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phelan 05-31-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1141612)
Right on! I prefer long sleeve shirts myself.

you bastard, i just spat my coffee all over my keyboard now :rofl2:

onzedge 05-31-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 1143180)
you bastard, i just spat my coffee all over my keyboard now :rofl2:

You're welcome. Have a great day.

dAvenue 05-31-2011 12:52 PM

I carry a 4.5" Springfield XDM .40 most of the time. I usually place it behind the passenger's seat for good availability while driving. I've also tried sliding a relatively small belt holster onto the driver's side knee guard; it worked well, but I did not like the indention made in that particular location.

jaedub 05-31-2011 02:30 PM

S&W Model 1911. But I just leave it in my room next to my mossberg and DD ar15

Cant carry a handgun out in public in CA unless I have a special permit/license

USMCASA 05-31-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 1143519)
S&W Model 1911. But I just leave it in my room next to my mossberg and DD ar15

Cant carry a handgun out in public in CA unless I have a special permit/license

is that the new E series? how do you like it if so?

jaedub 05-31-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 1143562)
is that the new E series? how do you like it if so?

one of the smoothest .45 ive ever shot. I've tried many .45s but E series 1911 is just simply amazing.

Bought it used from my dads friend (owns more than 10 different types of .45) Had about 1500 shots before I purchased it and works like a charm

m4a1mustang 05-31-2011 04:46 PM

No handgun feels better to shoot than a 1911.

onzedge 05-31-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1143981)
No handgun feels better to shoot than a 1911.

:iagree:

wstar 05-31-2011 06:18 PM

Deleted. I failed at reading the post I was responding to :)

ImportConvert 05-31-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1143981)
No handgun feels better to shoot than a 1911.

I like how they feel, look, etc. but I have owned some nice ones and they just don't run like a Glock. I guess after owning a $4000 jam-o-matic (Tactical Supergrade from Wilson, as well as a Les Baer TRS--both sucked in the reliability department even when clean, well and correctly lubed, and on the square range. No dirt or running dry needed. They failed when pretty.), you become a bit anti-1911.

Give me my tupperware.

Hen Eggs 06-01-2011 07:20 AM

Beretta Mini-Cougar .45 ... (nine shot baseball bat).

Carry it for work all the time; normally just pop it in the rear compartment box behind the pass. seat when I'm in the Z. I ripped the leather in my other car carrying it on my waist band, so I always take it off in the Z.

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1144791)
I like how they feel, look, etc. but I have owned some nice ones and they just don't run like a Glock. I guess after owning a $4000 jam-o-matic (Tactical Supergrade from Wilson, as well as a Les Baer TRS--both sucked in the reliability department even when clean, well and correctly lubed, and on the square range. No dirt or running dry needed. They failed when pretty.), you become a bit anti-1911.

Give me my tupperware.

I may not carry one everyday but I will always have one in the stable. :)

I am with you on the Glocks, though. Big fan. My primary carry is a G26 at the moment. I need something a little bigger (probably the G19) and something a little smaller and I'll have a nice trio of carry guns.

BeachBum 06-01-2011 08:52 AM

I carry a 4.5" Springfield XDm .40 with a IWB Minotaur holster. Full size gun and still I forget I have it on. The holster makes all the difference in the world. Sits perfectly at 5 o'clock. If I am not at work it is on me... Love Florida! Glad to see all the people who carry! Occasionally I'll carry my glock 23 when I need something more concealable. But that is rare. About to pickup the new XDm 3.8 compact in .40.

dAvenue, props to you on your fantastic taste in firearms! What color?

dAvenue 06-01-2011 09:03 AM

Ditto, BeachBum! It's black/black. Like you, I am also wanting the XDM 3.8 .40. I plan on purchasing it sometime during the summer when my wife gets her CHL. I am leaning towards the two-tone silver/black. What about you?

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 09:09 AM

I love the XD series. I really wanted an XD9SC but when I compared it to the Glock the Glock felt better in my hand, and I shot much better with it. Still like the XDs, though.

