You also can not have anything in front of it; plastic, window itself, spray. :shakes head:

If you were in an old beat up pickup they'd probably let you slide. Now in a 370Z or other performance car with the new speed camera and stop light cameras they will be enforcing this law a lot more I'm afraid. :mad:

So happy we have no front plate in Montreal

If we did, I would for sure use that motorized plate hiding thingy

You learn that sentences that start with this tend to not be true.

STILLEN FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET

Very easy to install and remove when you dont want it on the car. I refused to drill into the bumper and so glad I bought this. It looks good on the car too!

I have a photoshopped pic of my car with a plate for when they do get me lol. But otherwise I just do my thing.

I will never have a front license plate on Vanity. As a matter of fact, when i took delivery of her i had to bring her back for the PDI and to have mods installed, i made sure i took the front plate bracket out of the hatch area before i started detailing her. Plus, the dealership i ordered my 370Z through never installs the front license plate on Z's unless instructed to do so, which i'm told never happens.:driving:

Texas Police Officer: Sir/Ma'am do you know why I pulled you over?

370Z Driver: No officer, why?

Texas Police Officer: You don't have a front license plate on your vehicle.

370Z Driver: Interesting, that's not against the law currently. Is there anything else you believe I'm in violation of?

Texas Police Officer: No, but I'm going to have to ask you for your license and registration.

370Z Driver: I'm sorry officer but if I'm not in violation of any state or local statutes, and you have no probable cause, I don't have to show you anything. I'll be on my way now. Have a nice day, sir.

Same thing goes for searching the inside of your car, no probable cause, say no! Believe it or not police officers are allowed to lie to get their way. This has been proven many times over from people who know the law more than the officers recording them on video. The funniest ones are lawyers in a protest, they damn near get away with anything!

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

Authority on Texas law, are you?

The current situation is that it is a violation to not display a front plate. The problem is there are no prescribed penalties for the offense.

Police officers enforce the laws, the court system decides what penalty is appropriate based on the law drafted by the Legislature.

Bottomline - you can decide to not run a front plate and ultimately, you probably won't be fined for it. That still doesn't save you from the time and inconvenience dealing with it.

As I told several people this weekend, I'm not interested in being a test case. I bought a tow hook bracket from gominigo. I'll remove the plate for meets (sometimes), but still run the risk of getting a ticket. If I get nailed, I'll deal with it.

That's exactly why I got the 'tow hook mount'.. put it on while driving, and take it off at meets. Doesn't stop the cops from pulling you over and writing a ticket, which then you would have to go to court to get dismissed. I sure dont want that inconvenience. And I would just love to see someone tell a DPS officer "I don't have to show you anything. I'll be on my way now." :eek:

Ya.. You try that and let us know how that works for you.. lol


I've only been ticketed once in Illinois for not having a front plate, it was 75 dollar fine in a public parking garage in Chicago. And yes here the traffic enforcement cops can go into parking garages and ticket people. To me its part of the price to pay for having that look.

This pretty much sums it up.

Don't give cops any reason to pull you over and you should be alright.

I dislike mounting front plates on all of my cars as a personal preference. Once I got a ticket for no front plate while my car was parked on the street in front of my house. It was a $10 fix-it ticket and the plate was off once I cleared it. It was strange, someone in my neighborhood must've ratted me out. Then my housemate moved out and I took over the garage and I haven't had a problem since.

I live in Cali, no front plate here, didn't have one on my RX-8 when I lived in Connecticut either. Surprisingly enough, the dealer took it upon themselves to NOT drill into my front bumper, they said they will let me decide if I want to risk it. Couldn't thank them enough! What a way to ruin the front of a car... I've never had any issues with police, even when receiving speeding tickets.

It all depends on the officer and how much of a hard on they have.... I've done some of the stupidest sh*t in front of a cop been pulled over, driving my CA registered car with a NY license after I got out of the navy and about 6 months outside there transition grace period. Was given a hard time for everything this is in my A4 and the officer had to leave as his pen was about to touch the ticket paper. Did I deserve a ticket yeah I did, and got let off with a stern warning.

