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NYBladeZ 11-17-2011 12:23 PM

:shrugs: I got a test drive

b1adesofcha0s 11-17-2011 12:24 PM

I got a test drive in the snow :icon17:

Nixlimited 11-17-2011 12:32 PM

I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but a lot of us sports car nuts are particular about how many miles a "new" car has on it. I am sure that savvy dealers want to keep the mileage as low as possible because we buyers don't want to think that somebody came in just to joyride the car before we bought it.

jpritche 11-17-2011 12:42 PM

haha all my friends that want to test drive cars like Mazdaspeed 3, or used s2000, or cobalt ss, camaros, and things of that nature ask me if I can drive them there haha. For some reason they think just because I drive a 370z means my dad is loaded and will buy me whatever the heck I want... when in reality, yeah I got a nice car at a young age, but I have worked my butt off to help get my dads company where it is, and he recognizes that.

Lemers 11-17-2011 12:51 PM

When I got my Z I'd was talking to an out of town dealer over the phone. I did let them run a creadit report on me. Once they saw my creadit score they were falling all over themselves to help me.

awkwardturtle 11-17-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1411645)

Dude, I'm not gonna lie, I find it pretty sad/pathetic that you stalk me on other forums. Way to rip off a picture of a spoiler that I was mocking up... the same spoiler a member on the other forum offered me $600 for after I spent $250 making it.

As for the other questions/comments, I think I was dressed fairly well. I certainly didn't walk in with ripped jeans and a hoodie, just average everyday clothes. I drove in in a decent car that's very clean/excellent condition that's worth a solid 15-16k on a trade-in. The only reason I told him I hadn't started my job yet because he was insistent on running a credit check to make sure they would finance me the money, and I told him I'd probably not get approved since I'm not going to have any income coming in for 3 weeks. I even told him I had multiple people readily available to co-sign, so it wouldn't be a big deal. I realize that's not the answer he wants to hear, but c'mon, any person in sales should have the foresight to recognize that you can't make all of your sales THAT DAY. How can he expect me to even bother coming back to him when I walk in to buy one now?

And yeah, I can understand wanting to keep mileage low, which is why a lot of dealerships tend to have a designated test car. This is exactly why when I bought my SI when I was 17, the 'new' car I drove had almost 300 miles on it, and the salesman told me to romp on it.

And not to mention, I live in a town with literally the highest Physician to non-physician ratio in the country. You HAVE to expect a lot of young people with rich parents that are willing to buy them anything. I had a relatively crappy car in high school, and I drove a brand new Civic SI. I would think anyone with half a brain would instantly assume a younger-20 year old guy driving a nice/decent car in this city either had the means to buy the car, or had parents who were willing to.

What I do find funny, however, is that their internet sales guy just got back to me about a quote request I sent in a week ago and asked me to come in and test drive a Z :rofl2: I truly hope that other guys sees me when I do.

vividracing 11-17-2011 01:42 PM

I test drove an STI at 15, without even having my permit. Find a new dealer ;)

Next time, go in with a nice pair of jeans, some clean sneakers, and a polo. I know it's lame that you gotta dress up to test drive a car, but it's just the way it is.

theDreamer 11-17-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle (Post 1412271)
Dude, I'm not gonna lie, I find it pretty sad/pathetic that you stalk me on other forums. Way to rip off a picture of a spoiler that I was mocking up... the same spoiler a member on the other forum offered me $600 for after I spent $250 making it.

People are on multiple forums, not hard to find others. Especially if you spend more than five minutes looking at people posting.

As for the other questions/comments, I think I was dressed fairly well. I certainly didn't walk in with ripped jeans and a hoodie, just average everyday clothes. I drove in in a decent car that's very clean/excellent condition that's worth a solid 15-16k on a trade-in. The only reason I told him I hadn't started my job yet because he was insistent on running a credit check to make sure they would finance me the money, and I told him I'd probably not get approved since I'm not going to have any income coming in for 3 weeks. I even told him I had multiple people readily available to co-sign, so it wouldn't be a big deal. I realize that's not the answer he wants to hear, but c'mon, any person in sales should have the foresight to recognize that you can't make all of your sales THAT DAY. How can he expect me to even bother coming back to him when I walk in to buy one now?

You made your own mistakes, you told him you had no job, you were not going to pass the credit check. Why would you tell him this? Never discuss finance until after you are happy with driving a car and testing it first. You dug your own grave.

And yeah, I can understand wanting to keep mileage low, which is why a lot of dealerships tend to have a designated test car. This is exactly why when I bought my SI when I was 17, the 'new' car I drove had almost 300 miles on it, and the salesman told me to romp on it.