My GF is going to get her CHL as well so we'll be taking a look at the XDs to see if she likes them. I know she likes my G26 but I want to make sure she tries a lot of different ones out.

Mt Tam I am 06-01-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1144791)
I like how they feel, look, etc. but I have owned some nice ones and they just don't run like a Glock. I guess after owning a $4000 jam-o-matic (Tactical Supergrade from Wilson, as well as a Les Baer TRS--both sucked in the reliability department even when clean, well and correctly lubed, and on the square range. No dirt or running dry needed. They failed when pretty.), you become a bit anti-1911.

Give me my tupperware.

When you want reliability out of a 1911, you want a GI spec not a super accurate and therefore super tight, Wilson or Les Baer. They are race horses and for every day you want more of a pack horse.

Glocks are great and I do not recommend you change weapons.

Re: tupperware. Mine came in the same but now Glock gives you a lockable box.

Red__Zed 06-01-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1145197)
When you want reliability out of a 1911, you want a GI spec not a super accurate and therefore super tight, Wilson or Les Baer. They are race horses and for every day you want more of a pack horse.

Glocks are great and I do not recommend you change weapons.

Re: tupperware. Mine came in the same but now Glock gives you a lockable box.

yeah pretty much this.

I shoot XDs personally since the glock doesn't really fit my hand, but my GI spec 1911 has been flawless in operation. Not a single failure to feed.

Rooskey 06-01-2011 12:49 PM

I have a few guns (9mm, 45 revolver, 7mm rifle, 22 rifle). I love to target shoot and go hunting out west. Not that there is anything wrong with it but I have never understood why people feel the need to carry a pistol on them all the time. Seems like a good way to end up in prison imo, or if you never intend on using it then why carry it.

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1145624)
I have a few guns (9mm, 45 revolver, 7mm rifle, 22 rifle). I love to target shoot and go hunting out west. Not that there is anything wrong with it but I have never understood why people feel the need to carry a pistol on them all the time. Seems like a good way to end up in prison imo, or if you never intend on using it then why carry it.

It's a big debate and ultimately it's personal preference. As long as you abide by the law I don't understand how you'd end up in jail. And I don't think anyone that carries "intends" on using it. It's just the ultimate last resort of personal protection, and you never know when you might end up needing it.

USMCASA 06-01-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1145624)
Not that there is anything wrong with it but I have never understood why people feel the need to carry a pistol on them all the time.

well while i live in an ok part of nc, the neighbor's kid is hooked on meth has made several death threats against me/my family and i've been robbed(attempted) carjacked(attempted). being an ex Marine i've had substantially more training and also have combat experience(2 combat tours over seas) so i think i can handle myself and think it is warranted. anyone in law enforcement can tell you they are only a clean up crew. i'm not saying its for everyone, just those who have had or are experiencing threats in day to day life.

i hope i never have to use it, but will not be wary to use it if need be.

dAvenue 06-01-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1145624)
I have a few guns (9mm, 45 revolver, 7mm rifle, 22 rifle). I love to target shoot and go hunting out west. Not that there is anything wrong with it but I have never understood why people feel the need to carry a pistol on them all the time. Seems like a good way to end up in prison imo, or if you never intend on using it then why carry it.

I carry for the same reasons mentioned by m4a1mustang and usmcasa. CHL's have also been proven to help lower crime rates, as they act as a deterrent, in areas in which licenses are issued.

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 02:13 PM

I don't know if they really act as a deterrent or not, and I don't care much to get involved in that debate. All I know is that when I carry I feel like at least I've got a fighting chance should something go down. I don't necessarily feel unsafe if don't carry, just as I don't feel safe if I do. I just feel more prepared. :)

I follow the rules and am a good person. I know chances are I'll never need my gun, and the one day I do will likely be the day I die, because I'll be in a Gun Free Zone. :icon17:

Billy02987 06-01-2011 02:18 PM

I carry a Glock 22C. Although I don't usually have it on me, I keep it on the shelf behind the passenger seat when I am carrying it.

dAvenue 06-01-2011 02:18 PM

Yeah I understand avoiding that debate because it can get testy at times. All I'm going to say is for those who doubt, look at Chicago or Australia. Both forbid guns; and crime (mostly burglaries and muggings) is through the roof there.

