Must read now 370 vs Camaro.. !!

spearfish25 · 05-11-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzoh

If only Nissan would put a V8 in the Z it would be a monster.

It would also be much heavier and lose some its incredible cornering ability.

Izzoh · 05-11-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

It would also be much heavier and lose some its incredible cornering ability.

Nah I mean look at the V8's we have today they've gotten a alot lighter and more compact plus best of all more efficent. Instead of adding displace to a V6 and reving it to hell to get the numbers they could drop a 4.5 to 5 liter V8 get the numbers and a hell of alot more and then couple that with their attention to suspension and it might only add maybe a couple hundred pounds .... still would be a beast.

g35300mm · 05-11-2009, 05:39 PM

How can people or anyone in their right mind invest all their time, money, and patients into a vehicle that represents nothing but a poor excuse of a automotive company? i really dont care for gm or how long they have been around. because when you have the balls to threaten peoples job's, pensions, and overall job security because you cant keep up with basic industry demands then you simply dont desrve to even have a forum!! so let them put down a company (nissan) who will keep pumping out cars while the poor GM workers who built that piece of junk have to now seek other work!

MightyBobo · 05-11-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by g35300mm

How can people or anyone in their right mind invest all their time, money, and patients into a vehicle that represents nothing but a poor excuse of a automotive company? i really dont care for gm or how long they have been around. because when you have the balls to threaten peoples job's, pensions, and overall job security because you cant keep up with basic industry demands then you simply dont desrve to even have a forum!! so let them put down a company (nissan) who will keep pumping out cars while the poor GM workers who built that piece of junk have to now seek other work!

You say it like nissan hasnt done anything that put anyone out of a job...

Izzoh · 05-11-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by g35300mm

How can people or anyone in their right mind invest all their time, money, and patients into a vehicle that represents nothing but a poor excuse of a automotive company? i really dont care for gm or how long they have been around. because when you have the balls to threaten peoples job's, pensions, and overall job security because you cant keep up with basic industry demands then you simply dont desrve to even have a forum!! so let them put down a company (nissan) who will keep pumping out cars while the poor GM workers who built that piece of junk have to now seek other work!

Lets not go there Nissan in the late 90's was in pretty bad shape until they got bailed out and Ghosen came in and turned things around for the better.

I not looking for a war here there was enough of that when I was trying to do a little research on the Camaro forum. All I'm looking for is some good conversation.

RoccoSiffredi · 05-11-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by g35300mm

How can people or anyone in their right mind invest all their time, money, and patients into a vehicle that represents nothing but a poor excuse of a automotive company? i really dont care for gm or how long they have been around. because when you have the balls to threaten peoples job's, pensions, and overall job security because you cant keep up with basic industry demands then you simply dont desrve to even have a forum!! so let them put down a company (nissan) who will keep pumping out cars while the poor GM workers who built that piece of junk have to now seek other work!

1.) It's not a piece of junk. It performs quite well and is a bargain at that price.
2.) Most of the employment issues you identify above are direct contributors to GM's current state of affairs.

SiXK · 05-12-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RoccoSiffredi

1.) It's not a piece of junk. It performs quite well and is a bargain at that price.
2.) Most of the employment issues you identify above are direct contributors to GM's current state of affairs.

a bargain? hmmmm... what would make it a bargain? doesn't it sticker in the high 30's for a SS?

Izzoh · 05-12-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger

a bargain? hmmmm... what would make it a bargain? doesn't it sticker in the high 30's for a SS?

I believe the 1SS is 31k and the 2SS 34k

SiXK · 05-12-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Izzoh

I believe the 1SS is 31k and the 2SS 34k

True, but thats with no options. The $34K will probably be $38K in reality. To me thats not a bargain for a camaro whose only real strength is straight ahead speed.

I'm biased of course, I really don't like the car much. I am not digging the retro styling (get an original idea GM) and giant size of the car. At the very least they should have ended the retro before they designed the interior. I am glad Nissan has stayed away from the boat steering wheels like the camaro and challenger have.

I am glad, however, that GM made the thing. same with the Mustand GT and Challenger, I am glad other car companies are making performance oriented cars.

MC · 05-12-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Izzoh

I believe the 1SS is 31k and the 2SS 34k

the 2SS i saw at the dealer was like 39,300 or something

Diversion · 05-11-2009, 05:59 PM

Nissan laid off 20,000+ workers earlier this year... everybody's having a hard time.

ssqpolo · 05-11-2009, 06:09 PM

hennessy...ya their rep sucks, but they supercharged the camaro ss and got this
Hennessey Camaro SS Makes 562-Horsepower on the Dyno | Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

562 supercharged hp. damn. anyway. for discussion purposes. it is a straight line car, the Z is more a track car.

awesomez · 05-11-2009, 06:24 PM

As a past owner of a 5.7 Liter V8 GM as well as 350Z and as many as 10 other cars and now 370Z, I must say GM just about fell apart by the time I reached 80K miles. My 350Z engine sounded new at 80K. I got rid of it shortly after to get a new 370Z but to that point it was by far the most reliable car I owned. (All the cars I owned were sport cars). That's one of the reasons I bought the new one.

MightyBobo · 05-11-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by awesomez

As a past owner of a 5.7 Liter V8 GM as well as 350Z and as many as 10 other cars and now 370Z, I must say GM just about fell apart by the time I reached 80K miles. My 350Z engine sounded new at 80K. I got rid of it shortly after to get a new 370Z but to that point it was by far the most reliable car I owned. (All the cars I owned were sport cars). That's one of the reasons I bought the new one.

"Just about fell apart" - descriptive lol. A "5.7L V8 GM" could be any 346ci engine they've made in a long time, too. Might want to elaborate, because for all I know, we're talking about a 1984 Corvette, with one of the worst SBC's ever incarnated...

awesomez · 05-11-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

"Just about fell apart" - descriptive lol. A "5.7L V8 GM" could be any 346ci engine they've made in a long time, too. Might want to elaborate, because for all I know, we're talking about a 1984 Corvette, with one of the worst SBC's ever incarnated...

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05-11-2009, 06:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
ssqpolo Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 882 Drives: '12 Black Nismo Rep Power: 268	im not a fan of domestics, but these are some good numbers hennessy...ya their rep sucks, but they supercharged the camaro ss and got this Hennessey Camaro SS Makes 562-Horsepower on the Dyno \| Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line 562 supercharged hp. damn. anyway. for discussion purposes. it is a straight line car, the Z is more a track car.

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g35300mm Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: canada Posts: 128 Drives: g35 coupe Rep Power: 17	How can people or anyone in their right mind invest all their time, money, and patients into a vehicle that represents nothing but a poor excuse of a automotive company? i really dont care for gm or how long they have been around. because when you have the balls to threaten peoples job's, pensions, and overall job security because you cant keep up with basic industry demands then you simply dont desrve to even have a forum!! so let them put down a company (nissan) who will keep pumping out cars while the poor GM workers who built that piece of junk have to now seek other work!

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