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NYBladeZ 04-17-2012 09:04 PM

I agree almost entirely but Nissan needs to resolve the oil heat issues. Buyers should not have to throw down $500-$600 to be able to flog their cars to their heart's desire.

UNKNOWN_370 04-17-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1670164)
I agree almost entirely but Nissan needs to resolve the oil heat issues. Buyers should not have to throw down $500-$600 to be able to flog their cars to their heart's desire.

That I can agree with 100%. If it was a known issue off the bat in 09? It should have been resolved on the 10 model year. And they had to have known after all this time that the 12 cooler would only be good to keep the car cool in traffic jams. It is Nissan's second biggest failure. The biggest was the brake cooling issue. But there have been brake cooling issues since the original 240z. I guess they are making safety flaws a tradition???

Anyway, pardon the non-aspirated. Its naturally-aspirated. I'm actually just have flu, allergies and running a mild temp. As far as Ken feeling ignored... lol it doesn't really bother me what you said. You caught my flaw. Cool. There's just a couple of guys on here that will remain nameless that always seem to swing on mine hard on any little post. So my hostility showed. From a couple of guys on here its just reached corny status how they always appear to mock any comment I make which may be flawed. Then you get the one or two extra jock riders coming and joining in. I know who jokes and who's trying to be an azz.

Anyway back to topic. The z isnt without flaws and mods are expensive. But I honestly feel this car is worth taking my time and getting it right. If a turbo Z comes out? I will get one, but I won't trade the Z34. It may be only be a potential collectible to most. But for me its an instant classic. Talk about perfect evolution when you see a 240z and 370z next to each other.

onzedge 04-17-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1670216)
That I can agree with 100%. If it was a known issue off the bat in 09? It should have been resolved on the 10 model year. And they had to have known after all this time that the 12 cooler would only be good to keep the car cool in traffic jams. It is Nissan's second biggest failure. The biggest was the brake cooling issue. But there have been brake cooling issues since the original 240z. I guess they are making safety flaws a tradition???

Anyway, pardon the non-aspirated. Its naturally-aspirated. I'm actually just have flu, allergies and running a mild temp. As far as Ken feeling ignored... lol it doesn't really bother me what you said. You caught my flaw. Cool. There's just a couple of guys on here that will remain nameless that always seem to swing on mine hard on any little post. So my hostility showed. From a couple of guys on here its just reached corny status how they always appear to mock any comment I make which may be flawed. Then you get the one or two extra jock riders coming and joining in. I know who jokes and who's trying to be an azz.

Anyway back to topic. The z isnt without flaws and mods are expensive. But I honestly feel this car is worth taking my time and getting it right. If a turbo Z comes out? I will get one, but I won't trade the Z34. It may be only be a potential collectible to most. But for me its an instant classic. Talk about perfect evolution when you see a 240z and 370z next to each other.

Like I see in my driveway behind my house:

http://www.the370z.com/members/onzed...4-100-0911.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/onzed...2-100-0914.jpg

UNKNOWN_370 04-17-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1670319)

I'm f*ckin' jealous!
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

And how sick is the juke! :tup:

Mt Tam I am 04-17-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1667942)
................ Now that doesn't mean that the car isn't fast, the balance considerable lightweight design help a lot. However, with that said, the Z will not catch an M3, a tuned Cayman S, a tune 135i/1M etc. etc. etc. Those wanting to be Street King, go forced induction but be ready to pony up $$$$.

............ :tiphat:

The Z has a lot of power, but gets passed by M3's, is all true. What will you replace it with? A Porsche GT3 may be up your alley. :tiphat:

KillerBee370 04-17-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1668752)
I think it's unrealistic to expect big bolt-on gains out of an N/A 3.7L V6. IMO, going from ~270whp stock to over 315 whp with bolt-ons is pretty strong from a motor this size.

If you really expect anything significantly beyond that you're just kidding yourself and should be getting a pushrod V8 (read: LS series) instead.

