I think the 370z is a bit more than a sportified G37. All those things you listed above are of course completely possible for Nissan to do. BUT, it requires additional R&D which means more money. More money in the research, development and production phases means passing this cost on to consumers which Nissan saw as something they couldn't afford.

For me, the fact that the car is as competent as it is for a low to mid $30k car is pretty amazing. It may not be the most refined in some areas, but it is a very reliable and robust entry level sports car with great performance.


My opinion on my Z:

I have had my car for roughly a year and 3 months now and I have loved every minute of it. After adding an oil cooler and select bolt ons, I feel as if my Z is the perfect balance of power, handling, and comfort. It can outperform many much more expensive and powerful cars and it looks unique and special, one thing that I hold as an important factor in the Z.

As for the complaints of transmission refinement, noise levels and a rough feeling engine at high rpms, I actually enjoy them. Quarks are what give a car character, and those attributes make the 370z feel raw and almost 'back to the basics' in a day and age where car companies are fighting to make the smoothest and most refined cars.

The only thing I will say that I notice and don't like is the way the 6mt shifts, especially when cold. However, I am going to be putting some Redline trans fluid in soon which many have found to help with smoother shifting, less drivetrain noise and a more enjoyable MT experience in general. But if you look at how the stock manual trans can handle 500-600rwhp without even breaking a sweat, those quibbles quickly don't seem to be that bad anymore.

yep agreed, the S2K's have very nimble handling but unless one totally f-ked up the alignment or messed up the wheels/suspension setup it should drive very solidly straight or through the corners.

hello, mr. onzedge! :tup:

hope your trip is going well.

...back to zzZZzzZz's :yawn: topic...

Thank you Mr. Kenchan. I am back as of this morning. :hello:

sounds good! so you're enjoying your Z today. :tup:

I drove the Echo today -- my wife is still in SD and it was wet up here. The Z's are all nice and clean and I did not have the heart to take either of them through puddles today.

Hey, wrong thread:p

How would you describe the driving feel of the Echo?

Would you say it's too raw or too refined?

Did Toyota not decide who they were making the car for?

I was going to answer this, but I am too busy choking on my lunch -- Very Good, Shado.

yah, that's a good idea indeed! :tup:

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:bowrofl: hahaha!

THIS THIS THIS THIS! :iagree: with a rep point.

People are so lost in articles and comparisons of tech and speed that they forget balance. Back to basics. Those are the words that sum up the Z. A true drivers car. Turn that VDC off and feel what this car is. Its what the best cars of the past with more precision, better track times, better gas mileage and a modernized suspension. I feel the old Z and porsches from yesterday. I feel the original M3. I feel the souls of so many of the past greats in one modern package. There's improvements that are needed. But JDM is all about personalization of excellent platforms and improving stock performance. Its just another way of percieving automotive or enjoyment. You adapt or you don't.
This car has its own mission while paying homage to the greats in its performance.

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa.... and you know, that was blatant sarcasm. Lol

:tup: ofcourse! :icon17:

zZZZzzZz doenst seem to get sarcasm.

Sounds like a MOD list to me. If that's what you need? Buy a sprint booster, customize your clutch, see stillen for a pulley and flywheel kit, and you're done. Cheaper than a ferrari huh???? You're BOGUS DUDE.

add washer mod. he can't tell. :D ;)