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Chan Chee Hoe 03-11-2012 06:29 PM

"Gas Guzzler" taxes.
 
Dear U.S. friends,may i know how much your G'ovt charged every new "Z" in U.S..?Next year S'pore will have the same taxes,S$5000.00[aboutUS$4000.00] every new "Z".!

SPOHN 03-11-2012 06:37 PM

They don't charge us a gas guzzling tax (yet). Far as I'm concern that only goes for the higher end supercars here.

brucelidat 03-11-2012 06:39 PM

Not for the Z anyway. Actually, I think even the GT-R is above the Gas Guzzler tax threshhold but I may be wrong. I know the m3 and CTS-V are charged it though.

red6spd 03-11-2012 06:39 PM

Its for cars that get a certain MPG rating which is very low, not sure of the number but like SPOHN said is for very expensive luxury cars and exotic cars not the Z.

SPOHN 03-11-2012 06:43 PM

''The National Energy Act: Energy Tax Act of 1978 (US), or the Gas Guzzler Tax, imposed set tax penalties on car manufacturers who fail to meet the minimum fuel economy level of 22.5 mpg-US (10.5 L/100 km; 27.0 mpg-imp) in the United States. This does not include minivans, sport utility vehicles or pick-up trucks. It is intended to discourage the production and purchase of fuel inefficient vehicles. In determining the tax, the fuel economy figures used are different from the fuel economy values provided in the Fuel Economy Guide. This tax is collected by the IRS and paid by the manufacturer or importer after production has ended for the model year. It is based on the total number of gas guzzler vehicles which were introduced into commerce in the United States. The amount of the tax paid by manufacturer is displayed on the vehicle's fuel economy label on the window sticker of new cars.''


''Combined Fuel Economy

The Gas Guzzler Tax is based on combined fuel economy, which is based on a 55%/45% highway/city fuel economy estimate from the Environmental Protection Agency test.

How Much is the Gas Guzzler Tax?

Vehicles that get at least 22.5 mpg (combined) don't have to pay the Gas Guzzler Tax. The Tax rate goes from $1,000 for vehicles that get at least 21.5 mpg (combined), but less than 22.5 mpg (combined) all the way up to $7,700 for vehicles that get less than 12.5 mpg (combined).

Are SUVs Subject to the Gas Guzzler Tax?

SUVs are not subject to the Gas Guzzler Tax. When the law was first enacted in 1978, SUVs and light trucks represented less than 25% of the vehicles on the road, and were considered primarily work vehicles. Over the last three decades, the use of SUVs has substantially changed, but the law hasn't. Here's a quote from Senate Report 109-082 "Highway Reauthorization and Excise Tax Simplification Act of 2005":''

Augustus 03-11-2012 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1593524)
They don't charge us a gas guzzling tax (yet). Far as I'm concern that only goes for the higher end supercars here.

It affects more than just exotics. I know the Challenger SRT-8 is affected because I test drove one and noticed it on the window sticker. I think it's mpg is like 14/23.

Found the 2010 list here...

The Lincoln Town Car, for instance, was affected before it was discontinued. The 2010 Infiniti M45x too....

http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b11034.pdf

SPOHN 03-11-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augustus (Post 1593649)
It affects more than just exotics. I know the Challenger SRT-8 is affected because I test drove one and noticed it on the window sticker. I think it's mpg is like 14/23.

Found the 2010 list here...

The Lincoln Town Car, for instance, was affected before it was discontinued. The 2010 Infiniti M45x too....

http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/guzzler/420b11034.pdf

Yea at first I was just appling. Then I came across what I posted above you which sums it all up.

UNKNOWN_370 03-11-2012 08:59 PM

SUV's should be taxed harder. I hate the double-standard in this country. The only reason they don't is because SUV's have literally no aftermarket resale value and taxing them would make them plummet further. Sales would suffer greatly. But SUV's are the ones contributing to gas prices going up. NOT MOS T sports cars.

gomer_110 03-11-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1593816)
SUV's should be taxed harder. I hate the double-standard in this country. The only reason they don't is because SUV's have literally no aftermarket resale value and taxing them would make them plummet further. Sales would suffer greatly. But SUV's are the ones contributing to gas prices going up. NOT MOS T sports cars.

:iagree:

brucelidat 03-11-2012 09:25 PM

I think a company's entire fleet's mileage factors ina little bit too. I remember reading that the GTR wasn't subject to the gas guzzler tax but it should be based off of the 22.5 standard. Someone on the NAGTROC was saying that because Nissan voerall had pretty good EPA the GTR was somehow off the hook. I'm not sure about the mathematical reason or whatever though.

ImportConvert 03-11-2012 10:10 PM

Meh. Politics.

Chan Chee Hoe 03-12-2012 06:27 AM

Thanks Guys for your replies,your G'ovt is very kind to the citizens[Cheap cars,petrol,road taxes].....not like in S'pore,suck us dry.!

sig11 03-12-2012 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 1593854)
I think a company's entire fleet's mileage factors ina little bit too. I remember reading that the GTR wasn't subject to the gas guzzler tax but it should be based off of the 22.5 standard. Someone on the NAGTROC was saying that because Nissan voerall had pretty good EPA the GTR was somehow off the hook. I'm not sure about the mathematical reason or whatever though.

They get a some exemptions for beating the standard overall IIRC.

Zaggeron 03-12-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 1594152)
Thanks Guys for your replies,your G'ovt is very kind to the citizens[Cheap cars,petrol,road taxes].....not like in S'pore,suck us dry.!

I wouldn't necessarily credit altruistic motives on the G'ovt's part. There are basically very few places in the US with anything close to the population density of Singapore. As a result, public transportation systems are prohibitively expensive in most places in the US. If they make autos too expensive to own for the average Joe, they'd have to build that infrastructure.


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