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Lug 04-25-2009 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 62854)
I think is printing error,Nissan says the Auto version hit 0-100km/h in 6.2 secs,but i only can get 6.8 secs,the best time.

I get 5.8 sec in my 350Z auto. Something is seriously wrong with your time.

Forumite 04-25-2009 06:57 AM

This cant be right. Auto's are far inferior to a manual.

/sarcasm off

Old Chuck 04-25-2009 07:12 AM

I would think that
 
these times (if true) are due more to a stronger engine then most. While Nissan auto's are good they are not dual clutch units like the PDK or used on the Ferrari and Lambo. I would still think the manual, car for car, would be a tad quicker with a professional driver. With an average driver, then I would give the nod to the auto in most situations that call for straight line acceleration. Again, I would have to see more tests with different cars to believe this test. I, am however, a sceptic under most conditions.

Endgame 04-25-2009 09:25 AM

GUYS!! THe G37 7AT was faster than the G37 6MT. The 7AT is faster. Look it up!

This is not unexpected.

Something else: WHy would they lie? There are great reputation risk associated with that!

Educ8r 04-25-2009 09:59 AM

That's what I was going to say. It's amazing how people try to disprove the findings of these car magazines. I think they know a little about what they test. But hey, what do I know?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 62934)
GUYS!! THe G37 7AT was faster than the G37 6MT. The 7AT is faster. Look it up!

This is not unexpected.

Something else: WHy would they lie? There are great reputation risk associated with that!


juan05 04-25-2009 10:15 AM

again there is NO way auto is faster than manual in the 370z. NO way i read auto 0-60 around 5 secs but no or never lower than 5

wellarmed 04-25-2009 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 62950)
again there is NO way auto is faster than manual in the 370z. NO way i read auto 0-60 around 5 secs but no or never lower than 5

Well......:ugh2: The expert has spoken! There is "no way" the auto can be faster!

Juan may very well be able to shift his manual as fast as this auto paddle shifts at full throttle without lifting. He may also be able to explaine to the service manager at his local dealer why the syncros are shot and it won't go into gear anymore without grinding after doing that.... Good luck :rolleyes:

These results are likely due to a couple of things.

1..... A slightly faster than normal car. They are not all exactly the same and some are just going to be at the top of the heap when they're all compared to each other.
2..... Conditions that effect performance at the track on that given day.

Cool/dry air and sea level conditions can be a huge factor when it comes to performance as compared to warm/humid high altitude conditions.
When performance numbers are compared you have to remember that they are not all happening under the same conditions.
With that mph I'm going to bet they had some low density altitude conditions in this case.

Back in the old days the American auto competitors would send in a ringer to pump up performance numbers for a first test.
There just isn't any way that Nissan would be doing that with a car like this that is being mass tested by every mag in existance.
The people testing this car in this case don't have any reason to be misleading either. If there were after market parts involved then that would be another story.

Educ8r 04-25-2009 10:51 AM

Credentials? What's the recorded time on your 370?


Quote:

Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 62950)
again there is NO way auto is faster than manual in the 370z. NO way i read auto 0-60 around 5 secs but no or never lower than 5


Educ8r 04-25-2009 10:55 AM

Here is another misleading magazine source full of lies...
MotorTrend:rofl2:

http://img.skitch.com/20090425-pk1a7...fmk4ice6cn.jpg

It's not an automatic, but still it's under 5.0.

Lug 04-25-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Educ8r (Post 62945)
That's what I was going to say. It's amazing how people try to disprove the findings of these car magazines. I think they know a little about what they test. But hey, what do I know?

