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DrEvil 04-27-2011 09:24 AM

How do you drive your AT Z
 
I have no regrets about getting my Z with the 7 sp at. In fact the price of this car was the deal maker. Don't get me wrong I love a manual trans, but I wasn't going to pay 6k more for the stick. Now that I've had the car for 8 months I find myself shifting manually more and more- and loving it. In stupid rash hour traffic I'll leave it auto, but on the open road I'll put it in manual and have a blast.It's nice to have a tranny that is actually built for that.I had an '03 Accord v 6 coupe that the tranny died at 30k-and I couldn't reaaly sift it like the Z.To me the at is the best of both worlds.:tiphat:

kenchan 04-27-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrEvil (Post 1076467)
I wasn't going to pay 6k more for the stick. Now that I've had the car for 8 months I find myself shifting manually more and more- and loving it. In stupid rash hour traffic I'll leave it auto, but on the open road I'll put it in manual and have a blast.It's nice to have a tranny that is actually built for that.I had an '03 Accord v 6 coupe that the tranny died at 30k-and I couldn't reaaly sift it like the Z.To me the at is the best of both worlds.:tiphat:

6K more for the stick? :confused: when i went to my dealer looking for my MT 370z, the first thing the sales guy said was 'sorry we're out of AT's.' so i played him from there 'damn it, so you only have MT's, huh? :rolleyes: ' and so the dealing went.

next i made fun of the bestbuy boombox cluster, and the stupid big side view blinding side mirrors, etc. :icon17:

so i paid invoice and went home happy in the exact trim and option i wanted. :p

VCuomo 04-27-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrEvil (Post 1076467)
I have no regrets about getting my Z with the 7 sp at. In fact the price of this car was the deal maker. Don't get me wrong I love a manual trans, but I wasn't going to pay 6k more for the stick. Now that I've had the car for 8 months I find myself shifting manually more and more- and loving it. In stupid rash hour traffic I'll leave it auto, but on the open road I'll put it in manual and have a blast.It's nice to have a tranny that is actually built for that.I had an '03 Accord v 6 coupe that the tranny died at 30k-and I couldn't reaaly sift it like the Z.To me the at is the best of both worlds.:tiphat:

:iagree: (although I don't know why you found that the price of a 6MT was $6K over the price of a 7AT :confused:)

bflosabre91 04-27-2011 10:42 AM

i was wondering the same thing..the only thing i can think of is that even tho the AT costs more traditionally, the demand for a MT 370z is probably higher than AT. i have nothing against AT but for me, getting a 370z was my chance to have fun with MT. but even still, 6000k difference? a base model up to a touring model is like a 6k dollar difference, i dont see how the transmission type would effect it that much. unless he is talking specific cars here with different options other than the transmission...

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 10:50 AM

I'm going to join the stunned disbelief crowd about an extra $6k for the manual.

red6spd 04-27-2011 10:55 AM

Did the 6spd have a solid gold shift knob???

UNKNOWN_370 04-27-2011 11:00 AM

WOW... they must be doing reverse exploitation where you are from. Here in dallas, if you buy an AT, you are gettin reamed up the A big time.
Well I love my AT. Nissan makes the best slushbox out there hands down. No one else comes close in the slush dept. First off I'm surprised how low torque converter drone is compared to other autos that shift. Though there are bouts where it can be overbearing. Most of the time its hardly heard.
Next thing I like, driving in auto mode, the car changes gears at 5 different levels of rpm depending on how you press the gas. I never seen so many levels of shift programmed into an AT. Press soft, you get 2500rpm gear changes. Press with a slight firmness it changes at 3300rpm. Get mildly aggressive and it changes at 4600rpm. Hit the accel hard 5200rpm. Floor it off the line it changes at 6000rpm. How sick is that. Nissan hit so many levels of mild and aggressive driving in auto mode.
Then you have manual mode. Change gears from the stick and the car feels like a human manual shift. There's a slight delay of about 1sec or slightly under. The car bucs a lil hard when changing gears. Just like a human. Change gears on the paddles and you are getting one-third second shifts. The shifts are super smooth and quick. Once mastered the second overdrive actually helps a lot in getting sick acceleration times. I couldn't utilize the 7th gear in my G as well as I could in my Z. Weird cuz its the same tranny and motor. Maybe its the overall package and weight that makes it better in the Z? I'm not a physicist so I won't even analyze.
The 7 at gives you a lot of driving options as far as styles and feels. All can be done in a traditional manual but the 7AT just deserves respect for its many attributes. I feel the 7at gives the Z a supercar feel. Which all supercars use F1 paddle dct transmission. The only difference between a dct and nissans AT is that the dct will not ever have converter drone. Maybe the aftermarket can come up with a drone free converter????

