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onzedge 06-09-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1159798)
Yeah when he took it back to the dealer where he bought it
the car had never had it's oil changed or anything!!!!
He drove it like he stole it down to one quart.
It locks up. So no coverage. He got what he deserved

How many miles did the guy drive before he took it back with one quart?

FromG2Z 06-09-2011 10:50 AM

ok I may be naive, but is sticking with manufacturer "recommended" (emphasis on recommended) tasks ESSENTIAL to getting approved warranty work?

Don't get me wrong, of course I do all the recommended (and at times beyond recommended) maintenance tasks, but I did not know that you HAD to do these tasks to be granted warranty work?

very interesting

sonic370 06-09-2011 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1159803)
How many miles did the guy drive before he took it back with one quart?

it had 9000 on it. but you could tell he had drove the crap
Out of it. Tires looked they had 50,000 on them

onzedge 06-09-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1159853)
it had 9000 on it. but you could tell he had drove the crap
Out of it. Tires looked they had 50,000 on them

9600 miles and he doesn't change, or even check, the oil? Wow. :shakes head:

11Thumper 06-09-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1159814)
ok I may be naive, but is sticking with manufacturer "recommended" (emphasis on recommended) tasks ESSENTIAL to getting approved warranty work?

Don't get me wrong, of course I do all the recommended (and at times beyond recommended) maintenance tasks, but I did not know that you HAD to do these tasks to be granted warranty work?

very interesting

I believe if you don't follow the recommended maintenance schedule Nissan published they could use that to deny a warranty claim. To my understanding you don't have to do more than that, but if you see oil sparying out from the side of the block you better tow in the vehicle rather than continue to drive it.

Any good master mechanic can tell if the car was maintained or abused.

ZKdoggZ 06-19-2012 01:48 AM

Manufactures are making engines with much higher tolerances today. Where cylinder clearances used to be in the thousands of an inch, now its in the ten thousands. Bores are rounder and straighter. There is know reason to baby a newer engine, it will actually hurt. You need cylinder pressure to drive the rings out onto the bore, which actually shaves the bore into a perfect fit. By babying it the rings will only rub and burnish the surface leaving a less then Ideal finish. So ... keep the revs below 4000 the first 300 miles, then drive it ... accelerate with meaning for the next 2500 miles and your all set. This is how all High Performance engines are broken in, and all engines today can be considered a high performance engine since they pull more power out then there predecessors ever did.

LakeShow 06-19-2012 02:07 AM

Just follow the user manual. The manufacturer is clearly telling you how it should be done and that's it. Anyone who has another method is just opinion and preference.

370ZGTR 06-19-2012 02:11 AM

for future Z owners, when breaking in your new Z, DO NOT drive it over 4,000 rpm for the first 1,450 miles (breaking period) or else...let me just say, new engine installed by NISSAN USA, warranty =)

IDZRVIT 06-19-2012 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKdoggZ (Post 1778641)
Manufactures are making engines with much higher tolerances today. Where cylinder clearances used to be in the thousands of an inch, now its in the ten thousands. Bores are rounder and straighter. There is know reason to baby a newer engine, it will actually hurt. You need cylinder pressure to drive the rings out onto the bore, which actually shaves the bore into a perfect fit. By babying it the rings will only rub and burnish the surface leaving a less then Ideal finish. So ... keep the revs below 4000 the first 300 miles, then drive it ... accelerate with meaning for the next 2500 miles and your all set. This is how all High Performance engines are broken in, and all engines today can be considered a high performance engine since they pull more power out then there predecessors ever did.

So, what qualifies you to make this statement?

falconfixer 06-19-2012 07:12 AM

I love the contradictions in certain threads. Engine break-in? Nissan engineers know best so follow the owner's manual to a T. Wait, engine oil? Hell, Nissan doesn't know what they are talking about, you can use snake piss as long as it's 5W-30.


:rolleyes:

homeryansta 06-19-2012 07:15 AM

The break in period is for the clutch. Not the engine.

andre12031948 06-19-2012 08:38 AM

What is RPM ?
 
People that know what it means would not rev a new engine to 8,000 rpm.
This is how I brake in my cars(I've owned over 25 cars). Accelerate slow, shift at 2,500 rpm, once in a while accelerate(in any gear)till about 4k & then lift foot off gas pedal. That opens up the rings & helps the rings get a great seal. Change break in oil at about 1,500 rpm. Just enough to break in engine & get rid off any loose material in the oil. I mostly always shift at apx 2,500 rpm. Except for passing or getting on the highway or racing, I never accelerate fast/rev high for no reason or stupid reasons like listening to my exhaust. period.

People that accelerate/high RPM often, will wear out their rings much sooner & put more wear on their bearings/all parts..

I have two nissans near 180,000 miles & almost burn no oil & oil stays clean.

MattP725 06-19-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKdoggZ (Post 1778641)
Manufactures are making engines with much higher tolerances today. Where cylinder clearances used to be in the thousands of an inch, now its in the ten thousands. Bores are rounder and straighter. There is know reason to baby a newer engine, it will actually hurt. You need cylinder pressure to drive the rings out onto the bore, which actually shaves the bore into a perfect fit. By babying it the rings will only rub and burnish the surface leaving a less then Ideal finish. So ... keep the revs below 4000 the first 300 miles, then drive it ... accelerate with meaning for the next 2500 miles and your all set. This is how all High Performance engines are broken in, and all engines today can be considered a high performance engine since they pull more power out then there predecessors ever did.

Thank god you were here to answer the question...... a year later :ugh2:

MattP725 06-19-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 1778730)
I love the contradictions in certain threads. Engine break-in? Nissan engineers know best so follow the owner's manual to a T. Wait, engine oil? Hell, Nissan doesn't know what they are talking about, you can use snake piss as long as it's 5W-30.


:rolleyes:

You're missing the point. Break in procedures really provide no monetary gain for Nissan (unless you were to blow the engine I guess)... some people dispute that the ester oil is somewhat a gimick to an extent to drive service revenue at Nissan.

Not saying I agree or disagree but they aren't exactly apples to apples.

mantella87 06-19-2012 09:06 AM

The cancer.


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