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Portlis 06-06-2009 02:53 PM

Question for you more experienced car owners.
 
So, I'm highly considering getting a 370z. Its the best looking car for the price on the market, and I'm sick of my current semi slow little 2004 Mazda 3.

With that said, i've got a couple questions on a few of the extra features.

I'm interested in keeping cost as reasonable as possible, and the closer I can keep it to the 30-32k range the more likely I am to actually buy it.

I definitely want one with the rear spoiler, but I see that there appears to be 2 different ways to get one. Either the sports package or the aerodynamics package.

Can someone who actually understands the technical stuff explain in simple terms to a sports car newbie why I want the extra stuff that comes in the sports package? Why is it worth an extra 2 grand to me? I understand the larger wheels, but does it really make that big of a difference in terms of appearance?

If it makes any difference, I'm also only looking at the auto transmission (yea, sue me... I'm a lazy driver :yum:)

Also, I've never driven a rear wheel drive car in the winter. I live in Minnesota, so that's definitely going to be an obstacle for me. How big of a difference is it? I realize its just a matter of where the weight distribution is, but is it an issue I should really worry about?

Thanks in advance!

frost 06-06-2009 03:01 PM

the sport package is well worth the money. the rims arent just better looking, they are really light for better acceleration and braking. you also get better brakes, a lsd, and the spoilers.

as for rwd in the winter, big difference in my opinion.

CBRich 06-06-2009 03:04 PM

The Sport Package includes a few pieces which may be of interest to you:

1. Aero Package: This can be obtained on it's own so it's a bit of a wash here.
2. Sport Brakes: These larger brakes will give you more full steam stops before fading. On the street these really aren't necessary but worthwhile on the track.
3. Limited Slip: This will help you put the power down coming out of turns and launching. Once again more use on the track than the street, but still handy.
4. SRM: This will rev match downshifts for you This is most useful when downshifting and powering out of a turn. It allows smoother engagement of the gear you have selected when you downshift.

Portlis 06-06-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 85984)

as for rwd in the winter, big difference in my opinion.

Thank you very much for the reply.

When you say it's a big difference, do you think it's a big enough difference to warrant NOT buying a Z if it would be my primary vehicle and need to be used in the winter?

blue660r01 06-06-2009 03:06 PM

If it snows alot dont buy it. I put mine away when it snows but when the roads are ok I have it out.

frost 06-06-2009 03:07 PM

Despite living in phoenix, i have also lived some snowy places ... i would get a z, and a beater awd for the winter. it will only be a matter of time before you lose control. even though the z isnt the fastest car in the world, it has a low end kick that throws your head back even when youre not trying ... especially the auto downshift.

baboola 06-06-2009 05:22 PM

are there hills where you live? if there is, it's safe to say rwd is not ideal unless you plan on going up the hill in reverse (with snow tires of course). you can get a beater as frost has mentioned, but that really defeats the purpose of a "daily driving car", not to mention that'll cost a few grand extra. there are a few alternatives in that price range that are suitable for winter driving. if you can find a vw R32 in your area, that might be your best option. Or you can always wait another year for R20T. depending on your age/preference, Evo X isn't a bad option either. just my 2c

nogoodname 06-06-2009 05:25 PM

the lsd is worth it and the bbk's also


lsd = limited slip deferential
bbk= big brake kit

better braking and no peg legging...one wheel spinning

NotmyGTR 06-06-2009 06:05 PM

wheels r enough
 
Cost wise, you dont have to look any further than the wheels. Two grand will get you laughed at to get a brand new set of 19" Volks with tires. Plus, Rays made these FOR YOUR CAR. Not like you can get them at your local dealer.

Aero package.....what plans do you have for mods in the future? Lots of nice carbon wings out on the market right now. Front spoiler....are you gonna add a tt set up later on? Cause the front end you get with the aero package will not accomodate an intercooler.

Bigger brakes. Priceless. I dont care if your tracking your car or not. Larger brakes should be welcomed, not questioned.

LSD. Sports car........power to ground is what its all about. Nuf said

SRM. If you are used to heal/toe, than you wont know you have it.

