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imag 04-16-2009 01:35 PM

Curious: who would buy a new RX7?
 
If Mazda manages to get a new RX7 out with the 16X (google it), under 2700 lbs., with 280+ hp, who else here would want one?

I'm just curious how die-hard the die-hard Z fans are ; )

I'd probably wait until the second year to make sure they have a chance to correct mistakes in the motor, but if they could get the look right, I think I'd have to trade in the Z for one (*600* lbs lighter with a larger rotary would be pretty sweet). It means dropping some of those torques, but it could be fun...

CrownR426 04-16-2009 01:48 PM

If I were to get a RX7, it would not be this model.
I would probably wait 2 years...
I don't like mazda but the RX7 is an impressive car.

Forrest 04-16-2009 01:59 PM

I wouldnt consider it if they was still trying to sell the rotary design. No power and no gas milage? holy crap sign me up onto that fail boat!

i dont care if its light weight, not every thing is "the track" for me.

SiXK 04-16-2009 02:05 PM

I will go ahead and not order one now. I like the nissans.

CantZme 04-16-2009 02:19 PM

I wouldnt buy one, like the posts before mention under powered for its price range not to mention those things are so unreliable. I dont care too much about the weight factor seriously. If i really need to shave weight ill join weight watchers(jk) or carbon fiber my ride either way itll benefit us both. But its the unreliability thing that gets me.

Lug 04-16-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 57942)
I wouldnt consider it if they was still trying to sell the rotary design. No power and no gas milage? holy crap sign me up onto that fail boat!

i dont care if its light weight, not every thing is "the track" for me.

um..power to weight ratio and power per cubic inch is incredible for rotary engines....they just make very small engines. The current version is only 1.3 liters. The new 1.6 liter engine is going to make almost 300 HP and it's going aluminum to further reduce weight. If they can keep the vehicle weight down to 2700 lbs, this is going to be a serious car. As far as reliability, I drove an RX7 for almost 10 years and only put about $200 worth of maintenance into it.

import111 04-16-2009 02:25 PM

If the acceleration was better than the 370Z stock for stock, I might have to trade up.

Forrest 04-16-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 57955)
um..power to weight ratio and power per cubic inch is incredible for rotary engines....they just make very small engines. The current version is only 1.3 liters. The new 1.6 liter engine is going to make almost 300 HP and it's going aluminum to further reduce weight. If they can keep the vehicle weight down to 2700 lbs, this is going to be a serious car. As far as reliability, I drove an RX7 for almost 10 years and only put about $200 worth of maintenance into it.

from kellybluebook
Rotary, 1.3 Liter
232 @ 8500 RPM
159 @ 5500 RPM
16 mpg City / 22 mpg Hwy
Curb Weight 3064 lbs.

The only thing impressive with those facts i listed is the 1.3L can achieve that power, but actualy owning it, i think thats a different story.

Not impressed with this current rotary design.

Maybe new one is better? but i am going to dout it.

All i can see is a 1.6L engine getting 14/20 MPG and still not being faster than any other car. Then again what do i know im a novice to this stuff.

Lug 04-16-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by import111 (Post 57956)
If the acceleration was better than the 370Z stock for stock, I might have to trade up.

I doubt there will be to much difference (if Mazda makes those numbers). But an RX7 at 2700lbs can be made so sticky on the track, it ain't funny.

Lug 04-16-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 57967)
from kellybluebook
Rotary, 1.3 Liter
232 @ 8500 RPM
159 @ 5500 RPM
16 mpg City / 22 mpg Hwy
Curb Weight 3064 lbs.

The only thing impressive with those facts i listed is the 1.3L can achieve that power, but actualy owning it, i think thats a different story.

Not impressed with this current rotary design.

Maybe new one is better? but i am going to dout it.

All i can see is a 1.6L engine getting 14/20 MPG and still not being faster than any other car. Then again what do i know im a novice to this stuff.

That's a smaller engine in a bigger car introduced in 2003. We are talking about the RX7 that significantly boosts power AND significantly reduces weight. Whether they can actually make those numbers is a different story. We heard all kinds of rumors of the 370Z being under 3000 lbs before it's launch. The RX7 does get to chop out the back seats so it should be a good bit lighter in any case.

imag 04-16-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 57974)
That's a smaller engine in a bigger car introduced in 2003. We are talking about the RX7 that significantly boosts power AND significantly reduces weight. Whether they can actually make those numbers is a different story. We heard all kinds of rumors of the 370Z being under 3000 lbs before it's launch. The RX7 does get to chop out the back seats so it should be a good bit lighter in any case.

The RX7 would have the benefit of being based on a Miata platform, which only weighs ~2400 lbs. in current form (and is supposedly getting even lighter).

Unfortunately for the Z, it's based on a sedan platform.

I personally worry that Mazda won't get the styling right on the RX, which is one of the reasons I'm going for the Z now. I think I'll be very very happy with the Z for at least three years. Then - we'll see... it's all about the :driving:

molamann 04-16-2009 03:22 PM

The FD3S,300ZX, and the GT-R34 are some of my favorite sports car. So far the 370Z and GT-R have done a fine job at continuing its legacy but the RX-8 is a huge disappointment. Hopefully the RX-7 16x can do a better job to revive the old FD3S legacy.

OnCallZ 04-16-2009 04:43 PM

I've driven a rotary for a month, long story short - I got tired of having to rev up to 7k just to get on to the interstate, in addition to the horrific gas mileage, the engine had major leaks (well at least in the early models)
If I am paying for the gas millage of a gallardo and getting acceleration of a civic, something is wrong.

I don't see a future in rotary gasoline engines, sorry if I offended any rotary supporters

molamann 04-16-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnCallZ (Post 58026)
I've driven a rotary for a month, long story short - I got tired of having to rev up to 7k just to get on to the interstate, in addition to the horrific gas mileage, the engine had major leaks (well at least in the early models)
If I am paying for the gas millage of a gallardo and getting acceleration of a civic, something is wrong.

I don't see a future in rotary gasoline engines, sorry if I offended any rotary supporters

Which model?

initialgemini 04-16-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 57955)
um..power to weight ratio and power per cubic inch is incredible for rotary engines....they just make very small engines. The current version is only 1.3 liters. The new 1.6 liter engine is going to make almost 300 HP and it's going aluminum to further reduce weight. If they can keep the vehicle weight down to 2700 lbs, this is going to be a serious car. As far as reliability, I drove an RX7 for almost 10 years and only put about $200 worth of maintenance into it.

$200.00, you've got to be kidding me? How often did you drive it? less than 36K over a span of 10 years?


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