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-   -   Insurance Institute announces that the Z (350) tops the most fatality list (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/37799-insurance-institute-announces-z-350-tops-most-fatality-list.html)

USMCASA 06-09-2011 01:44 PM

to be honest, who wouldn't want to go out in there Z? much cooler than death by a spider bite on your butt or falling off a ladder.

dad 06-09-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1160216)
Looks to me like the mustang GT had a lot less problems relating to medical injury than the 350Z did. I rest my case.

:bowrofl:

SeattleLion 06-09-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1159810)
I don't like crash ratings. It has made all cars fatter and less maneuverable. More likely to survive an accident, but less likely to brake or swerve in time to avoid one.

The Z isn't crash rated. The Insurance Institute doesn't test them because there aren't enough sold. Neither the 350 or 370 have been crash tested.

dad 06-09-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleLion (Post 1160419)
The Z isn't crash rated. The Insurance Institute doesn't test them because there aren't enough sold. Neither the 350 or 370 have been crash tested.

Wrong!
Google

Econ 06-09-2011 03:09 PM

:owned:

SeattleLion 06-09-2011 03:12 PM

It seems that there are a couple of themes here:

The 350, in particular, is bought by inexperienced or reckless drivers. Ok, maybe that is true. However as pointed out, Mustangs are in a similar price bracket and are way safer in terms of both fatalities and insurance claims for collision, etc. So, if drivers are to blame, are we claiming that the 350 is a magnet for people prone to overdrive their skills?

The design is flawed. This is very interesting. Both the 350 and 370 are true rear wheel driven sports cars. While many complain about the VDC, it is way less aggressive than stability controls on other cars. The 370 sport (not sure about base) comes equipped with summer tires. These tires are less-than-sticky below 50 deg F and not incredible on very wet surfaces. Perhaps that contributes to the problem. I never drove a 350, but my 370 is not tail happy at all and is very difficult to drive into understeer with the VDC on. I tried hard to make it understeer when I took HPD school a couple of months ago. I had to push to 60mph before I could get it to slip. Even then, it recovered almost instantly.

Most of us have been driving 370's for a while. Nobody on this thread pointed out any obvious safety issues (at least so far). There has to be a reason for the 350 ending up as the car with the most fatalities per million registered vehicles. The 370 is certainly an improvement over the 350, but it is also smaller and more powerful. I've noticed that SUV's have a habit of trying to cross into my lane when they are right next to me. It's happened at least 5 times in the 9 months I have had my Z. Could it be that blind spot crashes on freeways is the killer? Anyone notice any consistent issues that could cause a fatal crash?

kenchan 06-09-2011 03:14 PM

most of these crashes probably happened due to stupidity.
i suppose there is a survival of the fittest going on here... be smart drive safe.

FromG2Z 06-09-2011 03:22 PM

This statistic is further proof that if the 350Z had Miata doors, it would be at the BOTTOM of the list of fatalities.

We need to start a petition, in the name of safety, to have Nissan issue a TSB/recall to install Miata doors on our 370's.

shadoquad 06-09-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleLion (Post 1160456)
It seems that there are a couple of themes here:

The 350, in particular, is bought by inexperienced or reckless drivers. Ok, maybe that is true. However as pointed out, Mustangs are in a similar price bracket and are way safer in terms of both fatalities and insurance claims for collision, etc. So, if drivers are to blame, are we claiming that the 350 is a magnet for people prone to overdrive their skills?

The design is flawed. This is very interesting. Both the 350 and 370 are true rear wheel driven sports cars. While many complain about the VDC, it is way less aggressive than stability controls on other cars. The 370 sport (not sure about base) comes equipped with summer tires. These tires are less-than-sticky below 50 deg F and not incredible on very wet surfaces. Perhaps that contributes to the problem. I never drove a 350, but my 370 is not tail happy at all and is very difficult to drive into understeer with the VDC on. I tried hard to make it understeer when I took HPD school a couple of months ago. I had to push to 60mph before I could get it to slip. Even then, it recovered almost instantly.

Most of us have been driving 370's for a while. Nobody on this thread pointed out any obvious safety issues (at least so far). There has to be a reason for the 350 ending up as the car with the most fatalities per million registered vehicles. The 370 is certainly an improvement over the 350, but it is also smaller and more powerful. I've noticed that SUV's have a habit of trying to cross into my lane when they are right next to me. It's happened at least 5 times in the 9 months I have had my Z. Could it be that blind spot crashes on freeways is the killer? Anyone notice any consistent issues that could cause a fatal crash?


Base model comes with summer tires, too. And they're really slick in winter.

Can't ignore that the Z has terrible rear visibility and is a smaller car than the Mustang, which makes it less visible on the road.

cptspeed 06-09-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1159972)
People don't realize the 350 is a lot more tail happy than the 370, most of the drivers can't drive it.

I think the 350 was much easier to control in a drift than the 370!

cossie1600 06-09-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 1160635)
I think the 350 was much easier to control in a drift than the 370!

majority of drivers cant drive sideways....

seattlelion, you drive a 350 and you will understand how it is easier to crash a 350. the extreme stagger and abls really make it tougher to drive sideways on the 370

6MT 06-09-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1160481)
This statistic is further proof that if the 350Z had Miata doors, it would be at the BOTTOM of the list of fatalities.

We need to start a petition, in the name of safety, to have Nissan issue a TSB/recall to install Miata doors on our 370's.

:bowrofl::inoutroflpuke:

m4a1mustang 06-09-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1160481)
This statistic is further proof that if the 350Z had Miata doors, it would be at the BOTTOM of the list of fatalities.

We need to start a petition, in the name of safety, to have Nissan issue a TSB/recall to install Miata doors on our 370's.

Agreed!

Mt Tam I am 06-09-2011 05:33 PM

Did the 350 have a VDC? People talk about the 370 as a widow maker without VDC. I think it is too much car too little skill.

dad 06-09-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1160883)
Did the 350 have a VDC? People talk about the 370 as a widow maker without VDC. I think it is too much car too little skill.

Yes, the 350 had VDC.


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