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BlackZeda 12-08-2011 07:46 PM

Are you proud of this Nissan?
 
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Went to Starbucks in the morning like I always do (since I work from home and don't commute, but want to drive my Z) and when I attempted to start....NOTHING.

So I got to sit in the parking lot for an hour waiting for a tow and the embarrassment of having a nice Corvette and Camaro drive by with the drivers probably laughing at me.

I feel like I have been had by Nissan....They aren't even close to the quality of Toyotas. Oh, and this is the second time this has happened...

Are you proud of your product Nissan?

Apoc370z 12-08-2011 07:50 PM

You are blaming the entire company based on this? I am sure the cars honda or toyota make never have this kind of problem right?

theDreamer 12-08-2011 07:50 PM

Very proud of my Nissan.

nmjaxx9 12-08-2011 07:50 PM

wow that sucks...havent had any issues with my 370z like that yet (knock on wood)

Trips 12-08-2011 07:52 PM

Honestly I wouldn't feel embarrassed because I could careless what people think but It would be upsetting for sure. I've yet to have any issues with mine and I hope your issue get resolved this time around.

Z_ealot 12-08-2011 07:52 PM

i smell a flame war coming out of this, but i'll bite....yes i am proud of my Z as it has never left me stranded in almost 10k miles of driving and is a joy to drive everyday, sorry for your luck though. you seem to be one of the few who has problems with it.

FairladyZ10PG 12-08-2011 07:58 PM

That sucks. I hope it doesn't happen the third time. Oh, and I don't think it's plausible to compare it to Toyota anymore. Remember the big recall a few years back?? Stuff happens. We just hope it doesn't happen to us. :P

KaienZ34 12-08-2011 07:59 PM

What was the issue last time around?

Red__Zed 12-08-2011 08:01 PM

sounds like you killed your battery....

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 1442111)
You are blaming the entire company based on this? I am sure the cars honda or toyota make never have this kind of problem right?

Don't get me wrong, I love the car and I love driving it, but I am also jaded because I have owned 5 Toyotas since 1988 before. Of those 5 Toyotas I have had ONE problem and that was an oxygen sensor. So yes, I do blame the entire company for stranding me TWICE which hasn't happened to me before.

I may be guilty of having high standards or expectations, but I don't think you would like being in my shoes at that moment.

At the dealership I did speak to the assistant general manager and during the conversation he mentioned that Toyotas have a high amount of recalls. My reply was that Nissan should follow suit and have pride in their product and more importantly attempt to REALLY fix issues.

To their credit the dealership is very responsive and treated me right. But it is the same concept to me when you get the wrong order at McDonald's...."Dude...it is your only job to get the order right". Likewise, a car's purpose is to GO...and even more so with a high-performance version. And it has let me down twice.

I guess I am the only one that considers my time valuable.

Sorry if I have offended anyone, but I can't help but feel embarrassed that I thought Nissan would be of the same quality as Toyota. That's on me.

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 1442123)
What was the issue last time around?

The first time was the IPDM, this time it was the steering wheel lock.

Skeeterbop 12-08-2011 08:10 PM

I know it sucks and can sympathize with you, I wouldn't blame the entire company. I'll just leave it at that.

Z_ealot 12-08-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1442128)
Don't get me wrong, I love the car and I love driving it, but I am also jaded because I have owned 5 Toyotas since 1988 before. Of those 5 Toyotas I have had ONE problem and that was an oxygen sensor. So yes, I do blame the entire company for stranding me TWICE which hasn't happened to me before.

I my be guilty of having high standards or expectations, but I don't think you would like being in my shoes at that moment.

At the dealership I did speak to the assistant general manager and during the conversation he mentioned that Toyotas have a high amount of recalls. My reply was that Nissan should follow suit and have pride in their product and more importantly attempt to REALLY fix issues.

To their credit the dealership is very responsive and treated me right. But it is the same concept to me when you get the wrong order at McDonald's...."Dude...it is your only job to get the order right". Likewise, a car's purpose is to GO...and even more so with a high-performance version. And it has let me down twice.

I guess I am the only one that considers my time valuable.