Econ 04-27-2011 11:01 AM

I always (unless in traffic) drive on manual mode. I like being able to drop a gear or 2 and accelerate instantly as opposed to waiting for the AT mode's delay

UNKNOWN_370 04-27-2011 11:05 AM

WOW... they must be doing reverse exploitation where you are from. Here in dallas, if you buy an AT, you are gettin reamed up the A big time.
Well I love my AT. Nissan makes the best slushbox out there hands down. No one else comes close in the slush dept. First off I'm surprised how low torque converter drone is compared to other autos that shift. Though there are bouts where it can be overbearing. Most of the time its hardly heard.
Next thing I like, driving in auto mode, the car changes gears at 5 different levels of rpm depending on how you press the gas. I never seen so many levels of shift programmed into an AT. Press soft, you get 2500rpm gear changes. Press with a slight firmness it changes at 3300rpm. Get mildly aggressive and it changes at 4600rpm. Hit the accel hard 5200rpm. Floor it off the line it changes at 6000rpm. How sick is that. Nissan hit so many levels of mild and aggressive driving in auto mode.
Then you have manual mode. Change gears from the stick and the car feels like a human manual shift. There's a slight delay of about 1sec or slightly under. The car bucs a lil hard when changing gears. Just like a human. Change gears on the paddles and you are getting one-third second shifts. The shifts are super smooth and quick. Once mastered the second overdrive actually helps a lot in getting sick acceleration times. I couldn't utilize the 7th gear in my G as well as I could in my Z. Weird cuz its the same tranny and motor. Maybe its the overall package and weight that makes it better in the Z? I'm not a physicist so I won't even analyze.
The 7 at gives you a lot of driving options as far as styles and feels. All can be done in a traditional manual but the 7AT just deserves respect for its many attributes. I feel the 7at gives the Z a supercar feel. Which all supercars use F1 paddle dct transmission. The only difference between a dct and nissans AT is that the dct will not ever have converter drone. Maybe the aftermarket can come up with a drone free converter????

As far as how I drive. Its 50/50 drive it like a moonshiner during prohibition and then mild aggressive to get some better gas mileage. I can granny it more for mileage but, I can't sorry. Lol

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1076602)
WOW... they must be doing reverse exploitation where you are from. Here in dallas, if you buy an AT, you are gettin reamed up the A big time.
Well I love my AT. Nissan makes the best slushbox out there hands down. No one else comes close in the slush dept. First off I'm surprised how low torque converter drone is compared to other autos that shift. Though there are bouts where it can be overbearing. Most of the time its hardly heard.
Next thing I like, driving in auto mode, the car changes gears at 5 different levels of rpm depending on how you press the gas. I never seen so many levels of shift programmed into an AT. Press soft, you get 2500rpm gear changes. Press with a slight firmness it changes at 3300rpm. Get mildly aggressive and it changes at 4600rpm. Hit the accel hard 5200rpm. Floor it off the line it changes at 6000rpm. How sick is that. Nissan hit so many levels of mild and aggressive driving in auto mode.
Then you have manual mode. Change gears from the stick and the car feels like a human manual shift. There's a slight delay of about 1sec or slightly under. The car bucs a lil hard when changing gears. Just like a human. Change gears on the paddles and you are getting one-third second shifts. The shifts are super smooth and quick. Once mastered the second overdrive actually helps a lot in getting sick acceleration times. I couldn't utilize the 7th gear in my G as well as I could in my Z. Weird cuz its the same tranny and motor. Maybe its the overall package and weight that makes it better in the Z? I'm not a physicist so I won't even analyze.
The 7 at gives you a lot of driving options as far as styles and feels. All can be done in a traditional manual but the 7AT just deserves respect for its many attributes. I feel the 7at gives the Z a supercar feel. Which all supercars use F1 paddle dct transmission. The only difference between a dct and nissans AT is that the dct will not ever have converter drone. Maybe the aftermarket can come up with a drone free converter????

