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Skeeterbop 10-04-2011 10:00 PM

I would say it probably would be great in the World Challenge series competing in the GTS class, Possibly even the GT class.

Pharmacist 10-04-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1344326)
The GT3 RS really isn't a race car, it's a track day car that just happens to be street legal.

The actual race variants would be like the Porsche 911 Cup or the GT3 R, and both of those would be at least one class above the NISMO RC.

Why not? I know it's not a proper race car like a cup or R or even RSR, but it's 99.999% of a race car. Really, only a roll cage, fire suppression, and fuel cell is all that's needed to make it into a race car.

Pharmacist 10-04-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeeterbop (Post 1344329)
I would say it probably would be great in the World Challenge series competing in the GTS class, Possibly even the GT class.

Isn't GT too extreme? It's only a 350hp slightly modified nismo. GT is cars like corvettes and 911 GT3 and Vipers.

m4a1mustang 10-04-2011 10:49 PM

It wasn't designed with the idea of wheel-to-wheel competition like the NISMO RC, 911 Cup, etc. It doesn't fit within any classification of racing series like the other purpose built racers do. That's all I'm getting at.

Chances are the NISMO RC will be good-to-go for racing in a series like the Continental Tire series. You couldn't take a GT3 RS and run it in that series without some major overhauling, likely including de-tuning it to fit regulation.

m4a1mustang 10-04-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1344414)
Isn't GT too extreme? It's only a 350hp slightly modified nismo. GT is cars like corvettes and 911 GT3 and Vipers.

Yes, GT is probably too high for the RC.

cossie1600 10-04-2011 11:00 PM

It's just a car with a cage and other endurance equipment, not exactly spec GT3 race cars....

SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge- carfacts

Car doesn't have enough to run in ALMS. Good luck getting ACO to certify the car into GTC class, they only allow the GT3 in right now. Nissan can use some money to bribe them though

Skeeterbop 10-04-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1344414)
Isn't GT too extreme? It's only a 350hp slightly modified nismo. GT is cars like corvettes and 911 GT3 and Vipers.

GT might be a bit high, but I do think it would be a good fit in GTS. It would be racing with the likes of Mustangs, TSX's, and Camaros.

alcheng 10-05-2011 01:14 AM

Check the following links, much more details about this NISMO RC:

NISSAN FAIRLADY ZNISMO RC

And Read the last line on the 'Notes', it says:

"- This car can not be used on public roads or be registered for such a license."

And look at the specs, then we have a better idea on what is this Fairlady NISMO RC.

I don't understand, why would we compare this car, a factory race car, to a street-mod car.

cheers

;)

takjak2 10-05-2011 08:22 AM

I see this as the replacement for the 350Zs running in SuperGT GT300 class; the Japanese series.

HKYStormFront 10-05-2011 08:29 AM

the car was pretty impressive in person honestly, i dunno if it was $150k impressive tho. i think it should be more in the $80-90k range honestly. it does take some time and work to build a car like this but not that much :\

travisjb 10-05-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 1344657)
I see this as the replacement for the 350Zs running in SuperGT GT300 class; the Japanese series.

Those have stock body/aero?

Ron 10-05-2011 09:18 AM

I want those air ducts!

travisjb 10-05-2011 10:51 AM

these will do the trick and fit well on non-nismo bumper cover

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...903_090009.jpg

i think they were $30 at summit racing

KillerBee370 10-05-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 1344847)
these will do the trick and fit well on non-nismo bumper cover

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/u...903_090009.jpg

i think they were $30 at summit racing

Hmmm... I like these

Nabi 10-06-2011 01:56 PM

So any word on how to get those brake ducts?????:confused:

Cmike2780 10-06-2011 02:26 PM

Anyone else notice the wheels and tires setup isn't staggered. I'm a noob to this type of racing. Is this common?

Also, no intake upgrade? Not even the air filter? Seems rather odd, especially for an out the box race car.