Sorry if I have offended anyone, but I can't help but feel embarrassed that I thought Nissan would be of the same quality as Toyota. That's on me.


no offense taken, everyone has issues with cars at least once in their life and as far as makes of cars i personally dont think it really matters as far as which manufacturers have more problems than others. Hell my parents owned a toyota 4runner and that thing had a hell of alot of problems before my parents finally got rid of it, mostly to do with the drivetrain.

cossie1600 12-08-2011 08:22 PM

2010 Prius with 54K miles, replaced rear hatch struts TWICE
2009 Z with 14K miles, replaced rear hatch struts, replaced gas tank, transmission clunks, transmission whine

geosZ 12-08-2011 09:19 PM

sucks this happened to you . Dint prius have that problem with the gas peddle getting stuck?

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 09:34 PM

To Nissan's credit, the reason why I went with Nissan is I used to do 100% travel for my job. Out of the many, many cars I rented, they seemed to hold up the best, and we know how we like to beat the hell out of rentals ;)

I didn't go for a Toyota because the IS-F is just stupid looking and they can keep the paddle-shifters!

themann1984 12-08-2011 09:36 PM

Holy slabadoo!

These cars are made up of thousands of parts that have taken mankind untold hours to research, design, and produce. Even with the highest quality control standards by the sheer number of vehicles, parts, and processes to put it all together things are eventually going to break. It is a miracle these things work as well they do. Take a course in mathematical probability and it will open a whole new way of viewing the world.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

jpit 12-08-2011 09:37 PM

The steering wheel lock mechanism failure has left many on this forum standed. It's something that Nissan should have recalled.

sfearl1 12-08-2011 09:45 PM

sorry for :stirthepot:

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...er-6-days.html

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...g-light-7.html

RoshDawg 12-08-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geosZ (Post 1442224)
sucks this happened to you . Dint prius have that problem with the gas peddle getting stuck?

No, this was actually a single accident due to a guy using SUV floor mats that were too large for the pedal cut outs. Pedal got stuck on the matt. 100% of that whole Toyota safety fiasco was all BS.

I fortunately have also not had any of the OP's problems.

Cmike2780 12-08-2011 09:55 PM

Seriously OP, lighten up. Stuff happens, and something as trivial as getting your cheeseburger right is hardly worth the aggravation. Have them fix it and move on.

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themann1984 (Post 1442243)
The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

I agree with this :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by themann1984 (Post 1442243)
Take a course in mathematical probability and it will open a whole new way of viewing the world.

Are you intending to be condescending?

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1442259)
Seriously OP, lighten up. Stuff happens, and something as trivial as getting your cheeseburger right is hardly worth the aggravation. Have them fix it and move on.

You missed the point.

FL 4Motion 12-08-2011 10:03 PM

well, tbh, I'd be pissed and frustrated too just like th OP. OP, sorry you've had to go thru this twice now, on the bright side of things, at least it sounds like your dealership is doing right by you which is always a good thing and unfortunately with nissan, seems to be a rare thing.

That said, I wouldn't necessarily throw the baby out with the bathwater and condemn the whole brand, wife and I have owned at least 8 different nissan vehicles and all of them have been reliable, very good cars/suvs. a few minor problems here and there but nothing major (knock on wood).

bigaudiofanat 12-08-2011 10:10 PM

I love my very first Nissan and which is my first brand new car, after owning 2 civics and first driving my fathers which were good cars. But man I love my nissan

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1442274)
...I wouldn't necessarily throw the baby out with the bathwater and condemn the whole brand...

I agree...My next car is going to be a GTR :driving:

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 1442257)
100% of that whole Toyota safety fiasco was all BS..

As an aside, isn't strange that the government was bailing out GM and Chrysler and at the same time the NTSB (the government) and the media (possibly corrupted by the said government) made a huge deal out of it?
Just saying...

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1442278)
I love my very first Nissan and which is my first brand new car, after owning 2 civics and first driving my fathers which were good cars. But man I love my nissan

Agreed, I love my Zeda!

TheGreatOne 12-08-2011 10:20 PM

I love this car to death

I think you are being a little harsh...if these cars (cars in general) weren't made to have an issue...there would be no such things as "warranties" and "service departments"

So ya, sucks you got stranded...but we can't always have the perfect scenario.

I've done over 300+ transactions on Ebay without issue or scams etc. So I love it, yet I know people that have had bad experiences 2 out of 3 times...someone gets the shaft sometimes...