I also have had officers stare at my front bumper like there is something crazy with it for ten minutes then come back and ask where my plate was, I just tell them not on the car. Then when I went to get it signed off the officer in the station cracked jokes on the guy that wrote me up...on of them was to the effect of he would write his own mom up for this...

So it is all hit or miss, none of my cars since I've been in CA have had a front plate.

I got pulled over on the way to schools for no front plate by
Un marked charger!
He wrote me a ticket and told me , that he will write me
An another ticket, if he sees me again
Driving with out my front plate!
I had to paid $124. + $65 for stillen F. Mount.
A month later, I saw him waiting for someone At the same
Spot. :( it could have been $200 ticket if I did t have my front
Plate on for second time. :((

^^ Did you get points for not having front plate too?

I refuse to mount my front plate. Got my Z in the begining of 09. Been pulled over a few times and simply told the officer I wont drill into my bumper. They respect the car and let me go everytime!! I got a ticket for it once but it was cause the cop caught me speeding. Gave me the license plate ticket instead.

Doubtfull as it is not a moving violation.

Its a no point ticket for sure.

Well, idk if its been mentioned. But you should look into a show n' go license plate mod. There one in the DIY section. If you get pulled over you can just press the button and say "wha!? Are you blind! Go check again!" Lol

worst... advice... ever...

sure u go ahead and tell a cop that "u had no reason to pull me over, and im not showing you anything". they can tell u anything. suspicious bahavior, suspicious vehicle (for having no front plate), or just because they can. then u will go from a probable warning, to having about 5 tickets coming your way for being a bag of douche, one of which will be failing to identify yourself properly to an officer.

i got pulled for it once. told him that it was already ordered and coming in next week. got off with a warning

Especially saying that to a Texas cop. Yes sir and no sir are the only correct answers here.

I agree as well.
It will make a 5min stop to a 15min stop because you pissed off the cop and now he will prob give you a ticket for anything he can, like tinted windows..
All for not showing some ID.

This is absolutely correct.

I don't run a front plate, and I'm completely aware this gives every cop that drives by the opportunity to have a discussion with me about it should he choose to. 9 times out of 10, he's just making sure I'm not reeking of booze. Once he's satisfied I'm ok, I usually get a warning. I've gotten a few tickets, and I pay them and go on with my life. The vast majority of my other traffic stops and tickets were completely justified by me doing something against the law (likely speed related), so I can't really be too upset.

Move to Alberta.

I don't think I did. I might have. I need to check on that... him..

Cool thanks. I don't think you will get points either. But I just want to double check.

Another question for everyone... If I get any kind of warning from cops, say speeding or no front plate and so on, does it has a record on me and increases the chance to get a ticket next time being pulled over? And if so, how long does the warning record stay?

I've received 3 tickets for no front license plate.... I've just paid them and moved on. Didn't prevent me from renewing my registration either.

Go with the Stillen tow hook mount for the front plate. No drilling involved.

Actually this guy is right. If you look into the constitution for both Canada and the USA it says that you can refuse interaction with a peace officer (police) if there is no breach of the peace. They can't just come up to you and demand you to produce your ID. That goes against you basic rights. They have to observe you breach the peace in order to force you to identify yourself. Not saying how the OP explained how he would talk to the officer is how I would do it. But if you know your rights and understand some of the basics of law you can get your way out of a lot. Also remember to record the entire interaction with the cop from the moment they pull you over. Then when they tell you that "you need to turn that off" or "you can't record me" (because a lot of them don't want to be) well that's strike number one against them. They are then threatening you under the colour of law which is a violation on him! Then bring up the breach of the peace (you will need to know the definition o this for it to work) then you have another strike on them they also tend to back off at this point seeing that you are not some common person who has no understanding of there own rights. Like the majority of society who just allows them to violate there rights. People everywhere need to start recording more of the police and other public servants actions this is your right to do so, they work for us! This will help bring more honesty to the system and help expose the people taking advantage of there powers and can be very helpful if things ever get to court.

