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DIGItonium 06-06-2011 09:32 AM

I'm better at building computers than working on something at this level with my car, plus the computer tools will not work with my car ;)

It's just the cost of convenience. Plus, the person working on my car is a Nissan master tech. They can get this thing done in about 2 days. If anything, they'll have quick access to tools and parts. It'll be nice to get the car running well in one week versus several weeks dealing with hiccups, ordering parts, troubleshooting, etc.

FromG2Z 06-06-2011 09:46 AM

Good points digi. Yeah as for me, I would not have anyone or any shop that would be reputable enough that I would trust on my car. Besides, even if I did ask the Nissan dealer to do with it, aside from being raped by pricing, I don't they'd even do it. But yeah, I would never have a dealer touch my car anyways... except for maybe warranty work.

NewYorkJon34 06-06-2011 10:09 AM

My car is a DD which is why I plan on building the engine from the beginning so I don't have to worry about a thing.

Red__Zed 06-06-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1153962)
My car is a DD which is why I plan on building the engine from the beginning so I don't have to worry about a thing.


Just because you have a built engine doesn't mean things will be worry-free

DIGItonium 06-06-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1153919)
Good points digi. Yeah as for me, I would not have anyone or any shop that would be reputable enough that I would trust on my car. Besides, even if I did ask the Nissan dealer to do with it, aside from being raped by pricing, I don't they'd even do it. But yeah, I would never have a dealer touch my car anyways... except for maybe warranty work.

I'm planning to ship my car to Baker Nissan in Houston if that helps.

FromG2Z 06-06-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1154216)
I'm planning to ship my car to Baker Nissan in Houston if that helps.


Wow you're really going all out on this huh? I envy you :( Shipping costs are high aren't they?

But yeah, I heard good things about Baker.

DIGItonium 06-06-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1154223)
Wow you're really going all out on this huh? I envy you :( Shipping costs are high aren't they?

But yeah, I heard good things about Baker.

Haha I've envied others since the 350Z days... :)

When it comes to dream cars, I guess I'm a Nissan fan at heart. Dad already has the Z32-TT. The GT-R is sick, but it is huge, pricey, and does not come with a manual. If I ever get in a situation where I'll never be able to drive a manual, I would probably trade the Z in for a GT-R.

Alternatively, the missed opportunity was a beautiful silver '04 NSX for under $50k. I would lighten it up and go all motor with it for a daily driver.

With the 370Z, I'm assuming maintenance would be similar to the Z32-TT, so it's way cheaper than maintaining the GT-R.

I haven't checked the shipping costs for the car yet, but I'm definitely shuffling finances to quickly pay it off and then get back on track. You only live once, right? It's nice to enjoy boost and toys while I'm still "young."

NewYorkJon34 06-06-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1153975)
Just because you have a built engine doesn't mean things will be worry-free

Why you say that? I believe it will pretty reliable

Red__Zed 06-06-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1155296)
Why you say that? I believe it will pretty reliable

It likely will be, but anytime you heavily modify a car like that you can run into a lot of issues. Sometimes having a shop build your motor can create even more problems than an FI setup by itself-- even if it is reputable shop (ask me how I know this:shakes head:)

Even stock cars have all sorts of random issues that crop up, even with the standardization and low failure rates. Modifications to that systems significantly increase the risk of failure on all counts.

NewYorkJon34 06-06-2011 08:12 PM

I'd be buying the shortblock from GTM able to hold up to 600whp. I'd like to achieve at least 500whp. What's your experience that you've gone through?

Red__Zed 06-06-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1155328)
I'd be buying the shortblock from GTM able to hold up to 600whp. I'd like to achieve at least 500whp. What's your experience that you've gone through?

Too much to type out right now, but three motor builds on f20c's that failed, working with the shop that knows them better than anyone else. As well as a turbo failure (just random chance, it happens sometimes) that sent bits of metal into the engine...which apparently isn't good for it.

NewYorkJon34 06-06-2011 09:03 PM

What kind of build did you do on the f20?

Red__Zed 06-06-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1155390)
What kind of build did you do on the f20?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...26_4281768.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../23vc3fo-1.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...000/eb1nrn.jpg

NewYorkJon34 06-06-2011 09:11 PM

Looks sick, but then again the chances of you running into problems with a turbo'd car pushing almost 700whp is going to be much more likely then my supercharged Z putting down 500whp. Too many different factors to compare, but I'm sry for your loss. It must have been a beast.

Red__Zed 06-06-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 1155402)
Looks sick, but then again the chances of you running into problems with a turbo'd car pushing almost 700whp is going to be much more likely then my supercharged Z putting down 500whp. Too many different factors to compare, but I'm sry for your loss. It must have been a beast.

actually, most of the issues were when running ~500 whp. On the 693 whp setup, the car was flawless.



I'm not trying to down your plans, I'm just saying nothing with aftermarket FI will ever be "worry-free." There's a lot to go wrong. I had similar issues with turbo d series motors I ran as well, and with tuned NA K's.


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