As far as how I drive. Its 50/50 drive it like a moonshiner during prohibition and then mild aggressive to get some better gas mileage. I can granny it more for mileage but, I can't sorry. Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1076593)
WOW... they must be doing reverse exploitation where you are from. Here in dallas, if you buy an AT, you are gettin reamed up the A big time.
Well I love my AT. Nissan makes the best slushbox out there hands down. No one else comes close in the slush dept. First off I'm surprised how low torque converter drone is compared to other autos that shift. Though there are bouts where it can be overbearing. Most of the time its hardly heard.
Next thing I like, driving in auto mode, the car changes gears at 5 different levels of rpm depending on how you press the gas. I never seen so many levels of shift programmed into an AT. Press soft, you get 2500rpm gear changes. Press with a slight firmness it changes at 3300rpm. Get mildly aggressive and it changes at 4600rpm. Hit the accel hard 5200rpm. Floor it off the line it changes at 6000rpm. How sick is that. Nissan hit so many levels of mild and aggressive driving in auto mode.
Then you have manual mode. Change gears from the stick and the car feels like a human manual shift. There's a slight delay of about 1sec or slightly under. The car bucs a lil hard when changing gears. Just like a human. Change gears on the paddles and you are getting one-third second shifts. The shifts are super smooth and quick. Once mastered the second overdrive actually helps a lot in getting sick acceleration times. I couldn't utilize the 7th gear in my G as well as I could in my Z. Weird cuz its the same tranny and motor. Maybe its the overall package and weight that makes it better in the Z? I'm not a physicist so I won't even analyze.
The 7 at gives you a lot of driving options as far as styles and feels. All can be done in a traditional manual but the 7AT just deserves respect for its many attributes. I feel the 7at gives the Z a supercar feel. Which all supercars use F1 paddle dct transmission. The only difference between a dct and nissans AT is that the dct will not ever have converter drone. Maybe the aftermarket can come up with a drone free converter????


My head hurts.

DrEvil 04-27-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 1076548)
:iagree: (although I don't know why you found that the price of a 6MT was $6K over the price of a 7AT :confused:)

The was an 09 leftover that I got for 28k(sticker was 37k).If I wanted a stick I would have had to by a '10 and they weren't going lower the price much on those.

c41006 04-27-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076609)
My head hurts.

:icon18: Just do what I do and skip over any posts with more than 50 words

Econ 04-27-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c41006 (Post 1076667)
:icon18: Just do what I do and skip over any posts with more than 50 words

i do this with work emails....not good

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c41006 (Post 1076667)
:icon18: Just do what I do and skip over any posts with more than 50 words

That usually only leaves the ghey jokes.

UNKNOWN_370 04-27-2011 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076609)
My head hurts.

U always have the option to :gtfo2: if it bothers u so much.:happydance:

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1076789)
U always have the option to :gtfo2: if it bothers u so much.:happydance:

or, you could use paragraphs so that people could understand what you write. Up to you, of course.



Also, let it be noted that I prefer to GTFI, rather than GTFO.

kenchan 04-27-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1076772)
i do this with work emails....not good

:icon18:

Gixxer-370Z 04-27-2011 01:06 PM

You should always go into a dealership with information about another dealership (let them know you've been doing research). I found a dealership in Dallas that has a Nismo listed for online price $37,600 compared to $41K MSRP. I know thats below invoice (google) but I still used it here in Houston and of course they called to get the walk out price, which they said was just above invoice. Well I made the same call and found out my dealership was inflating it a bit and called them out.

