This is what happens when I don't read anything. :roflpuke2:

I missed that.

The Z could easily be at least 200 lbs lighter... but getting there would have probably added a few grand to the cost.

3200-3300 is adequate given its power and torque, and not wildly far off the weight of similar but pricier cars (e.g., various Porsches)

If there was a way to get the Z down to < 3K lbs (without a hack saw) this car would be perfect!

Maybe there'll be some good power upgrades for the < 2700 lb FR-S that will be coming out soon...

My C6 Corvette stock with everything was 3300lbs on full tank. My 370z base+sport was 3350 with full tank. My 06 RX-8 was 3000lbs on full tank. My 04 350 enth. was 3320lbs.

All stock with full tank, no driver or luggage.

because of the difference in claimed weight vs actual measured weight

It's heavy because of all the swag in it.

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The Z is heavier than some cars, and it is also lighter than some cars.

The most important thing is, how does it actually perform on its handling, and How do you like it.

right???

Right.

And as the 3,800+ lb GTR shows, a few lbs here or there on the 370Z doesn't mean a god damn thing when it comes to performance!!! :icon17:

Z is definitely not a heavy car. actually, i think Z has the perfect steering/handling package in its class.

which ever one my fat a$$ is sitting in at the time.

I think what a lot of people have mentioned about cost, and I would like to add inceasingly strict safety and emmissions regulations as well as value added comfort features and technology, are the main reason contemporary vehicles are getting heavy in general. Take these factors away and this would not be the case. A great example is the Fairlady Z Nismo RC in which cost, emission and certainly comfort and convinience do not play a large role.

The reason the Cayman is lighter is because of the rear engine design. The engine sits right above the rear axle so less drive train. The Z has to send the power to the back wheels which means additional parts and additional weight. But if you think the Z is heavy compare the GTR with Porches in its class, yet it manages surprisingly well.

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Well the Nismo RC is a full on race car, so comfort and convenience don't play a role at all. :icon17:

Who needs all those fancy gadgets anyways...AC, gone, Airbags, gone, Comfortable seats, gone.

not to forget some folks install heavy subs and amps and such... and heavy cheezy crap wheels and junk tires.

Meanwhile some people add excessive weight in the form of charburgers and cheese fries. They keep gobs of them stashed away in the hatch, glove box, and even the storage cubby.

Cheeseburger eddie?

Kenchan.

The chan stands for Charburgers 'N Cheesefries

dang... you see right through me :icon17:

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Really helps in K1 racing as well.

The 3200lbs (I think it was 324x or something?) curb weight figure Nissan released is probably very close to a base. It wouldn't surprise me that the sport package add 80-100lbs to it.

It was claimed the 350z was heavy because it shared a Platform with other Nissan cars.

The 370z does not share its platform with another car, does it ?

I believe it shares parts with the G37, not sure about the chassis though.

I was waiting for someone to mention the RX-8. If that car had any torque it would be a monster.

Do the rins/brakes add that much weight?

No. The little plastic front lip does. :bowrofl:

The renesis engine likely saves 100lbs alone. The RX8 chassis is quite capable and a great performer for what it is.

The Z is a *big* car. I liken the 'light car' discussion to cell phones. People have gotten so used to the crappy voice quality they can say this new phone sounds 'great' compared to the previous one. Hop on a land line and you are introduced to real clarity. Again.

Today's cars have arguably too much required safety items, leather, power this and that, 17-20" wheel sets, larger rotors to help with the growing mass. So if a car is < 3500lbs we think 'its not heavy'. No. It is heavy.

The fact that a car like a GTR can get around a track so well is a testament to good chassis engineers.

Hop in a NA6 miata, Lotus Elise or many other mid-90's sports coupes and you will remember what a lighter car feels like. My '92 miata with FM Turbo and 15" wheels weighed 2250. My 1995 GS-R 2500.

2010 ZR is over 3500 lbs but I get larger everything, a honkin' V6, thicker, heavier doors, leather interior, power everything including top. I can't expect that to be sub 3000 lbs. Kudo's to nissan engineers for trying to save weight where it makes sense. They shaved 20lbs or so with the CF shaft and Ray's wheels just to name two areas. AL hoods are common on sports cars.

Coming from a car 1200+ lbs lighter sports car its still an adjustment for me. The Z is very well planted, and extremely solid. No more go kart feeling I was used to. Doesn't mean its bad...I just wish Nissan did make a 3000lb 2.6-3l6 narrow Z car, which is what I personally was dreaming about before the 350 was released :D

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I think the "feel" of the 350z is closer to this ideal dream Z car you're talking about. It's more than just the measurement of mass, it's how the chassis responds. The 370z is more muscle than sports car, imo.

its def not from overweight gf's, we'll leave those for the mustang guys lol

I believe so yes. Tires too.

My Prius is 3050lbs, it doesn't handle anywhere close to my Z.....

But I bet it's 0-6 mph is ridiculous.

Sport package w/ tires
52.2lbs
56.8lbs
per this thread
base rims are about
50f
52r
with tires


sport akebonos:
Front caliper: 11lbs
Rear caliper: 6lbs
Front rotor: 29lbs
rear rotor: ???


base brakes:
front rotor: 22lbs, 5 oz
no other weights available


No way the calipers are under 5lbs on base, so we will go with that.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...2at11749PM.png

Don't have the rest of the weight, but based on that, I don't see how you would get 80-100 lbs for the SP, you've got a delta of maybe 45lbs if you leave some weight for the rotors...unless the viscous unit weighs a ton




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