HKYStormFront 10-06-2011 02:35 PM

most race cars have a fairly square setup. i was reading an article comparing road cars to race cars last night and most are only running 10mm difference front to rear if not all square. reason being that most drivers prefer to have more front end grip than a street car. the reason for staggered setups on current street RWD cars is to help induce understeer (safer, easier to control) instead of oversteer (much more dangerous for people who don't know what they are doing behind the wheel)

travisjb 10-06-2011 02:42 PM

I drive a square setup for the reason stated above and to help with tire management... can swap front/rear and side/side to even out wear and get an extra 20-30% tire life... i also have lots of rear aero that you wont' find on a street car so at speed rear traction is no issue... and for slow speed corners having the back end a little "lose" can help point the car for corner exit... I am NOT talking about drifting just managing the car with very slight brake control or throttle or speed to get the car pointed in the right direction to "track out" of a corner... with a proper diff it is fairly easy to control this car in oversteer

m4a1mustang 10-06-2011 02:44 PM

Spot-on, Patrick.

Now some cars that have quite a bit of weight behind the rear axle (*cough* Porsche 911 *cough*) often require quite a bit of stagger to keep the rear end in line.

I prefer square setups for balance and tire life.

HKYStormFront 10-06-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 1346843)
I drive a square setup for the reason stated above and to help with tire management... can swap front/rear and side/side to even out wear and get an extra 20-30% tire life... i also have lots of rear aero that you wont' find on a street car so at speed rear traction is no issue... and for slow speed corners having the back end a little "lose" can help point the car for corner exit... I am NOT talking about drifting just managing the car with very slight brake control or throttle or speed to get the car pointed in the right direction to "track out" of a corner... with a proper diff it is fairly easy to control this car in oversteer

exactly^

Pharmacist 10-06-2011 03:43 PM

I might get slightly bigger front wheels in the future just to dial out some of the annoying understeer on the track.

Shamu 10-15-2011 10:57 AM

I see this as viable car in Japan and Europe. Need to consider Yen verses USD isn't helping this cars price here.

Even at around $150k it's fairly reasonable for turn key factory racer. Current price for new Porsche GT3 cup car starts at $210k USD.

They have really done awesome job addressing key weaknesses in the z34 platform. Very well focused on every issue I'm aware on this car. I do wonder if they addressed the oil pump gear issue with a billet gear set? Is the car seam welded?

Rear diff and tranny cooling, real Bosch system to control systems ( that's $8k option alone). the cage is awesome. Anyone who has built a race car from production car will appreciate what Autech has don here. They have put a ton of engineering and development into this turnkey race car. Little items like no undercoating are nice touches too!

I'm sure main markets for the RC are in Japan and Europe touring car and endurance series. 370z seems to do well in UK touring car series. A race team in UK could just buy 3 cars and not have to hire as many employees to build and design cars. You have to consider economics of bigger sponsored race teams when considering this price. Turn key race cars pay for themselves. I noted maintenance contract available as well. This would allow you to have truly factory supported car. Also from spare standpoint you can go to Nismo and just order parts that fit right on the car. No special fabrication etc. There's some real merit to that if youre in a serious race series.

Having seen amount of time, resources etc in US based Grand Am teams I can assure you race teams would be hard pressed to sell a 370z grand am car and make any money at $150k. Probably closer to $200k or more. FYI the RC car doesn't have enough motor to be competitive in the Grand Am Conti series. Those cars make well over 400 hp and are spinning over 8500 rpm.

Biggest question I have is can we get these parts through Nismo USA? I'd love rear diff cooler, AC delete plate, some of interior pieces, etc

Ron 10-15-2011 11:07 AM

I sent them an email about the brake ducts and they replied saying none of the parts are nor will be available for retail. That is to nismo japan though.

From: TAKAHASHI, HIDEKI [mailto:hideki_takahashi@mail.nismo.co.jp]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:09 AM
To: Ronny Obando
Cc: xxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: NISSAN FAIRLADY Z NISMO RC

Dear Mr. Obando,

Thank you for your email.

We sell the front bumper carbon fiber ducts only to the customer who
bought the car. The same applies to the rest of the parts.
And we won’t sell them separately in the future as well.

