:iagree: :happydance:

I've owned four F-bodies (all purchased new); a 1973, a 1976 and a 1970 (Trans Ams) and a 2000 Z/28.

Needless to say, I love the Camaro/Firebird line but I doubt I'll ever buy another one.

The LSx engine line is incredible and quality, perhaps not quite up to par, is almost certainly not as much of an issue as in the past. The interior is another matter but if I love a car enough I can live with a less than perfect interior.

Bottom line is that everyone buying a new car has to buy the car they are most passionate about and, if they are financing it, won't get pissed off three years down the road when they are making out that check every month.

Having been a significant part of both over the years, I can tell you that the F-body and the Z communities have great people in them...many of whom I'm fortunate to call friends.

Don't let other people sway your opinions...buy what you most want...drive both cars and think about it...both the Z and the new Camaro are desirable but for their own, unique reasons.

:iagree: this damn unions are fuc*in this country up..i mean ill understand if the actually build the car to last better quality..but nooo. my friend has a 95 camry 250 k miles on it and still runs thats crazy lol not in the best conditon but you get my point...

Get a GTR and Call it a day :)

On balance, I'd recommend the 370z, because you can spell it. ;)

Have you sat in a Camero yet ?

Yuk! I swear GM ran out of money, ideas or maybe even creative people. The cockpit is absolutley horrible.

Good luck.

This is sooooo GM unfortunately, as the concept car had the interior down. The same holds for the Corvette. Corvette owners for years have been screaming at GM to do something with the interior.

That's how they lost me as a vette owner.

I think you're missing my point. The quality of American cars is on par if not better than imports. The point I am trying to make is: If you have two companies that are competing, Company "A", and company "B". Company "A" is paying a person to do a job @ $14.00 an hour, and company "B" is paying a person @ $35.00 an hour to do the EXACT same job. Company "B" is not able to compete in the market.

Hence GM's problem in the market. GM is not able to compete because of the labor unions, not because of the quality of car. They do not have the same profit margins as their competitors

This why I do not understand why we are bailing GM out. We are going to purchase est. 20,000 cars from GM (due to bailout). But because the government still sides with the unions, whose expectations are outrageous this day in age, GM will still be in a slump later down the line .Our government is our own worst enemy sometimes :confused:

It has been quite a while since I owned a domestic car, except for a F150 I owned in 2002 for only 6 months, but in my experience this was never the case. Is this the general feeling now? that domestics are on par with imports as far as quality? if so, that is surprising. I saw a dodge challenger a few days ago and the interior looked bland and cheap, and the steering wheel looked like it came from a giant ship. maybe it was a high quality ship, like a yacht.

And I saw a "recent" video of a 370z that was burning up the first day it was on a test track. So yes, I am sticking with my statement :tiphat:

Man, has Freshhxkid made his decision yet so we can end this thread!?

you have a link to the video?

the thing is, every challenger comes with that interior and steering wheel, where so far, the 370Z you are mentioning is the only one I have heard of on fire. Having owned the car for 3.5 months I am pretty happy with the quality of its build.

No, the 370z wasn't on actual fire, I was refering too the oil cooler problem. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

There is also now another problem with the 370z that someone is talking about the interior cracking due to heat. The thread is started in the "exterior/interior".

The the thing is, every car is going to have it's flaws.

Don't get me wrong. I still think the 370z is a fantastic car, espically for the price, and I am probably still going to buy the 370z because it is such a beautiful car (Overall) :tup:

It just gets me frustrated when people are saying, "Import is better than an American car" , when their only excuse is "it's an import; it will last longer; your American car is going to fall apart in a couple of years"
Do you have a crystal ball that can see into the future?

I am done ranting, Sorry :tiphat:

No crystal ball. but I'm not just asking baseless questions either. I have owned American cars in the past, including a 1982 Camaro Z28 (long time ago), and more recently a 2002 F-150. I grew up in a household that had American cars. In the past imports definitely had the higher quality, and they lasted a hell of a lot longer on average, and American cars got a bad reputation for quality. Its one of the reasons I switched to imports and did not switch back. perhaps its not true today, I don't really know, thats why I asked.