I ended up getting it at invoice. Also, You should all know they get kickbacks from the manufacture (2.8%) so don't ever let them tell you they aren't making any $$. I hate hearing that crap!

I also walked out saying I was going to sale my trade at Texas Direct Auto because their buyout quote was way higher on my tradein...then their Used car Manager said he wanted my car (due to low inventory on their lot) and to give me what I wanted for it...so I made out!

Even if you are comparing 09-10...they can work with the price, unless of course their demand is SOOO HIGH and they only have a few in stock...which is unlikely. They want the sale...no matter what.

My Dad has been a Car dealership manager almost my whole life...so I know a bit of the ins and outs.

zmyride 04-27-2011 01:53 PM

The only reason i bought an AT because of the BayArea traffic. everyday it takes me 1 hour of commuting one way, only 15 miles away. Try that with a manual.

If i were to live in the surb, or somewhere with wide open roads, i would go with a manual.

also with an AT, i can go in the manual mode. the fun factor is up to each individual to interpret.

I can cruise when i want and just let my mind wander away. when I want to have some fun, i can swithch to manual. best of both worlds.

AlphaSnacks 04-27-2011 02:08 PM

Doubt he's lying about the price difference. We don't know the years of the cars (his could've been overstock since he has an 09), options, etc. Typically, automatics are purchased by dealerships in hopes that a random customer will walk in and snag one on the spot. Dealers prefer to stock fewer manuals because they are an enthusiast's car and enthusiasts are more likely to be picky about their cars, with things such as colors and options.

Nismo89 04-27-2011 06:44 PM

main reason for me buying my Z in AT was because the constant, stopping, starting, stopping, starting again... of traffic on the way home and stuff

i mean a Z is a Z, Automatic or Manuel... who cares lol i still have a ton of looks EVERYWHERE i go practically and admiration BIG time... and thats the biggest joy for me....

Me personally i havent used the shifters yet in mine, mostly because im so used to Automatic that i just put it in gear and go, without a moments thought..

Manuel or Automatic..... Doesnt matter, Admirers will flock and gawk from a distance for the simple fact thats its a Z! =)

sonic370 04-27-2011 08:05 PM

for me i traded in an 05 350 MT in was fun for awhile but i grew tired of the shifting in traffic. plus the first time i saw the paddle shifters on the 370 i was sold..... the 7AT does not disappoint.... when i'm depressed i just put it in M
mode shift right before redline between each gear and i get a big grin on my face...............

Fire 04-27-2011 10:43 PM

I'm in the majority and drive in the auto for boring driving (city or expressway) and M for the fun twisty stuff. I've done the $2 paddle shifter mod and like the shorter throw. Ofcourse you are never going to get the MT people to admit that both are great trannys but they are. I never have to worry about burning up the clutch or missing a shift. Just hammer down and take off down the road, shift 6 times and your over the speed limit.:ughdance:

Thomasd 04-27-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire (Post 1077928)
I'm in the majority and drive in the auto for boring driving (city or expressway) and M for the fun twisty stuff. I've done the $2 paddle shifter mod and like the shorter throw. Ofcourse you are never going to get the MT people to admit that both are great trannys but they are. I never have to worry about burning up the clutch or missing a shift. Just hammer down and take off down the road, shift 6 times and your over the speed limit.:ughdance:


6 times? I shift 4 and Im at 100

Fire 04-27-2011 11:11 PM

Tru that I can hit 65 in 3rd or 4th. I like hitting all the gears real fast. Does anybody have a top speed per gear chart?

KillerBee370 04-27-2011 11:31 PM

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...story_bro.jpeg

Now please post something else because I can't stand seeing your post count at 99. Let's go ahead and make it an even 100 eh?

