Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087171)

Be careful bandying the "Donald" name about so carelessly. It is my first name too. :tup:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1087204)

:tup: it's a nice name. btw, if you haven't noticed my first name is ken. :icon17:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087219)

Yeah, I figured it out. Remember I am an honorary Asian due to my country of birth being Japan on Honshu in Yokosuka. :tup:

Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 1087230)

Oh, big deal! I once met Bob Sharp and sat in his Z :tup: :icon17:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087234)

Oh yeah? One of my clients is married to Scott Sharp, Bob's son. :tup:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087825)

"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate." -- Sun Tzu

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1087835)

sounds great. is this like some antient chinese secret? :D

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1087858)

Sun tzu is the author of the art of war. One of the greatest military writings of all time and is still taught and referenced today by military leaders.

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087877)

It is also used heavily in the business world.

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 1087894)

You make your own car payments, insurance payments!
Who cares what others say about your ride, as long as at the end of the day you have a big smile when you start her up!
:D

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1087877)

It is also used heavily in the business world.

Originally Posted by Inspector71 (Post 1083855)

Some aspects of this post may offend some members and that is NOT my intention. Please don't miss the main point. A new neighbor moved in a week ago. I saw he had a 67 GTO, totally restored, good, his wife a newer Pontiac sedan, and they also had a Chevy truck. I try not to judge but, having lived in this part of Missouri for 20 years, I have encountered a certain mentality that equates owning "foreign" cars as bad. I introduced myself and told him the previous owners were meticulous in their care of the home. He said, "Of course they were, or we wouldn't have bought it." His tone was a little smart a&$ but I shurgged it off. I told him they put a lot of time in the yard and so forth. He told me of course they did because that is the only kind of home they buy. I tried again. I commented on how nice they and all their new neighbors were. He said I would notice no change with them. I told him I keep to myself, mind my own business, and whatever he did on his property, house, driveway, etc. was none of my business. He stared at me without answering as if he didn't like what I said. I tried one more time. I commented on how nice his 67 GTO was and mentioned I had some old cars I played around with and hoped to get to them one day. He asked which kind? I told him 66 Plymouth Valiant convertible, 68 Barracuda, and a 68 Charger that was maybe more rust than metal. He then grabs me around the neck, I kid you not, and shakes me saying, "Then why are you driving Nissans!" My wife has a Sentra. He asked me again saying I should drive only American cars. So I had had enough. I told him I wasn't buying cars from companies whose unions gave money to elect people hostile to my political interests especially my liberty. He asked what I meant and I told him the 2nd Amendment. He then launches into talking points about no one needing a 35 round "clip." I explained my dad carried an M1 Garand in the Korean War and no one had a 35 round "clip." He then began to pepper me with one question after another asking a new one before I could answer and old one. He then tells me he is from Detroit, is a GM Auto worker, an assembler, and was transferred to Missouri. He told me he was union and a Democrat. He then tells me I am a teacher, (my neighbors told) and how do I feel about that. I told him I am not in the union and wouldn't join one because I don't want labor money going to Democrats or Republicans. He then tells me, "Well, I'm a true blue American. I'm American to the core, I drive American cars, am in the union, and a Democrat." In other words, if you are not like that, you are not an American. He then excused himself and went into his garage. I finished cutting the grass and then backed my red Z out of the garage and washed it, slowly, even though it was clean.

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 1088232)

Your entire story could be changed from this:
To this:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1088326)

You're on a roll today.

VCuomo: Master of Cliff Notes. :icon18:

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1088512)

You crazy buy American guys are scary. Might I suggest you look less at global company's original country of origin and focus on well run companies investments in our country.

Nissan North America is based in the US and has made huge investments in our country, hired thousands of American workers, paid US corporate taxes, etc. In many ways Japanese management structure ( truly a US management philosophy that wasn't embraced by traditional US manufactures) has brought more empowerment to manufacturing floor employeees in the US.

Nissan US manufacturing employees even made vehicles for Ford for several years!

A few details on Nissan North America

Nissan: Manufacturing, Smyrna, Tenn.

New Nissan North America Headquarters

Nissan America Headquarters Opens In Franklin |

Even our 370z exterior was designed in California by a Canadian!

YouTube - Nissan 370Z Design Explained by the Designer Randy Rodriguez

Perhaps better crtiteria for poorly informed "Buy American" dorks need to be more concerned about is where their brand of car is actually made as there are plenty of Ford and GM cars with little or no US content. Even cars assembled in US have motors and transmissions from other countries and many parts from China.

My Chevy truck is made in Mexico. Does driving a big Chevy crew cab truck make me more American? ....I think not! I'd be more American if I drove a Nissan Truck made by US workers!

One more thought. Access to free markets to all citizens is what makes US the great country we are. In many ways the buy American crowd reminds me of old school Russian commies. They limited their citizens to Russian cars for years. Look where that got them!

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1088557)

But... but... but... the profits... they go back... to JAPAN! :bowrofl:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1088557)

But... but... but... the profits... they go back... to JAPAN! :bowrofl:

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1088580)

Are you sure about that? Nissan North America is a US corporation. US Corporations must pay taxes on all profits recognized in the US. And its clear profits from Nissan sales in the US are being invested in US operations, they built that new headquarters, invested "profits" in expanded US manufacturing. They are also building a new battery plant in the US! The profits don't all go back to Japan just as profits from Ford and GM don't all come back to the US. If anything Ford and GM are investing less in the US and investing more in Former Soviet Union and China!

And let me ask did Nissan borrow yoUr tax money like GM to bail themselves out and then spend that same money on expanded operations in China and Korea?

Your argument fails!

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1088580)

Are you sure about that? Nissan North America is a US corporation. US Corporations must pay taxes on all profits recognized in the US. And its clear profits from Nissan sales in the US are being invested in US operations, they built that new headquarters, invested "profits" in expanded US manufacturing. They are also building a new battery plant in the US! The profits don't all go back to Japan just as profits from Ford and GM don't all come back to the US. If anything Ford and GM are investing less in the US and investing more in Former Soviet Union and China!

And let me ask did Nissan borrow yoUr tax money like GM to bail themselves out and then spend that same money on expanded operations in China and Korea?

Your argument fails!

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1088588)

I figured you'd sense the sarcasm... I guess I was wrong.

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1088620)

No I'm pissed at Ford taking profits from your Mustang and building billion dollar Ford Focus manufacturing and distribution operation in Russia! Lol!

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1088621)

:bowrofl:

Well you can rest assured that I'm the last person you need to lecture on the global economy considering my living is devoted to exploiting it for profit. :D

Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1088666)

No worries you're just easy target Mustang man! And you and I probably share much in common. I make my living setting up global operations for multinational companies. However I do crazy things like putting my current global call center in a New York college town rather than India. :icon17:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 1089779)

So if this guy watches TV from a Sony, Samsung, etc...what does that make him?