The idea of 'low' mileage is nice, but really it is a 30k car. Now if the car has 500-1000 miles already then that could be an issue as the dealership at that point will want to get it out quickly.

And not to mention, I live in a town with literally the highest Physician to non-physician ratio in the country. You HAVE to expect a lot of young people with rich parents that are willing to buy them anything. I had a relatively crappy car in high school, and I drove a brand new Civic SI. I would think anyone with half a brain would instantly assume a younger-20 year old guy driving a nice/decent car in this city either had the means to buy the car, or had parents who were willing to.

You know what happens when you assume?

What I do find funny, however, is that their internet sales guy just got back to me about a quote request I sent in a week ago and asked me to come in and test drive a Z :rofl2: I truly hope that other guys sees me when I do.

Internet sales guys usually are volume sellers so they will say anything to get you in and buy. Which is good for you because they will let you drive, can usually get the best price because they sell more and are more relaxed because they meet quotas quickly.

b1adesofcha0s 11-17-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1412356)
I test drove an STI at 15, without even having my permit. Find a new dealer ;)

Next time, go in with a nice pair of jeans, some clean sneakers, and a polo. I know it's lame that you gotta dress up to test drive a car, but it's just the way it is.

That's usually what I wear when going for a test drive. :icon17:

Though I've always wondered what would happen if I showed up to test drive a sports car dressed as the Stig. :bowrofl:

theDreamer 11-17-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1412380)
That's usually what I wear when going for a test drive. :icon17:

Though I've always wondered what would happen if I showed up to test drive a sports car dressed as the Stig. :bowrofl:

Sir, we would like to offer you a test drive in our new Porsche 911 GT3 RS, can you please make your way to our private track. Thanks.

b1adesofcha0s 11-17-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1412388)
Sir, we would like to offer you a test drive in our new Porsche 911 GT3 RS, can you please make your way to our private track. Thanks.

It would be so funny to just walk up to a dealership like that and strike the Stig pose in front of the car you were there to drive. Don't even say a word and just stand in front of it until the salesman brings you the key :icon17:

6MT 11-17-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1412401)
It would be so funny to just walk up to a dealership like that and strike the Stig pose in front of the car you were there to drive. Don't even say a word and just stand in front of it until the salesman brings you the key :icon17:

Swish!

Cafiax 11-17-2011 02:40 PM

I live in Canada and I've never experienced this problem before. When i was buying my Z sure I had my dad there but he was just looking at a Maxima when i was dealing with the salesman. He did have a coupe at the time because I bought my Z near the end of the year. I was 18 at the time but the salesman offered to let me test drive a roadster which was fun. Sealed the deal and went home and waited as they transported a Z from another city. I took a buddy of mine to a Mazda dealership to look at the RX8 It was just him and I and the salesman pretty much begged us to test drive it. I wasn't even interested in test driving the rx-8 but the salesman urged me to test drive it also even though I was not interested in buying the car at all. After test driving the rx8 ive got to say, our Z is much more fun to drive hehe. The rx8 just didnt feel like it had enough low end torque. Overall just find a dealership that's willing to deal with you and not stereotype based on your age. Don't ever put up with anyone treating you without the respect that you deserve.

AlexRaymond19 11-17-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle (Post 1411495)
I stopped by my local Nissan dealer the other day.. totally blown off on wanting to check out and test drive a Z.

I'm 22 years old, and realize I'm young and look even younger than I am, but I'm still pissed about this. I brought in my car, indicating I wanted to trade that in, which knocks about 16 grand off of what I would need to acquire in a loan. With savings, I can almost buy a new Z base package outright.

I explained to the guy that I'm starting a job in about a month from now, I have my trade-in fully paid off, etc. He flat-out told me that dealerships do not allow test drives of 'sports cars'. Surely you guys took out your Z before buying it, right? I told him that I couldn't spend 30-40k on a car in good faith without knowing I would enjoy it, first. He basically gave me his card and told me to call him if I changed my mind. Anyone else have this experience, or do I just need to go to a different dealer? I neglected to bring any parents along because I'm financing this on my own, but my dad seems to think I need to bring him along to be taken seriously. I hope that isn't the case...

Thanks

Same exact thing happened to me... If there is not another dealer close by this is what you so. Print off your account balance, or better yet just bring in a cashiers check from your bank in the amount of the down payment you want to use. I put 15k down on my Z and thats what i did. They didn't even waste their time calling me back or replying to my email until i showed up with the check... Its shitty that they do that, but such is life. If you look young they just think you are in for a joy ride...