All this typing and replies to the original post...........is the sport package an option with the AT version? Certainly dont need SRM if its an automatic. IDK....My BFF..Jill? Just my $.02

TheWeatherman 06-06-2009 06:32 PM

Ohhh, a Minnesotan! I was a Gopher for my undergrad. I'm from Wisconsin, and if you should get the sport package, you WILL have to buy new tires. I was completely stuck in one-half inch of snow here in Wisconsin. Seriously, could not get it to move. I had to wait to get salt under the tires and ahead of me to get rolling. Get the car, get a sport package just because it looks awesome, and people who may buy it from you down the road would probably want that. I would completely agree with getting a winter beater. I know our winters, and the front chin spoiler wouldn't even clear anything with "Winter Weather Advisory" criteria. Winter storm? You're idle no matter your tires. It's just so low to the ground! I love this car though, and as far as winter temperatures.... Mine ran perfectly when it was -15 this past winter. (My FX35 is my snow car.) Get it, but think about getting a spare car for the snow.

Portlis 06-06-2009 06:59 PM

Well hmm...

I'll be honest with you guys, you've done a great job of "selling" me on the sports package, but an even better job of convincing me that I should probably not get the car in the first place.

It's just not practical for me to own 2 vehicles. I only have 1 garage spot to store my vehicle in, and I'm not going to park a second vehicle outside in the freezing cold that I need to get into every day. Plus moving it around when the snow plow comes around... just not going to happen.

Plus, buying a winter beater is another hassle and cost I don't need. There's going to be a cost associated with buying the vehicle in the first place, and the whole reason I avoid beaters is because of the maintenance they require. No, I'm only interested in a car that I can drive year round. Like I said, I'm simply just sick of my current car, but I don't NEED a new one. My little Mazda 3 only has 37k miles on it and still runs perfectly. I'm absolutely not considering any other vehicle at the moment. Only interested in the Z because I like it. I wouldn't be happy with anything else.

Now, I'd be open to the idea of snow tires completely... but if its still going to get stuck in even a little bit of snow due to the low profile of the car, then I guess it just won't work out.

I'll think about it a bit more I suppose, but its kind of looking like I first need to get out of Minnesota before I can really get an awesome car like this.

frost 06-06-2009 07:02 PM

^ there is always a time and a place, and this might not be it. good luck in your decision, cheers!

fly yellow 06-06-2009 11:54 PM

I haven't had the Z in snow yet, and we don't get a lot of snow in Baltimore, so it wasn't a concern. I can tell you that at one time I did have a 91 MR2. That was rear wheel drive and I lived in Pittsburgh for 2 years while I had it. Pittsburgh has snow and lots of hills. I used to drive back and forth from Pittsburgh to Baltimore every other weekend and I never had any issues at all. Now the MR2 was mid engine, so that may have helped with having some extra weight over the drive wheels. I've also had a Mustang GT which never gave me problems in the snow, and a Cadillac CTS RWD that did fine in the snow. You wouldn't want to take any of them out until after the plows have passed, but I imagine you have the same deal with the Mazda.

azn1515 06-07-2009 12:22 AM

Hey Portlis, am from Apple Valley and am planning to buy the Z next year. It is going to be my daily driver regardless of winter. I am just going to purchase another set of rims and snow tires for to solve the traction problems and, of course will drive her sensibly during winter. The clearance problem is a non-issue for me as I currently have a dropped car which I used last winter without any hassles.
Am not going to let winter get in the way of my ownership of this beautiful car!

Cyberium 06-07-2009 12:18 PM

People that drive the Z in the snow are f'ing nuts.

First off all, this car is LOW to the ground. I mean, if your town doesn't have alot of snow plows they will appreciate you helping them out as you'll do a good job plowing.

Second of all, it's a REAR WHEEL SPORTS CAR. If I have to explain why you shouldn't drive a car like this in the snow please don't get one. I mean how many corvettes and vipers do you see driving in snow... Exactly.

Third -- The paint on these cars are extremely fragile. Rock Salt and freezing rain and snow and all that crap with RUIN this car's finish.

Do yourself and whoever plans on driving this car in the snow a favor and buy a $2000 Jeep or equivilant winter beater and keep the 370z waxed and pretty in a garage.


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