This. I think it's enrealistic for any N/A car for that matter. I too sold my Z with every bolt on and putting down 315 rwhp seemed pretty good for what it was. In fact it was a big improvement especially with a tune and improved throttle response. (of course having coilovers spec'd up nice n tight made it feel much snappier)

I'm in an M3 now and it's the same story. I'm not going to get much more than about the same gains (as the Z) with bolt on's. It is starting from a much stronger point but the overall gain at the end of the day is probably equal (+50 hp) with full bolt ons. I won't lie... it's a different car alright but you know, that comes at a co$t.

I miss my Z for what it was and would absolutely recommend one to anybody. It's still the most bang for the buck although it's getting some pretty stiff competition coming out.

DLSTR 04-18-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1669880)
This thread is all subjective blah blah blah...I had enough after "there are two classes of Z owners". Gimme a break.

+1. I see no class of Z owner. I see owners doing and driving what they want. The OP should have realized after a test drive the car was not a Vette or any other car that he feels is faster in a straight line.

Im in Germany and actually get to drive fast on a routine basis, If I want to see the the gas gauge move rapidly. I can also enjoy the car in a dynamic environment as well(think Nurburgring).

If makes me laugh when I see somone turning a sportcar into top fuel dragster. Making it anything but what it was out of the box. A car for driving and enjoying in a dynamic environment. The US does not lack cars for going fast for 12 seconds in a straight line.

As far as mods go - in the US you are making alot of people rich to go 70mph in car that will double that in stock form. Save your money for good electronics, fun travel or retirement.

Its a free country and we can do what we want, but its quite funny to see the rationale that the Z needs so much work after Nissan made it more than formidable.

On the Autobahn a Cayman isnt pushing me out of the left lane. Trust me. Its the 3 liter + Audi wagons LOL! Or the guy in the twin turbo 911 who is owning the left lane!

I watched a German auto test show and they tested the Audi TT-S vs the 370Z and the hosts/testers all picked it hands down! This car is superb.:hello:

RUFFSTUFF 04-18-2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 1670503)
As far as mods go - in the US you are making alot of people rich to go 70mph in car that will double that in stock form. Save your money for good electronics, fun travel or retirement.


Quote of the Week.

///PureSwank 04-18-2012 03:06 AM

I own a blacked out naturally aspirated v8 7.0l ls7 427 small block c6 z06 dishing out 620rwhp all motor. Power is ridiculously......violent. I just purchased a 370z.

Truth is, you can't expect to much from a 3.7l V6 as you would from a V8 period. The motor is limited in size and bolt ons won't help out to much due to the displacement. I bought the 370z because its got an interior that's light years better then that of my vette. I paid almost twice the price for the Z06 but thats because of the Block which is a monster. I am actually amazed on how smooth and pull its got for having such a small block. Exterior is really sexy might I add. It wouldn't be fair for the Z to compete against bigger blocks. Forced Induction is its only hope if big power is what is desired. If you wanna compete with bigger faster cars the GTR (Nissans Fans) is where its at. AMS GTR? Game over.

NYBladeZ 04-18-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1670419)
The Z has a lot of power, but gets passed by M3's, is all true. What will you replace it with? A Porsche GT3 may be up your alley. :tiphat:

Porsche GT3! Perhaps but not in my immediate future plus I'm not sure how I feel about Porsche's electronic steering, I'm thinking maybe a Lotus before a Porsche.

UNKNOWN_370 04-18-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 1670653)
I own a blacked out naturally aspirated v8 7.0l ls7 427 small block c6 z06 dishing out 620rwhp all motor. Power is ridiculously......violent. I just purchased a 370z.

Truth is, you can't expect to much from a 3.7l V6 as you would from a V8 period. The motor is limited in size and bolt ons won't help out to much due to the displacement. I bought the 370z because its got an interior that's light years better then that of my vette. I paid almost twice the price for the Z06 but thats because of the Block which is a monster. I am actually amazed on how smooth and pull its got for having such a small block. Exterior is really sexy might I add. It wouldn't be fair for the Z to compete against bigger blocks. Forced Induction is its only hope if big power is what is desired. If you wanna compete with bigger faster cars the GTR (Nissans Fans) is where its at. AMS GTR? Game over.