MacCool 06-01-2011 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1145624)
Not that there is anything wrong with it but I have never understood why people feel the need to carry a pistol on them all the time.

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...."

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1145808)
"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...."

My favorite answer to the "why do you carry?" question is "because a police officer weighs too much." :icon17:

USMCASA 06-01-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1145808)
"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away...."

had a minor altercation at my house last night, meth neighbor was talking smack to my family after someone asking him to slow down(nicely i might add) and he said "hold on i've got something for you, i'm gonna get my gun and kill everylast one of you all"....

had my pistol in my hand behind my back, standing behind my car when he came back and fell out of his car running his mouth again empty handed. cops were on the phone and didn't show up for about 15 minutes, way after the guy had left driving under the influence, and said they can't do anything without a warrant.

got the warrant, knew the guy had come back home, told the cops which were right up the road and they said they were busy...

yes a gun is my only option for my safety

m4a1mustang 06-01-2011 02:30 PM

That's when I would find a new neighborhood. :eek:

USMCASA 06-01-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1145839)
That's when I would find a new neighborhood. :eek:

well its only that one piece of **** kid. with any luck he'll over dose sooner or later

BeachBum 06-02-2011 02:22 PM

dAvenue, black/black as well. I wanted the bitone, however, at the time they had just been released and the bitones were no where to be found. I have to say the parkerizing they use has held up well, only a few glossy area's where the holster touches the slide is all that was damaged. 3.8 compact will be a bitone! ;)

I get asked a lot why I carry. Quite simply, why not? Put the guess work on the criminals. They have no idea who has a gun and who doesn't. That cannot but help keep crime rates down. I do not feel just anyone should carry. If you do not have adequate time to practice, and you are not comfortable with the firearm, it's probably not for you. Being even tempered and the use of good judgment is also highly recommended. So you will never hear me suggest to someone they should carry. However, there has never been a situation I was in where having my firearm was bad. It's concealed so unless I have to use it, no one knows I have my firearm. And when/if I need it, I have it. I am not a police officer, nor do I think I am. Our police officers are overworked and underpaid, they cannot be everywhere at once. They do a great job, but again, only so many cops per citizen. So, therefore to me it is simply a supplement and peace of mind. Only two guarantees in life... You will die at some point and you must pay taxes, beyond that it's all a gamble. I just want every available chance to defend myself and my loved ones should the need arise.

As for Glocks...My fingers are too big for the Glock grips so they tend to hurt my hands so that is why I simply don't carry my Glocks more than I do. Beyond that, I am a happy Glock owner as well. Reliable, cheap, and consistent. Not only the requirements for the women in my life...but guns as well! ;)

Nismo_Q 06-02-2011 07:00 PM

Bravo, that's exactly how I feel.

Bleek 06-03-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dAvenue (Post 1145157)
Ditto, BeachBum! It's black/black. Like you, I am also wanting the XDM 3.8 .40. I plan on purchasing it sometime during the summer when my wife gets her CHL. I am leaning towards the two-tone silver/black. What about you?

:bowrofl:

BeachBum 06-03-2011 07:37 AM

LOL! :happydance:

dAvenue 06-03-2011 09:32 AM

Lmao

frost 06-03-2011 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BeachBum (Post 1147863)

As for Glocks...My fingers are too big for the Glock grips so they tend to hurt my hands so that is why I simply don't carry my Glocks more than I do. Beyond that, I am a happy Glock owner as well. Reliable, cheap, and consistent. Not only the requirements for the women in my life...but guns as well! ;)

Did you catch my glock versus m&p review?