Best regards,

Hideki TAKAHASHI
nismo
________________________________________
From: Ronny Obando [mailto:xxxx@rig.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 6:42 AM
To: TAKAHASHI, HIDEKI
Cc: xxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: NISSAN FAIRLADY Z NISMO RC

Hello :

Are the front bumper carbon fiber ducts from the NISSAN FAIRLADY Z NISMO RC available to be purchased separately? If not, will they be on the future?

Best Regards,

Ronny Obando

Dustin@Z1 10-15-2011 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1360259)
From: TAKAHASHI, HIDEKI [mailto:hideki_takahashi@mail.nismo.co.jp]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:09 AM
To: Ronny Obando
Cc: xxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: NISSAN FAIRLADY Z NISMO RC

Dear Mr. Obando,

Thank you for your email.

We sell the front bumper carbon fiber ducts only to the customer who
bought the car. The same applies to the rest of the parts.
And we won’t sell them separately in the future as well.

Best regards,

Hideki TAKAHASHI
nismo

Most likely that will change in time once Nissan Motorsports starts to sell (*hopefully) some of the Grand-Am spec NISMO's.

I am sure they will eventually add the parts to the catalog, but at what price....who knows.

Red__Zed 10-15-2011 11:48 AM

not surprising..

Shamu 10-15-2011 11:57 AM

Yeah once they have sold a few cars I bet this will change. I want that exhaust system too. I have received similar emails from this same gentleman only to find access to Nismo part he said wouldn't be available in US here a couple months later.

I'd love to use Nismo factory parts on my car.

FL 4Motion 10-15-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 1360284)
Most likely that will change in time once Nissan Motorsports starts to sell (*hopefully) some of the Grand-Am spec NISMO's.

I am sure they will eventually add the parts to the catalog, but at what price....who knows.

I'd love to put some of these Nismo parts (esp brake ducting kit) on our car. HOWEVER, maybe you guys could create a "Z1 Brake ducting kit" similar in design to this Nismo one that us folks could purchase from y'all. :tup:

Ron 10-15-2011 05:11 PM

I asked Carbon Signal if they would replicate it and they said they will look into it once they have some time off... you know..

Pharmacist 10-15-2011 11:21 PM

Couldn't care less about Nismo. Their parts are too overpriced and underperforming. If some parts do trickle down to the production 370z I'm sure they will have a hefty mark up in price and won't be any better than aftermarket parts already available e.g. exhaust, oil coolers, brakes, etc.

fuct 10-17-2011 09:06 AM

all the market needs is some good ol pictures of these systems and replicas can be made for a reasonable about. the nissan engineers put in the R&D, so im sure these oil cooler/brake duct designs are some of the best around.

NYBladeZ 10-17-2011 03:24 PM

Hmm, I wonder how this car would fair against some shop built race cars and member track dedicated cars we have on there.

koffeegy 05-22-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 1341281)
http://jpmcgphotography.smugmug.com/...L/MG8046-L.jpg

Besides all of the other awesomeness on these cars, this I want.

:iagree:

Does anyone know where to either buy this front bumper or where to buy the intake pieces? And can someone advise if the ducts are for cold air intakes or are they for the breaks?

Thanks in advance,

HKYStormFront 05-22-2012 04:19 PM

they are for the brakes and i think Dustin@Z1 was trying to source the parts from Nismo Japan

takjak2 05-22-2012 06:51 PM

Dwnshift with the Doran racing team and the #001 RC Chassis recently confirmed that the nismo brake ducts are now available from nissan motorsports.

koffeegy 05-22-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 1731711)
Dwnshift with the Doran racing team and the #001 RC Chassis recently confirmed that the nismo brake ducts are now available from nissan motorsports.

Is there a website for that and a price?

LiquidCrewZ 05-22-2012 09:25 PM

That's pretty awesome. I want to do that with my z

whoady4shoady 07-07-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koffeegy (Post 1731847)
Is there a website for that and a price?

I dont know man, but they look nice. Ill let you buy them and install them for me. :happydance:

Shamu 07-07-2012 10:39 PM

Do they show in specs that they use 350z heads?

dastaco 07-07-2012 11:23 PM

The stock RC does not use 350 heads.

RyanWest 07-08-2012 02:48 PM

way to expensive


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