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 1442294)
I love this car to death

I think you are being a little harsh...if these cars (cars in general) weren't made to have an issue...there would be no such things as "warranties" and "service departments"

So ya, sucks you got stranded...but we can't always have the perfect scenario.

I've done over 300+ transactions on Ebay without issue or scams etc. So I love it, yet I know people that have had bad experiences 2 out of 3 times...someone gets the shaft sometimes...

It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

kenchan 12-08-2011 10:41 PM

blackzeda- what is your build date?

UNKNOWN_370 12-08-2011 10:51 PM

Retracting my statement based on the chronic whine may make me combust.

TheGreatOne 12-08-2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1442315)
It also sucks for Nissan when people ask me about my Z and I tell the truth.

I feel that I am just part of a calculation that allows people to be stranded in a parking lot. Anyone on this forum may not value my time, but I certainly do (as my employer and customers).

I guess I am just unrealistic in trying to hold people and companies to higher standards.

But what exactly is the truth?

Yes you had a bad experience but most people put Nissan among Toyota and Honda and looking in this thread, most people are saying thats not happened to them

If my Z died on me, granted I'd be upset, especially if I had somewhere to be but I couldn't see myself walking into the dealer asking they be "accountable"

For the money I paid, I expect them to "fix" it and provide me with my vehicle in in proper working order so i can enjoy it as intended. If they can't do that, then its time to raise my arms.

Why do I feel like I'm being "trolled" lol

gbrettin 12-08-2011 11:04 PM

That Nismo is a real turd. I'll take it off your hands for free. :)

onzedge 12-08-2011 11:07 PM

BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1442320)
blackzeda- what is your build date?

10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 1442347)
But what exactly is the truth?

Yes you had a bad experience but most people put Nissan among Toyota and Honda and looking in this thread, most people are saying thats not happened to them

If my Z died on me, granted I'd be upset, especially if I had somewhere to be but I couldn't see myself walking into the dealer asking they be "accountable"

For the money I paid, I expect them to "fix" it and provide me with my vehicle in in proper working order so i can enjoy it as intended. If they can't do that, then its time to raise my arms.

Why do I feel like I'm being "trolled" lol

I can only relay my experience, but overall I let people know that I love my Z and it is definitely the best looking car on the road (period). BUT, I have had problems.

Not going to sell her and as soon as she is paid off I will be modding her like crazy!

Even before that I will be adding an oil cooler, some beefy brakes, new rims and a custom paint job.

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 11:30 PM

onzedge

I am trying to keep an open mind, but my post is more of a cautionary tale to prospective buyers.

Thanks for the insightful words!

BlackZeda 12-08-2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 1442348)
That Nismo is a real turd. I'll take it off your hands for free. :)

I will send you my title and keys....hey, wait a second! You sneaky bastage! :)

FL 4Motion 12-09-2011 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1442349)
BlackZeda --

Every car maker I know of and have experienced (I have been owning, driving, working on, rebuilding, wrecking and restoring cars for more than 36 years) has problems. Sometimes these are in a few, limited situations and sometimes the problems are more widespread.

To judge an entire company by a few issues that you have had with a single vehicle is neither logical nor fair. You like Toyotas? That's cool because they are very reliable cars; boring as all get out across the board, but reliable. Heck, my wife drives a Toyota and one of my favorite cars was my 1975 Celica. However, if you were one of the guys with the unintended acceleration problem or got your floor mat caught up in the gas pedal, you might be singing a different tune.

As far as Nissans go (z's in particular) my experience is that they are highly reliable and long-lasting. My 370 is my 11th Z car and I still have one of my 240's -- a '71. The 240z has 280,000 or so miles on it, one of my sons has a hand-me-down 1982 280zx (turbo) with more than 350,000 miles and my other son a hand-me-down 1983 280zx NA with about 360,000 miles. These are just a few examples and none of these has had major problems.

I don't know what my point is, exactly, other than to illustrate that when one is stranded it is easy to be upset and say hurtful things. Nissan makes very good cars, just like many other companies. Be patient with what probably are a few freak occurrences, be thankful that you have a good dealer to work with and don't worry so much.

-- onzedge has written...


/\ cliffs: onzedge is an old bastard. :p ...and he really likes his Z cars. :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1442353)
10/09

Sounds like that is significant...

/\ steering column lock or something or other was/is an issue with a noticable amount of 09 Zs (and GTRs too I might add).


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