Go read something actually useful people. The constitution and bill of human rights is for you! Learn it because as the law states - ignorance to the law is no excuse - so they are saying its your own fault if you don't know or understand it. This how they take advantage of everyday citizens by bullying there way into a position of power and to many people are scared of the police thinking if thy challenge them that they are going to jail but you won't!


Also guys might want to reconsider putting the plate in front window. That can be a very sharp projectile in the cabin if you (heaven forbid) where to get in an accident!

All of the above is technically correct. Although, not running a front plate in an area where it is required by law is illegal, thus not allowing you to refuse the interaction with the police. Every time I've been pulled over, my goal was to avoid the ticket and make the stop as short as possible. The best way to do that is to comply with reasonable police requests and not break his balls too badly. While I could flex my rights, I have a feeling that you may go from discussing them with an officer to discussing them with a judge. Even if everything is dismissed, you still went to court (or jail) and wasted your time.

Texas inadvertantly removed the penalty for no front plate because our legislators didn't proof-read something, but you'll still have to talk to the police when they pull you over for it.

let me ask u guys something... if u think by "not showing a cop your id" and spouting of a bunch of bs law crap u learned on the internet will help anything, u may want to reconsider. let me tell u why..

you get pulled over

officer: sir can i see your ID

you: i don't need to show you my ID, i wasn't doing anything

officer (thinking to himself, while i cannot legally arrest or ticket this man i now have suspicious behavior)

Now he can say ANYTHING... ANYTHING that he saw u do that could have gotten u pulled over. not signalling far enough in advance, u touched a boundry line, excessive acceleration (yea, thats a real ticket), noise violation, tint looked too dark, etc..., etc.... And chances are, you probably brake about 50 traffic laws a day that you don't know about.

Now, because you are "so smart with your newfound online knowlege" he now has reasonable cause to ask you for a vehicle search, sobriety test, or anything else that are legally within his rights to do after pulling u over... all things u could have avoided by just providing your damn ID.

theres a reason there are people (lawyers) that are paid to know every loophole of the law

Spouting off the Constitution to a cop is an awesome idea if you want to taste dirt with a boot to the back of your neck. Disorderly conduct laws are intentionally vague for a reason.

None of my sports cars have had license plates on the front, only got hassled for it when I was young. Got pulled over a lot more then too. :wtf2:

About 110k on a 71 240z
About 120k on a 69 Vette (turn signals never worked on this one either)
17k on the 370z so far.

No pull-overs for license, no warnings.

Don't be an idiot, be nice and polite to the cop and don't get out of the vehicle. They really don't like it when you do that.

Little un-official observation on the highway

Mercedes: 7/8 do not have
Lotus: 1/1 do not have
Mustang: 1/1 do not have
Porsche: 2/4 do not have
Miata: 2/2 Have
BMW: 2/2 Have

I was almost laughing when I was counting up the Mercedes. Even the female drivers run without front plates

Twice in the last 3 weeks (tints n plates), Its my sexy exhaust that gets them wondering...I got cuffed and harassed yesterday after leaving my school parking lot at about 9PM. He did like 3 different sobriety tests and asked me like 5 times "how much marijuana have u had today son."...while he was moving his little pen i just said "im sober"....said "i can tow your car right now for DMV fraud, you know" i just responded "no you cant"...searched my car and asked a bunch of stupid questions about performace and gas mileage n said "okay good thing ur not drunk so im just going to give you a little homework assignment." :facepalm:

Never had a front plate on my 06 350Z or on my 09 370Z, as long as you are not an idiot you wont have an issue.







DAN

Let me guess, Glendale?
I agree, it's the Mr. Shaft exhaust that you have that's the root of it all.
I'm putting my front plates on. I hate trouble......

I had issue with Idiot Cop!! Just saying! :p

Got my FI HFC and CBE installed today.......it sounds awesome. ou should look into it. As for my plates, I zip tied the sucker on the grill and it looks ugly as heck. Will drill the holes and install the holder once the vanity plates i ordered arrive. I'll be a boys scout and follow the rules. Done with dealing with cops. Too old for that crap.