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EazyD 02-27-2012 04:49 PM

Accidents Caused by Blind Spots - Seriously, ..anybody?
 
Lots of complaints over blind spots on these cars over the years.. but has anyone actually gotten into an accident because of the design of this vehicle (not driver error)?

I know we are only a small sample of 370Z owners, but we gotta start somewhere..

If nobody comes out of the woodwork, then maybe we shut this 'complaint' down in the future right from the start.

martin82 02-27-2012 04:50 PM

I have my mirrors all the way out and I just gas it when lane changing lol

Juruki 02-27-2012 04:58 PM

^^ mirros all the way out fix the blind spot issue. It worked for me

wstar 02-27-2012 05:00 PM

It is possible to have an accident due to blind spotting, the question is whether you blame the car or yourself. IMHO, with properly adjusted mirrors there isn't a practical blind spot on the highway, but many people don't know how to properly adjust mirrors (I didn't until this car required me to learn).

Quick Google link that seems to have the right technique: How to adjust your mirrors | The Web Page of Kristopher Linquist

Backing out of a parking space, on the other hand, is totally dangerous in this car. Be smart, go slow, pause for idiots :).

Red__Zed 02-27-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1569205)
It is possible to have an accident due to blind spotting, the question is whether you blame the car or yourself. IMHO, with properly adjusted mirrors there isn't a practical blind spot on the highway, but many people don't know how to properly adjust mirrors (I didn't until this car required me to learn).

Quick Google link that seems to have the right technique: How to adjust your mirrors | The Web Page of Kristopher Linquist

Backing out of a parking space, on the other hand, is totally dangerous in this car. Be smart, go slow, pause for idiots :).

I think even with proper adjustment, you have a blind spot that is more than big enough to hide a bike.

wstar 02-27-2012 05:09 PM

It's ok, bikes just mean fender scratches :driving:

But seriously, adjusted correctly a motorcycle can't hide.

Red__Zed 02-27-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1569230)
It's ok, bikes just mean fender scratches :driving:

But seriously, adjusted correctly a motorcycle can't hide.

Maybe it's a driver height thing. I know how to adjust mirrors and always had a blind spot that a big could easily tuck into

Pintsize725 02-27-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1569236)
Maybe it's a driver height thing. I know how to adjust mirrors and always had a blind spot that a big could easily tuck into

Defintely a driver height issue. I had to buy the small convex mirrors to help a bit. The driver side mirror also blocks my left side view at intersections a bit. I'm 4' 10".

wstar 02-27-2012 05:19 PM

Are you on the short side or tall side? Maybe.

azn370z 02-27-2012 05:30 PM

If you get into an accident changing lanes it's your fault. You have to know where the cars in front and back are before merging. This isn't your typical car that has a small blindspot.

Vertigo 02-27-2012 05:31 PM

The design of the car can't be blamed for an accident. Granted, the Z has a nasty blind spot, but if you are extra careful when changing lanes, backing out, etc, I don't see how it could be an issue.

LakeShow 02-27-2012 05:32 PM

Turn on signal, hold the horn, swerve into the next lane. Always works. At least I'm considerate and warn people. :tup:

Red__Zed 02-27-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1569247)
Are you on the short side or tall side? Maybe.

Too tall to drive it with a helmet on :p

Gauge 02-27-2012 05:39 PM

I just gas it and make sure I have the room. I mean I still look but with the wing and the blind spot I might as well not lmao.

TO be fair I think the extra caution we use because we don't want to wreck our car compensates for the blind spot.

IMWEZL 02-27-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1569208)
I think even with proper adjustment, you have a blind spot that is more than big enough to hide a bike.

Yeah embarrassingly I almost took out a fellow motorcyclist. I had the windows down and didn't even hear him. After that I got small convex mirrors and attached them.

Moped riders are also hard to see. They are not as bad here in SC as they were in Korea but there is definetely an increase in riders.

370ZilverZ 02-27-2012 05:42 PM

Height does play in the blind spot mirror adjustment. I have my mirrors all the way out and I can still see all of my rear fender. I added a blind spot mirror on my LH mirror since I almost clipped a car while I was changing lanes and didn't see any sign of the car beside me. The blind spot mirror look like sh!t, but it keeps me from hitting what I otherwise can't see without them.

Jordo! 02-27-2012 05:45 PM

Rear blind spots aren't too terrible once you get used to them.

It's the side mirrors overall size that obstructs my view. Whole cars have "popped" out as I'm entering a turn, they were hidden perfectly behind the side mirror on the left. It also obstructs my vision on the right.

I'm 5'7", so on the shorter side, but I've got the seat cranked all the way up. Never had this issue with any other car in my life. Thy're too chunky. Why are these things as big as my head?

kenchan 02-27-2012 05:53 PM

someone made a left-turn and hit another car cause the mirror blinded the view. i dont remember who.

