i see your point. BUT a Z06 is one hell of a car to mod. you can do A LOT with that car. its light weight, comes with a hell of a engine. LS7 v8. which with a few bolt ons can produce great gains. thats what i would do :)

You can go fast with a Z06 or have a nice interior with the M3, but the M3 is a dog compared to a Z06 in the speed department just as much as the Z06 is made by Mattel as compared to the M3 in the interior department. They are two totally different cars. Posch 4-seater vs. spartan 2-seater. One is built for speed, the other comfort.

Here are pics of my now sold Super-Silver, as well as my current Matte White one that's presently at Switzer Performance getting some 'love'.:tup:

Good points, bro. There's nothing like the feel and sound of a nasty V-8 or V-10 when you're in the mood for it.

FTW. I say buy a used ZR-1 for the price of a new Z06. Me i'll stay modding my Z though. :)

Xan - nothing against Lotus, but I'm personally not a fan. Thank you for the input, though.

looks awesome man, love the white one!

Well, I wouldn't all the GT-R "lightweight", as it weighs 3,900 lbs...but I do like the idea of mixing it up.

Great points. However, both a Z06 and the M3 will feel like dogs compared to my GT-R. So it really comes down to which one will be more liveable day to day. The M3 is a much better built car overall, but the Z06 is a great performer that actually gets damn good MPG at highway speeds.

The more I think about it, the more I think the choice gets narrowed down between a Z06 or M3. But a '11 Mustang GT also comes to mind, as I think it falls nicely in-between the two. Can't beat the price either...

I still want to drive a NISMO 370, but I can't find any for sale nearby at this moment.

I think the new 1 Series M that's coming out would be a more trackable/fun car than the M3. There's also the Boss Mustang.

Thanks for the post. The ZR1 crossed my mind, but at that price-point, I'd rather go with a 997 GT3.

If I go Z06, it'll be used for sure. I never purchase brand-new, high-end cars.

I really like the Boss, but think the 1 Series is fugly.:icon17:

he said he already had a car to go fast in if he wanted to. the m3 is a lot nicer imo than the z06 plus u dont see them nearly as often. if you think the m3 is a dog compared to the z06 look at youtube videos of m3's with a horsepower freaks turbo. it would bust any z06's ***.

YouTube - HPF Stg 2.5 Turbo BMW M3 vs HKS 570 Nissan GT-R Skyline
YouTube - BMW ///M3 E46 HPF TURBO vs Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
YouTube - HPF M3 Vs 911 Turbo

m3 is definately not a pussy car haha

Yeah, but if you go FI with a Z06 it should beat the M3 considering it's considerably lighter.

Test drive them all! Also what are you looking for, a DD? Personally I'd be looking at the viper, if it were doable..

Agree that they aren't pussy cars, but the HPF cars are for E46 only (I would want an E92). Also, even the fastest Stage 3 or higher HPF M3s aren't any faster than my S/C'd C6 Z06 was at only 722 rwhp....which wasn't really all that fast. They have very bad traction issues, and they seem to have a problem with exploding motors. No thanks.;)

YouTube - Supercharged Z06 vs Turbocharged HPF E46 M3
i dont know man might be close

i didnt know that haha. did u know there was a stage 4 though? my buddy has an e46 so he talks about this thing all the time.

They do. But actually their fastest car to date is a Stage 2.5 (I'm very familiar with the cars). The Stage 4 just blows its tires off since you can't fit anything big back there. Not a good platform for big power, IMO.

And yes, quite a few blown motors lately. But that's supposed to be a secret.:)

3900 geez didn't know that.

I really like the new 5.0s and if I were building a track car on a new platform, it may be the way I would go. I just can't get beyond the fact that I pass 10 Mustangs between my driveway and the first 7-11. I know that when you are in the seat pushing a car none of that really matters. If they weren't a great value, they wouldn't be selling so many. It just bugs me.