:iagree:

Let's not forget... we buy the Z for another reason. FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK FEEDBACK. The muscle cars just don't give the same feedback on both street and track the way the Z does. Nor do they give that same level of maneuverability. They don't offer that lightweight feel the Z provides in the small package. And though you can get more feeback from the cancelled S2k and miata. You don't lose a lot but the power gain is tremendous.
I know that BOSS 302 is probably the only car in the Z price range that can match or beat the Z feel. But its just another version of yet another mustang. Though I would buy one. It would one in a stable, not my one and only. The Z still resonates originality that other cars in the price range can't reproduce.

Of course this is just my opinion and purely subjective.

m4a1mustang 04-18-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 1670468)
This. I think it's unrealistic for any N/A car for that matter. I too sold my Z with every bolt on and putting down 315 rwhp seemed pretty good for what it was. In fact it was a big improvement especially with a tune and improved throttle response. (of course having coilovers spec'd up nice n tight made it feel much snappier)

I'm in an M3 now and it's the same story. I'm not going to get much more than about the same gains (as the Z) with bolt on's. It is starting from a much stronger point but the overall gain at the end of the day is probably equal (+50 hp) with full bolt ons. I won't lie... it's a different car alright but you know, that comes at a co$t.

I miss my Z for what it was and would absolutely recommend one to anybody. It's still the most bang for the buck although it's getting some pretty stiff competition coming out.

:iagree:

Even with the 5.0s. We can get to 440whp or so with intake, tune, and full exhaust. Beyond that you need FI. Unless you are OK with shelling out several thousand bucks for cams (510whp), but FI is the best bang for the buck without a doubt. I think that's true for all cars. If you want cost-effective power, go FI. Otherwise realize that bolt-on gains will be limited.

Streetlife 04-18-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 1670653)
I own a blacked out naturally aspirated v8 7.0l ls7 427 small block c6 z06 dishing out 620rwhp all motor. Power is ridiculously......violent. I just purchased a 370z.

Truth is, you can't expect to much from a 3.7l V6 as you would from a V8 period. The motor is limited in size and bolt ons won't help out to much due to the displacement. I bought the 370z because its got an interior that's light years better then that of my vette. I paid almost twice the price for the Z06 but thats because of the Block which is a monster. I am actually amazed on how smooth and pull its got for having such a small block. Exterior is really sexy might I add. It wouldn't be fair for the Z to compete against bigger blocks. Forced Induction is its only hope if big power is what is desired. If you wanna compete with bigger faster cars the GTR (Nissans Fans) is where its at. AMS GTR? Game over.

:iagree:

NYBladeZ 04-18-2012 08:26 AM

My neighbor just came by the office and we made a dunkin donuts run. He let me drive his Lotus Exige S. Omg....putting practicality aside, I have never driven such an amazing car. It left my heart racing and my soul yearning for me...I should not have driven it.

shadoquad 04-18-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 1670503)
+1. I see no class of Z owner. I see owners doing and driving what they want. The OP should have realized after a test drive the car was not a Vette or any other car that he feels is faster in a straight line.

Im in Germany and actually get to drive fast on a routine basis, If I want to see the the gas gauge move rapidly. I can also enjoy the car in a dynamic environment as well(think Nurburgring).

If makes me laugh when I see somone turning a sportcar into top fuel dragster. Making it anything but what it was out of the box. A car for driving and enjoying in a dynamic environment. The US does not lack cars for going fast for 12 seconds in a straight line.

As far as mods go - in the US you are making alot of people rich to go 70mph in car that will double that in stock form. Save your money for good electronics, fun travel or retirement.

Its a free country and we can do what we want, but its quite funny to see the rationale that the Z needs so much work after Nissan made it more than formidable.

On the Autobahn a Cayman isnt pushing me out of the left lane. Trust me. Its the 3 liter + Audi wagons LOL! Or the guy in the twin turbo 911 who is owning the left lane!

I watched a German auto test show and they tested the Audi TT-S vs the 370Z and the hosts/testers all picked it hands down! This car is superb.:hello:

I have aspirations for the track, but not the 1/4-mile. I want to modify this car and take it on an actualy racing circuit. Because you're right, the car is made to go 140mph, and I'd like to experience that. I won't in good conscience do that on a public road. Neither will I brake hard at the last second and fling it through an apex on the edge of losing it. That's too dangerous to do in public, but this car was built to do it. :D


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