Vertigo 02-27-2012 05:59 PM

Did he have these installed?

http://www.truckcustomizers.com/imag...s-02-large.jpg

kenchan 02-27-2012 06:02 PM

jordo- you can actually raise the factory seat another 3/4" with some spacers and lower bolt. modshack recommended this to me a while ago and that helped my view quite a bit.

but the ultimate solution was my CS. :p now i can see as good as when in my my G35C.

Nismo89 02-27-2012 06:08 PM

ill be honest, i absolutely adore my 370... but one thing that irks me is changing lanes... especially on a busy highway... i dont drive her too often to keep the miles low on it for better trade in for a newer 370 or GTR in the future, but when i do take her out for a drive.... highway drivng..... and changing lanes is a real worrisome thing for me, the blindspot windows are so small you really dont even see the point in why Nissan put them there and thought they would prevent the "blindspot" from occuring.. i drive in the slow lane and have to completely turn my head and body around in order to partially see lol.

Nick911sc 02-27-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1569305)
someone made a left-turn and hit another car cause the mirror blinded the view. i dont remember who.


I remember this, he said that the mirror blocked his view while he was turning and drove into some parked cars... Sounds more like driver error to me.. loll

kenchan 02-27-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 1569348)
I remember this, he said that the mirror blocked his view while he was turning and drove into some parked cars... Sounds more like driver error to me.. loll

hahaha, i suppose we need step ladders inside the car so we can see over the mirrors. :icon17: :wtf2:

Nick911sc 02-27-2012 06:20 PM

This should help

http://photo.buysell.net.my/data/639.../424_p5214.jpg

kenchan 02-27-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 1569353)

:icon18:

alcheng 02-27-2012 06:37 PM

7 years in a 323 cabrio, 4 years in a 350 vert, and now 6 months with a 370 vert.

I adjust both side mirrors all the way outward, as much as they can stretch. One time my friend ask me, " Does you car have a blind spot?" She thought the blind spot is too big that I can't even check it by turning my head, cos she never see me turn my head.

Never has an accident that caused by blind spot.

Of course, I am NOT saying we don't need shoulder check, sometimes, I do turn my head too.

Every car has blind spot, we can't blame the blind spot, it's the drivers' responsibility to overcome it.

BTW, FYI, the one car I notice it has damn blind spot, you might not believe me, but it is my experience cause I used to drive that car, it's the Mazda Protege5, yup, a wagon with TONS of windows. I have to put a convex on both side... Yup, the blind spot on that one is even worse than 370.

CAD$0.02

Z_Girl 02-27-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1569205)
.Backing out of a parking space, on the other hand, is totally dangerous in this car. Be smart, go slow, pause for idiots :).

:iagree:

wstar 02-27-2012 07:15 PM

I guess another reason I don't have much problem with it is I'm generally outpacing everyone around me, and I build a mental map as I go. So I know where people are behind me without looking to begin with, the mirror/look checks are just double-takes to make sure they didn't do something totally unpredictable. (Well, and the rear view checks spot oncoming faster drivers, but even though I scan it religiously that's pretty rare heh. Usually more likely to find the fuzz there :p)

Telephone 02-27-2012 07:32 PM

Backing out of parking spaces can also be a pain. Side mirrors won't help if you're parked between 2 taller vehicles. I found this out today after I used the angled street parking spots.

I drove my friend's Corvette last night and was surprised how much better the visibility was in his car.

Drex 02-27-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1569291)
Rear blind spots aren't too terrible once you get used to them.

It's the side mirrors overall size that obstructs my view. Whole cars have "popped" out as I'm entering a turn, they were hidden perfectly behind the side mirror on the left. It also obstructs my vision on the right.

I'm 5'7", so on the shorter side
, but I've got the seat cranked all the way up. Never had this issue with any other car in my life. Thy're too chunky. Why are these things as big as my head?

:iagree:

this has happened to me too. i'm 5'6" so im sure it has a lot to do with driver height. i actually sit up/stretch a little higher and look over the side mirror when turning now to avoid this.

SPOHN 02-27-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1569480)
I guess another reason I don't have much problem with it is I'm generally outpacing everyone around me, and I build a mental map as I go. So I know where people are behind me without looking to begin with, the mirror/look checks are just double-takes to make sure they didn't do something totally unpredictable. (Well, and the rear view checks spot oncoming faster drivers, but even though I scan it religiously that's pretty rare heh. Usually more likely to find the fuzz there :p)

That's me for sure. Now that I have a cage the top main loop has block some of my view out the rear. I need to drop my rear view some how. Mostly for track purpose.

UNKNOWN_370 02-27-2012 08:43 PM

Isn't this the same topic as this?

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...lind-spot.html

EazyD 02-27-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1569613)

That one inspired this thread. This thread is to see if everyone's talk about blind spots is all talk. I don't see any concrete stories from people about it causing an accident. So why are threads like the one you linked to still in existence??

What I am proposing is the following when someone new posts about blind spots:

1. Someone posts "Hey, I heard the 370Z has bad blind spots. Is this true?"
2. Someone replies "No."
3. Lock thread.

That should be the end of it unless I see a legitimate story about someone having their mirrors aimed properly and still hitting someone.


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