AlexRaymond19 11-17-2011 03:27 PM

Dont get all butt hurt that this happened to you, where you can get some pay back is after you buy the car all dealers have survey and stuff that you fill out, just give them a bad review for that reason.

bleufiend 11-17-2011 08:30 PM

Like the others have said. Find a new dealer. I took out my 350z I bought when I was 22. And I bought this 370z at 27. No hassle for a test drive on either. I asked to go for a spin and they happily retrieved the key so I could take a spin in a car they hoped to sell.

Nixlimited 11-17-2011 09:56 PM

My only test drives are of GTM's SC and TT cars, haha. I wonder if the stock one is going to be a big disappointment... ;-)

awkwardturtle 11-17-2011 10:14 PM

@ theDreamer.. I'm not even sure how to respond to you.

Yes, people are on multiple forums. My point is that it's pretty pathetic that this guy keeps coming into my threads and trying to make jibes at me based off of my posts in another forum. That's sad/pathetic. I dont' even see that kind of childish crap on a civic forum, where the average age is surely less than what is is over here.

And secondly, I didn't just announce that I wasn't starting my job for a few weeks just for the hell of it. He wanted a credit check before I test drove it. At that point, what do you really expect me to say? I had two options, decline and leave the dealership, or explain my situation. I chose option B.

I'm over it, though. Plan on going in and talking w/ the internet sales guy this sat. No harm, no foul.

eastwest2300 11-17-2011 11:30 PM

Just be a prick, most of those dudes are pricks, dont take any sh*t, and be ready to walk if they're not singing your tune.

theDreamer 11-18-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by awkwardturtle (Post 1413051)
@ theDreamer.. I'm not even sure how to respond to you.

Yes, people are on multiple forums. My point is that it's pretty pathetic that this guy keeps coming into my threads and trying to make jibes at me based off of my posts in another forum. That's sad/pathetic. I dont' even see that kind of childish crap on a civic forum, where the average age is surely less than what is is over here.

And secondly, I didn't just announce that I wasn't starting my job for a few weeks just for the hell of it. He wanted a credit check before I test drove it. At that point, what do you really expect me to say? I had two options, decline and leave the dealership, or explain my situation. I chose option B.

I'm over it, though. Plan on going in and talking w/ the internet sales guy this sat. No harm, no foul.

You still picked the wrong option, option C is no credit check.
Never let them run your credit before you just test drive a car, at this level of price range. If they do not feel you are 'able' to purchase the vehicle then walk away because you are going to run into issues the whole way through with them. You honestly set yourself up and dealing with the internet sales guy might get you a test drive but he might still see you walk in and go, need to run your credit.

Jack370Z 11-18-2011 10:10 AM

Years ago when I mustered out of the US Coast Guard in Mobile, AL I went to buy a new VW. Well, I was 21 yrs old wearing flip flops, cut offs and a t-shirt. When I walked into the showroom no one even looked up so I asked "do you have any other colors". One sales guy finally said something about more out back. I went back there and picked out one. Went back to the showroom and said "I'll take the orange one". At that point they all looked up and I looked at the guy that sent me "out back" and said, again, "I'll take the orange one". He said did I plan on financing...I said "no" and pulled out a wad of cash. The other sales guys heads all fell down (chin on chest) and I smiled. Paid cash and drove it home. I really wish I had gone to the GM and asked him to help me. You just never know until you qualify a person. They just might have a pocket full on money. For as far as my Z they asked if I was planning on paying cash...I said no and handed the guy my AMEX card. They panicked...lol. :icon17:

Armonster 11-18-2011 11:17 AM

Here's what you do:

1) find a new dealer
2) be serious about buying the car (without talking about finances at all)
3) test drive car

Also, just for your own knowledge/benefit, your credit report only shows your debt. Credit cards, student loans, car loans, mortgage, etc. Your income plays NO part in your credit score. There is no reason to discuss your income, especially if you don't have one.

Edit: I just noticed the "credit check before test drive" situation that you were in. First of all, for your own financial well-being you need to go get a free credit report. Most states allow you to get one or two free per year (maybe its a federal thing, I can't remember exactly). Anyway, you need to get a better understanding of what a credit report actually is, just as a general life skill. Search online and you should be able to find it. If you have an American Express card, they give you one a year as well I think.