:D

Bleek 04-28-2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1076545)
6K more for the stick? :confused: when i went to my dealer looking for my MT 370z, the first thing the sales guy said was 'sorry we're out of AT's.' so i played him from there 'damn it, so you only have MT's, huh? :rolleyes: ' and so the dealing went.

next i made fun of the bestbuy boombox cluster, and the stupid big side view blinding side mirrors, etc. :icon17:

so i paid invoice and went home happy in the exact trim and option i wanted. :p

smart man

wilsonp 04-28-2011 12:21 AM

I posted my torque (and speed) in gears charts here:
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...tml#post954957

UNKNOWN_370 04-28-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gixxer-370Z (Post 1076867)
You should always go into a dealership with information about another dealership (let them know you've been doing research). I found a dealership in Dallas that has a Nismo listed for online price $37,600 compared to $41K MSRP. I know thats below invoice (google) but I still used it here in Houston and of course they called to get the walk out price, which they said was just above invoice. Well I made the same call and found out my dealership was inflating it a bit and called them out.

I ended up getting it at invoice. Also, You should all know they get kickbacks from the manufacture (2.8%) so don't ever let them tell you they aren't making any $$. I hate hearing that crap!

I also walked out saying I was going to sale my trade at Texas Direct Auto because their buyout quote was way higher on my tradein...then their Used car Manager said he wanted my car (due to low inventory on their lot) and to give me what I wanted for it...so I made out!


Even if you are comparing 09-10...they can work with the price, unless of course their demand is SOOO HIGH and they only have a few in stock...which is unlikely. They want the sale...no matter what.

My Dad has been a Car dealership manager almost my whole life...so I know a bit of the ins and outs.


Its typical texas practice. Always inflating prices of anything with 2 doors considered sporty. Its imperitive that tx consumers do there research before buying any vehicle and a ** on sports cars.

UNKNOWN_370 04-28-2011 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076811)
or, you could use paragraphs so that people could understand what you write. Up to you, of course.



Also, let it be noted that I prefer to GTFI, rather than GTFO.

I might have rambled a little but at least I'm on topic and not looking for a stupid f****in laugh. What have you brought to this thread aside from indirect insults.
:inoutroflpuke: wipe your mouth.

b1adesofcha0s 04-28-2011 02:38 PM

I usually drive my 7AT in full auto mode for my normal DD commute. When I want to have some fun, I use the paddle shifters. I definitely would not have gotten my awesome 1/4 mile time with a 6MT, which makes me love the 7AT even more :D

CWofRR 04-28-2011 08:52 PM

he did say he got his for a good deal...

gr8-wrx 04-28-2011 09:50 PM

I love having the option for full auto mode in Bay Area traffic. Highway 4 in East CCC is a mess. Switching to manual mode is a great option for when I want more control.

I will have to say that I'm still getting used to the paddles in the sense that I feel like I should be doing something with my left leg when changing gears. But, I only have about 250 miles on my Z so far...

I've had traditional stick cars all my life. Previously had a 5-spd WRX, before that a 5-spd Integra, before that a 5-spd VW, etc...

c41006 04-28-2011 09:51 PM

I would say I drive in auto mode 95% of the time

Dark Sarcasm 04-28-2011 10:01 PM

i was pearing into the future and saw the manual transmission becoming an option just before sliding into obscolescence. Automatic trans technology is advancing rapidly, performance and efficiency wise. pretty soon the stick shift will be a thing of the past.

2030: Ford will release a Mustang with a "throwback" trans that requires the driver to manually select the gear ratio postion, much like cars from previous decades.

c41006 04-28-2011 10:28 PM

^^ Will I meet the girl of my dreams?

Dark Sarcasm 04-28-2011 10:34 PM

yes, but you never marry. Shortly after you meet she is arrested for assaulting the manager at a Grandys All-You-Can eat buffet after he tries to cut her off. In jail she meets the girl of her dreams.

c41006 04-28-2011 10:36 PM

Just my luck


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