanted to.

Chan Chee Hoe 04-21-2012 02:49 AM

I wonder your country got Shell V-power.?If not use any good brand 98 octane is good enough.

munz 04-21-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EazyD (Post 1677013)
Read your manual, too. It tells you all of the recommended maintenance

don't tell Nissan about any oil additives you use; if something goes wrong with the engine, they could blame it on that if they wanted to.

thank you, i will. i won't be able to take the car in for a few days at least, so can i still cruise around or should i not start the car until i take it in for the oil change?

munz 04-21-2012 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 1677024)
I wonder your country got Shell V-power.?If not use any good brand 98 octane is good enough.

i'm not sure, i think i might have seen it so i'll have a look thanks :tup:

very keen to take the car for a drive (have things to do etc) my only concern now is what to do between now and getting the oil changed. should i not drive at all, or just not drive at high revs (i'm assuming the accumulation takes time)?

bvl 04-21-2012 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1677027)
i'm not sure, i think i might have seen it so i'll have a look thanks :tup:

very keen to take the car for a drive (have things to do etc) my only concern now is what to do between now and getting the oil changed. should i not drive at all, or just not drive at high revs (i'm assuming the accumulation takes time)?

The internet is good but its also very very bad. Its easy to get all worked up over nothing over *any* topic there is a forum for :tiphat:

Relax. Take a breath. The car is not ruined. As a few posters have stated, you can just drive the car change the oil after 5K if you like. If you want more peace of mind, just drop the oil tomorrow at any local mechanic/shop and have them put in 5 quarts of 5/30 regular oil. There is no need to wait 2 weeks was my point.

If you want to run synthetic oil in your car all the time, or Nissan ester oil, that is your choice but there are tons of oil threads here that you can read up on.

More important then what brand oil you run is the simple fact that you change it at regular intervals. I follow the factory schedule while under warranty, and off warranty I use synthetic with a more reasonable extended service interval backed up by analysis results of the oil.

The Z's schedule is very conservative.

- b

munz 04-21-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bvl (Post 1677066)
The internet is good but its also very very bad. Its easy to get all worked up over nothing over *any* topic there is a forum for :tiphat:

Relax. Take a breath. The car is not ruined. As a few posters have stated, you can just drive the car change the oil after 5K if you like. If you want more peace of mind, just drop the oil tomorrow at any local mechanic/shop and have them put in 5 quarts of 5/30 regular oil. There is no need to wait 2 weeks was my point.

If you want to run synthetic oil in your car all the time, or Nissan ester oil, that is your choice but there are tons of oil threads here that you can read up on.

More important then what brand oil you run is the simple fact that you change it at regular intervals. I follow the factory schedule while under warranty, and off warranty I use synthetic with a more reasonable extended service interval backed up by analysis results of the oil.

The Z's schedule is very conservative.

- b

thanks bvl so much for taking the time to explain that. much appreciated, i will see if i can a) find a mechanic asap for the said peace of mind and b) find a place to purchase the said oil. again much appreciated everyone.

USMCASA 04-21-2012 07:07 AM

ibtl

ChrisSlicks 04-21-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1676827)
it's only driven 5800km, i just serviced it on thursday, added the nulon friday and realized it was a very bad idea when i saw the responses here. i figured i'd take it back to nissan as opposed to any mechanic (midas/pep boys/etc). i know an oil change is simple and straightforward, so maybe the sooner the better, but i'd have to call on Monday to find out.

i spent money on the stupid nulon to begin with, but if necessary i'd prefer to spend the money and fix the problem as best i can :(

also what petrol should i be using? premium 95, premium 98? i figured 98 is a cleaner burning fuel, but i was dead wrong about the nulon so thought i'd check this too.

and yes chrisw, new here and very concerned so i thought i'd make this thread to get some input as i'm new to all this, everyone's comments are much much appreciated, thank you.

Don't worry, one application isn't going to do any damage, you would have to keep adding the stuff every oil change before there was a problem. Most of it is probably already safely inside your oil filter :)

As for fuel, 95 RON (equivalent of 91 AKI) is the minimum you can safely run, but you can potentially get better performance with 97/98 RON (equivalent of 93/94 AKI in the US).

sonic370 04-21-2012 09:05 PM

your ok just get it out of there. all you need is a good brand oil and filter
and your set. oh and check your oil every fill up...

plus if i was you and my dealer told me i had to wait 10 days for an oil change
i would either change dealers or learn how to do it myself

munz 04-23-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1678203)
your ok just get it out of there. all you need is a good brand oil and filter
and your set. oh and check your oil every fill up...

plus if i was you and my dealer told me i had to wait 10 days for an oil change
i would either change dealers or learn how to do it myself

yup, will do as soon as i get time in the day to take the car over. much appreciated :tup:

munz 04-29-2012 09:08 AM

just a quick update, couldn't find the K&N oil filter but will be replacing the engine oil and oil filter with this performance magnetic oil filter, i was told by the people at autobarn that's just as good for a car driven 6k? although the 350Z is listed as being compatible, i'm assuming the list is probably dated since the sales rep at autobarn confirmed it'll work with the 370Z?

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4...g0762bc.th.jpg

http://www.overboost-motorsports.com...ct-575862.html

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6...g0761ou.th.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1...g0760jt.th.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4...g0759ob.th.jpg

The guy over at Nissan said he'll flush the engine before the oil change. I'm assuming that's standard and shouldn't be a problem, however I had heard that flushing also does more harm than good. I didn't ask for the flush, the service person at Nissan suggested it so what's the go? Should I just tell him to change the oil and not flush? I've got just over 5.5 liters of redline 5W30 ready to go.

ChrisSlicks 04-29-2012 09:20 AM

It seems to be a popular brand in Australia but I don't know much about it as it isn't sold anywhere else that I'm aware of. You can search for dissections on bobistheoilguy.com, you might find it is a rebrand of something else.

munz 04-29-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1692230)
It seems to be a popular brand in Australia but I don't know much about it as it isn't sold anywhere else that I'm aware of. You can search for dissections on bobistheoilguy.com, you might find it is a rebrand of something else.

thanks chris, also updated my last post and wanted to confirm whether the flush nissan recommended is necessary? i'll steer clear of it if there's a chance it'll do more harm than good.

ChrisSlicks 04-29-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by munz (Post 1692292)
thanks chris, also updated my last post and wanted to confirm whether the flush nissan recommended is necessary? i'll steer clear of it if there's a chance it'll do more harm than good.

Probably unnecessary. There isn't any easy way to do a pressurized flush of the oil system so they probably would just run through an extra 5 quarts of oil, run the engine for a bit and then drain it back out. It's not like you fill the engine with sulfuric acid or anything.

munz 04-29-2012 04:19 PM

fair enough, in that case i'll just ask them to drain the oil and save time by replacing it with the good stuff :tup:

Bagherra 05-02-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy (Post 1676896)
Buy Redline 5w30. Bring it with you and pay them for "their" oil change and have them use your oil.

Unless you watch them put your oil in, how are you to know if the mechanic doesn't keep yours.

Why not do your own oil change, at least you know you did it right.


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