Although not a NISMO, you are welcome to drive the roadster. I should have the Swift springs on in a few weeks, depending on my schedule.

its apparently a well kept secret haha. i would imagine it would have to be considering how much the kits cost though. still though i would pick bmw over chevrolet any day of the week. thats just me though, in the end its all up to you.

even though they are all nice cars thats the only reason i would never get a mustang, camaro, or corvette is because they are all so common. i wouldnt want a car that 50 other people in my town already have.

why don't more people think like you though. it makes sense. but yet there are thousands of camaros and mustangs sold over Zs

Well that sort of thing really depends on where you live. If you live in a wealthier neighborhood, you will see a lot more expensive cars and a BMW might be the car that everyone has.

thats true too, i didnt think of that haha. on the other hand i still think that u would see more mustangs, camaros, etc because they are more affordable.

Yeah I wouldn't buy a mustang or camaro for that same reason. Corvette I might consider, but I prefer other cars in that price range.

obviously u dont think like me haha u have a mustang AND a camaro. and thats prob because most people will buy what they grew up knowing as a kid, they seen their parents driving mustangs, camaros, etc and they also see them EVERYWHERE so thats the first thing they look for when they are buying a car. its kinda like advertisements...people will buy something that they see all the time or that they hear about a lot before they go out and look for something different. people just want to fit in lol. why are you hanging out in a Z forum anyway? u must have realized that you bought the wrong car and youre thining about trading haha.

Haha, I for one don't care much about rarity or anything like that. Up in NOVA you're not driving anything rare unless it's some limited run Ferrari or Lambo. :icon17:

I can definitely see the Z being pretty rare in Radford... when I used to go to visit when I still had mine I never saw another 370 save for one or two at the dealership in Christiansburg, but that's it. Mustangs were pretty popular down there. Less so up here around NOVA where the "it" cars are the 911 and 3 Series. I only see one or two '11+ 5.0s a day.

But again, I care about the driving experience. I'm not worried about being seen in something that you don't see very often. Unless you're going to spend big bucks that's kind of a lost cause up here anyways.

i feel like that is not true. maybe a v6 camaro or mustang is more affordable. but my camaro was the same price as the 370z i was looking at. same goes from the mustang.

i bet the camaro and mustang would be rarer if chevy and ford didn't make v6 models that cost much less and over populates them.

I don't put too much into it either, but I don't completely ignore it. When comparing similar cars, it might be a small factor in the decision making process.

Exactly. The V8 models only account for around 20-30% of total sales volume. However it seems like a lot of people not familiar with the two cars can't really differentiate between V8 and V6.

And yes, my 5.0 cost me about what my 370 did.

the fact is that they DO sell v6's though which means they are everywhere. besides i wasnt talking about 370's anyway i was talking about m3's over vettes and mustangs

Your right, it's definitely kind of "cool" to have an uncommon car that turns heads. Anyone that denies that is probably lying, since 99% of people like positive attention in one way or another.

It just makes me laugh when I think about how many people place that attention factor extremely high up on their list, especially when they're only driving extremely affordable cars. Whether you drive a Mustang or a Z there really are no barriers to entry. Anyone can buy one.

There are many more important things about a car to me than whether or not it's rare or turns heads, so I have a hard time sometimes understanding the thought process of some of the folks that are really seeking attention. I kind of feel like the driving experience should always come first, but that's not always the case for everyone! And that's what makes the world go 'round, I suppose!

haha me and my friend were talking about that the other day. i wish that i could go on the interstate and get passed by ferraris and lambos. thats a def rarity around here, i might seen one of those once a year. theres a couple of lambos in christiansburg and one ferrari in blacksburg. there are quite a bit of porches around though, even more than the Z.

I know the guy that owns about 75% of the exotics you'll see driving around the NRV. He's pretty loaded. :tup:

i would immagine haha. it wouldnt happen to be rj kirk would it? hes the known billionare around here haha.

well i am a little younger . i didn't grow up with the muscle cars. and my parents drove Lincolns and caddies when i was growing up. i am a car enthusiast and like a lot of different cars. i wanted a 370z before a camaro or mustang. but the camaro was new at the time and i liked it a lot and still do. it had a better engine for modding and i decided to get the camaro. now the 5.0L is a great car. i hand around a lot of different forums just to talk about cars to people :)

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