After you check out your credit report, you may decide that it's actually pretty good. If you always pay your bills and don't have revolving credit card debt, it probably is. In that case you can let them check it if you really want. OR, you could do what someone who KNOWS they have a good credit score would do, and tell them no. Honestly if someone told me they needed to check my credit before letting me test drive a 30k car, I would laugh at them and then either leave, or wait for them to stop being retarded and let me drive the stupid thing.

yaheard 11-18-2011 12:20 PM

Im the same age as you and was in the same spot:

Usually when I went to test drive the Challenger, the guy let me and my dad go by ourselves. Gave us a 45 minute tag or something and said have fun.

At the Nissan me and my friend went and the guy just gave us the keys and said be back in 30 minutes. I wasnt comfortable driving stick yet so the first time I went the saleman (younger guy and into cars) took me out and waled on the thing. It was fun. The second time me and my friend went.

All depends on the salesman

awkwardturtle 11-18-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1413715)
Here's what you do:

1) find a new dealer
2) be serious about buying the car (without talking about finances at all)
3) test drive car

Also, just for your own knowledge/benefit, your credit report only shows your debt. Credit cards, student loans, car loans, mortgage, etc. Your income plays NO part in your credit score. There is no reason to discuss your income, especially if you don't have one.

Edit: I just noticed the "credit check before test drive" situation that you were in. First of all, for your own financial well-being you need to go get a free credit report. Most states allow you to get one or two free per year (maybe its a federal thing, I can't remember exactly). Anyway, you need to get a better understanding of what a credit report actually is, just as a general life skill. Search online and you should be able to find it. If you have an American Express card, they give you one a year as well I think.

After you check out your credit report, you may decide that it's actually pretty good. If you always pay your bills and don't have revolving credit card debt, it probably is. In that case you can let them check it if you really want. OR, you could do what someone who KNOWS they have a good credit score would do, and tell them no. Honestly if someone told me they needed to check my credit before letting me test drive a 30k car, I would laugh at them and then either leave, or wait for them to stop being retarded and let me drive the stupid thing.

Thanks for the info, didn't know that. Next time I'll just decline

TonyD 11-18-2011 02:05 PM

You never know what yer gonna get. I say find a new dealer....

For the Z my wife and I took the sale's manager's personal car (a loaner he was using) with about 4k miles on the clock and was told to go crazy with it. (Which I did). In the end the dealer was trying to sell that car as "new" because it had never been registered. It had 4k miles and EVERY single sheet metal panel had a ding or dent on it and 3 of the rims had curb rash.

I took a Subaru STI out by myself even though I was clear with the dealer that I was not buying soon.

Drove a Mazda 3 Speed and the sales guy came with me. Same with a few other cars.

Who knows what goes on in their heads?

themann1984 11-18-2011 07:31 PM

Save up more money. Then walk in with a suitcase full of cash. They'll have their nose so far up your a$$ that you will swear they must be Pinnochio.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

kenchan 11-18-2011 08:24 PM

grow a mustache. :icon17:

awkwardturtle 11-18-2011 09:25 PM

Yeah.. **** this dealership. I specifically told them I wanted a black Nismo. Guy tells me in an email that he did a nationwide search and found one, but he'd need a deposit from me to do a trade. I go in today and there's a friggen black Nismo sitting right there. Guess next time I should actually walk around the lot instead of stopping at the first Z I see.

haitech 11-18-2011 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1414522)
grow a mustache. :icon17:

a pedo stache? :bowrofl:

mults 11-18-2011 10:36 PM

I've had it both ways. When I was 18, I wanted to test drive a 1974 Z28 (I know, I'm old) and the dealer told me to go get my dad and come back. In front of many people in the showroom, I said, `f you, my dad's not buying the car, I am!` While the salesman was thinking about a comeback, I walked out the door while giving the one finger salute.

On the other side of the coin, I was interested in a 1994 Pontiac Formula and wanted a test drive. When I asked the salesman, he threw me the keys and said, I'll see you when you get back! When I asked him if he wanted my driver's license, he said, why, you gonna steal it? Needless to say, I didn't buy the Z28, but I did buy the Formula.

So, it's all about the salesman and dealership.

alcheng 11-18-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mults (Post 1414710)
I've had it both ways. When I was 18, I wanted to test drive a 1974 Z28 (I know, I'm old) and the dealer told me to go get my dad and come back. In front of many people in the showroom, I said, `f you, my dad's not buying the car, I am!` While the salesman was thinking about a comeback, I walked out the door while giving the one finger salute.

On the other side of the coin, I was interested in a 1994 Pontiac Formula and wanted a test drive. When I asked the salesman, he threw me the keys and said, I'll see you when you get back! When I asked him if he wanted my driver's license, he said, why, you gonna steal it? Needless to say, I didn't buy the Z28, but I did buy the Formula.