http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...ml#post1097148

BeachBum 06-03-2011 11:12 PM

Never had any accuracy issues with my Glock's. Quarter size groups at 25 yards without any problems. The XDm, however, quite simply is a more solid gun, easier to strip due to the XD slide release vs the glock's system. Tighter tolerances in the XDm milling offer a more solid feel and precise action, however makes it more prone to failure if contaminants are present (personally not had this problem as I keep all my weapons clean/lubed). Ammo makes more difference in grouping for me. The match grade internals are nice but with a pistol there isn't much you can do to improve accuracy. The trigger on the XDm certainly feels smoother to me. The bullet is only traveling through 4.5" of barrel in my case. In a semi-auto there are a lot of moving parts. Revolvers used to hold the reigns in accuracy for this reason. Technology has come a long way to even out the playing field.

A Glock due to it's loose tolerances can take sand/water/mud like a champ. Very few guns can perform as reliably while remaining as accurate as a Glock. I can take my glock for example, wash every component with degreaser to remove all lubrication throw it into the dirt, pour dirt over the clip, slide the clip in, rack the slide, and it will fire every time. There is a reason why most police departments, the FBI, DEA, US Marshals, etc chose the Glock as the service weapon of choice. I'm inclined to feel my XDm would not fair as well in environmentally hostile conditions. I don't live in a desert and my back isn't very muddy, so I carry my XDm. Put me in the desert and you would find a Glock in my holster for good reason.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...21/GIGlock.jpg

Most military use Sig's almost exclusively 226 (Navy Seals), 228 (Army), 229 (US Air Marshals/Secret Service) (USCG/NCIS/US Postal Service use the 229R DAK 40's). Several units procure their own weapons, and they range anything from an HK, Beretta, Glock, etc... Personal preference, which IMO is the way it should be across the board.

Now when you talk about rifles, that's where you will see serious MOA variances. The barrel actually flexes as the bullet travels, the stainless bull barrels are less flexible and hence improve accuracy. At 300+yards you can certainly see improvements with match grade barrels/trigger groups/etc.. For that side of the house I go to the AR's. When I want some 50yard fun I'll grab my Kalashnikov.

MacCool 06-04-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BeachBum (Post 1151130)

Most military use Sig's almost exclusively 226 (Navy Seals), 228 (Army), 229 (US Air Marshals/Secret Service) (USCG/NCIS/US Postal Service use the 229R DAK 40's).

The German Sig's are absolutely top-notch. My 1996 P229 has been a fantastic pistol...reliable, accurate, great trigger. Once manufacturing switched to their Exeter, NH plant, quality of Sig firearms seems to have taken a noticeable nosedive since about 2007. My experience with police departments that have tried to switch to Sig indicates that they have a lot of frustrated armorers from recurrent failures and excessively high maintenance requirements to keep the guns running. I would be very reluctant to recommend current-manufacture Sigs these days.

WorkinMan 06-05-2011 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 1141105)
i have my concealed carry permit and appropriate tax stamps for all my nfa items

Ditto.

WorkinMan 06-05-2011 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1141092)
Depends on your local laws. In VA, the glovebox is good enough, so that's where it goes. I pretty much never leave my piece in the car though.

I rarely go to places I can't carry, and I try to leave the piece at the house when I do.

Although SC allows concealed carry and NFA items, etc, the state is still behind times otherwise. I cannot carry into an establishment like a Ruby Tuesday's because they serve alcohol, for instance. That I don't indulge while there is irrelevant. If I'm planning on going to several other places where I feel I ought to carry then I need to be able to make my sidearm safe and store it while eating or plan on eating somewhere else. If I'm traveling, the same applies if the locale I'm visiting (I have permits from several states that pretty well cover reciprocity, also) has similar restrictions. If I am to leave the firearm in the vehicle I want to be as certain as possible that some cretin doesn't just break into my vehicle but also end up with my firearm also. Due to the limited space available, I'll have to rig up a simple solution.

TonyBPD 06-05-2011 09:36 AM

Glock 27 IWB holster.


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