The problem is that those numbers just don't add up to the weight and amount of HP/torque the car has, auto OR manual. 90% of the reviews are getting 4.9 to 5.0, only MotorTrend got a 4.7 and it beating cars that are lighter, have more HP and significantly more torque. The tranny can make a difference, but it's not going to change the laws of physics. I'd LOVE for the auto to be that quick becuase that's what I'll be getting, but those numbers just don't add up. Also, another article tested the auto side by side with the manual and it came up .2 sec slower (which is an amazing feat for a slushbox in any case). Traditionally. it's usually around .5 sec. As far as the G37, you can't really comare two different tests that are several months appart (if I remember correctly). You also can't just go with the reviews that agree with you.

Educ8r 04-25-2009 11:21 AM

I bow out gracefully, Car and Driver and MotorTrend clearly are idiots and the experts reside here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 62966)
The problem is that those numbers just don't add up to the weight and amount of HP/torque the car has, auto OR manual. 90% of the reviews are getting 4.9 to 5.0, only MotorTrend got a 4.7 and it beating cars that are lighter, have more HP and significantly more torque. The tranny can make a difference, but it's not going to change the laws of physics. I'd LOVE for the auto to be that quick becuase that's what I'll be getting, but those numbers just don't add up. Also, another article tested the auto side by side with the manual and it came up .2 sec slower (which is an amazing feat for a slushbox in any case). Traditionally. it's usually around .5 sec. As far as the G37, you can't really comare two different tests that are several months appart (if I remember correctly). You also can't just go with the reviews that agree with you.


Lug 04-25-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Educ8r (Post 62979)
I bow out gracefully, Car and Driver and MotorTrend clearly are idiots and the experts reside here.

MotorTrend's numbers are with a manual.

****
Locked and loaded with a 332-horsepower, 3.7-liter VQ37VHR V-6 and unique "SynchroRev Match" six-speed manual, which blips the throttle on downshifts without a heel-toe maneuver, the Z rips to 60 in just 4.7 ticks on its way to a quarter-mile run of 13.3 at 105.7. While not an equal to the DBS, the 370Z is speedier than the racebred 306-horse. 3.5-liter Nismo 350Z we tested in 2007, which ran 4.9 and 13.5 at 103.9, respectively, thus making the 370 the quickest production Z we've ever tested.
*****

.....and getting 4.9 out of a stock 350Z? I've never seen anyone else do that. If you want to magazine race, we can find a WHOLE bunch of 4.9's 5.0's and 5.1's and even 5.2's. Even C and D got a 4.9 last time they ran the car. 4.6 just isn't logical.

wellarmed 04-25-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 62966)
The problem is that those numbers just don't add up to the weight and amount of HP/torque the car has, auto OR manual. 90% of the reviews are getting 4.9 to 5.0, only MotorTrend got a 4.7 and it beating cars that are lighter, have more HP and significantly more torque. The tranny can make a difference, but it's not going to change the laws of physics. I'd LOVE for the auto to be that quick becuase that's what I'll be getting, but those numbers just don't add up. Also, another article tested the auto side by side with the manual and it came up .2 sec slower (which is an amazing feat for a slushbox in any case). Traditionally. it's usually around .5 sec. As far as the G37, you can't really comare two different tests that are several months appart (if I remember correctly). You also can't just go with the reviews that agree with you.

0 TO 60 times are very subjective. Exactly how is that being measured right down to the .00 mph and .00 sec? The speedo? G-meter? GPS? Radar?
Personally... I don't believe any of these 0-60 times as being absolutely accurate.

The quarter mile oth..... If this test was done on a drag strip with NHRA sanctioned equipment, you can't just go saying "that's not right". The timing equipment on a legit track doesn't lie.
In this case the mph and et are right in line with each other so if this test was done on a legit dragstrip then it did it. Unless you think the testers are lieing.

One last thing.... this auto isn't a slushbox. A point that I think will be painfully proven to some who don't have one as time goes by.

Endgame 04-25-2009 12:08 PM

Lug.. give it up...

And remember the tranny on your 350Z is not remotely near the same tranny on this Z.

zman1910 04-25-2009 12:33 PM

This thread is ridiculous....LOL at all the manny tranny drivers getting insecure.


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