So, it's all about the salesman and dealership.


I would bring my dad back to the dealership, and have my dad yell at the salesperson AND the manager, "why the hell you want to waste my time when my son is buying AND paying for the car!!!"

You can drop the 'F' bomb, it's your personal preference.

heheee

:icon18:

b1adesofcha0s 11-19-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1414522)
grow a mustache. :icon17:

Ron Swanson mustache, the manliest mustache there is.

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/g...wanson-pic.jpg

junior_jam 11-20-2011 07:31 AM

Wasn't denied a test drive. But then again, I'm fat, old, and bald.

McNasty 11-20-2011 08:11 PM

My dealer forced me to drive it too. Im only 22 as well but he knew I'm military so he knows I have a gaurunteed paycheck haha

Volk Z 02-20-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awkwardturtle (Post 1411495)
I stopped by my local Nissan dealer the other day.. totally blown off on wanting to check out and test drive a Z.

I'm 22 years old, and realize I'm young and look even younger than I am, but I'm still pissed about this. I brought in my car, indicating I wanted to trade that in, which knocks about 16 grand off of what I would need to acquire in a loan. With savings, I can almost buy a new Z base package outright.

I explained to the guy that I'm starting a job in about a month from now, I have my trade-in fully paid off, etc. He flat-out told me that dealerships do not allow test drives of 'sports cars'. Surely you guys took out your Z before buying it, right? I told him that I couldn't spend 30-40k on a car in good faith without knowing I would enjoy it, first. He basically gave me his card and told me to call him if I changed my mind. Anyone else have this experience, or do I just need to go to a different dealer? I neglected to bring any parents along because I'm financing this on my own, but my dad seems to think I need to bring him along to be taken seriously. I hope that isn't the case...

Thanks

Bought my 350Z i had when i was 21... ITs not age it may have been your approach sounds like he thought you were wasting his time.

Go to a different dealer and talk less about the final deal and more about you are adiment about test driving the car before you sign the papers. Throw some buying words out to the salesman.

Walk in there like you own that dealership brotha! :happydance:

Im 30 now and go and test drive cars a good amount just for fun :)
Test drove an EVO X and 2011 Mustang GT for the hell of it 2 weeks ago.

onzedge 02-20-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack370Z (Post 1413582)
Years ago when I mustered out of the US Coast Guard in Mobile, AL I went to buy a new VW. Well, I was 21 yrs old wearing flip flops, cut offs and a t-shirt. When I walked into the showroom no one even looked up so I asked "do you have any other colors". One sales guy finally said something about more out back. I went back there and picked out one. Went back to the showroom and said "I'll take the orange one". At that point they all looked up and I looked at the guy that sent me "out back" and said, again, "I'll take the orange one". He said did I plan on financing...I said "no" and pulled out a wad of cash. The other sales guys heads all fell down (chin on chest) and I smiled. Paid cash and drove it home. I really wish I had gone to the GM and asked him to help me. You just never know until you qualify a person. They just might have a pocket full on money. For as far as my Z they asked if I was planning on paying cash...I said no and handed the guy my AMEX card. They panicked...lol. :icon17:

:tiphat: :tup:

Pintsize725 02-20-2012 07:54 PM

When I first started shopping around for a used Z, the salesman laughed when I told him I wouldn't take anything else. He tried to force an Altima coupe on me stating that "with the new engine, it's like having a V6. And FWD is what you want." I didn't back down and at the end of our conversation he said "I don't want to sell you a car that you are going to be street racing in and causing trouble." I am 25 and I guess due to my height I look like I'm younger.

AreJay 02-20-2012 08:15 PM

I'm 22 and the first thing they did was ask for a test drive. I didn't even know how to drive a standard and salesmen took me to the park and taught me in the brand spanking new Z with 80 miles lol. I stalled out a few times. But in the end I bought that same Z.

r1eater 02-20-2012 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1411633)
How were you dressed?

I find it hard to believe they would deny a test drive on a 370 just because you look young.

happens to me all the time, I'm in my mid 30's but look like mid to early 20's. Its a blessing and a curse sometimes...

Polymorphic 02-20-2012 11:41 PM

That's complete B.S. I'm 24 and look like I'm 18, I just bought my z yesterday. I went over to the dealership about a month ago for a test drive, told the salesman I wanted to test drive a Z and he replied, "Let's go for a ride". You should have just approached a different salesman at the dealership and talked to them about the z.


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