hahhah

once i found out how to disable it (disconnecting the harness) i had it off 24/7, even in the winter and rain.

I own a 05 SRT-10 Ram pushing 430rwhp... trying to keep a rwd truck with no weight in the back on the road during the winter is hard, having that much horsepower is even harder but fun...lol.

Not that the s2000 is a torque monster or high hp beast but I had two of them. 03 and 01 so I can't say anything about the newer ones but I loved that the S2K had no traction control at all. You dont see those being crashed all that much either.

It's the Indian not the arrow. I think with Zs ESP since it's affordable , less intelligent people end up crashing them thinking they are Paul walker.

IMO the vdc is better in the 370 than older Zs And gs but it's rather intrusive and not needed on a dry day IF you aren't a scared or inexperienced RWD driver.

Also. I know he's here. Importcovert has upped his rep with me since he has purchased a new z06. Which leads me to believe he may be wiser than I imagined. Hehe JK. So maybe the ws6 stories will turn to z06 stories.

I want pics tho and a video of him driving with vdc off to validate my assumption.

My experiences with the first generation S2000 were wicked lift-throttle=snap-oversteer.
Moral of the story? Don't lift! :rofl2:

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Those 00-01 S2k's were well-known for that. Kind of brings to light what our perception of what a car with snap oversteer is, since that was actually a well-balanced car, that was still geared to understeer at the limit. The various pig cars on the road have taught us that everything understeers...

Man i don't care if you think thats BS, but i drive with VDC off all the time and by now I know how my car responds in some of the situations. And if someone crash because one day that person decides to turn off his little computer helper and end up in a three thats his problem, and if that happends to me it will not by surprice and it won't be a little crash aider.

O almost forgot I'm not a professional race driver but driving in Dominicar Republic, and Iraq counts to me.......and thats is self-fulfilling thanks and drive safe and slow.:driving:

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Domincar Racing League? Iraq Performace Driving School?
Yes, I've heard of these.

Lol, Iraq performace driving. thats done in the US:icon18:

Okay, I got my car yesterday and I don't even see why they have a VDC! The car doesn't have enough low end torque to accidentally lose control. You have to be driving the hell out of it for it to get out of shape. I just hate you have to physically turn it of every time you get in the car.:rolleyes:

okok I get it.... you TURNED it off.:shakes head:

I hate that too. Turning it off everytime. Lame.

I wish I had a penny for every jacka$$ that whines about low end torque.

VDC off, not paying enough attention taking a turn into my neighborhood (going a little too fast), swerve, swerve again, and scratched bumper. I got lucky, learned my lesson. I'll leave it on until i have time to learn how to drive it w/o vdc. This is my first rwd car and first sports car.... sooooo umm.....

That being said, i need a clean and subtle front lip.....any suggestions?

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:twocents: This will get you started.:bowrofl:

I just made you a lot of money, you can thank me later.

whenever i feel like my car spin for fun i turn off the vdc but on bad weather better have it on :)

Yeah.. Here is a little vid of me taking a turn at a light and as soon as I shifted into second the rear started going out a bit on me but with how much grip these tries have it recovers pretty easily:

I wish I had a penny for every smartazz on these forums, we'd both be rich then.......

Oh, me too!
I want a penny for everyone who doesn't know the difference between their/there/they're, brake/break, your/you're, pedal/peddle, heel/heal and when to use an apostrophe s.

For example: Racer's say they put the ball of there foot on the break peddle and use the side to blip the throttle. This will help you when when your using heal and toe for downshifting.

Make me an instant millionaire.

Nice little pull, also I have the the RX65 too and love it!

I was going to "like" this but I can't find the button.....

LunaZ -- your post is awesome and correct. Read the forum to see how the education system is failing. Some say it does not matter that hardly anyone (it seems) can actually build a sentence anymore. I disagree.

VDC off, SRM off = you're in control

For daily driving, most everyone should leave VDC on. I turn it off before certain maneuvers that I know are upcoming when I want to have some fun. I also turn it off immediately when giving anyone who's never ridden in the car a quick spin. Otherwise, it's pretty much on (still in break-in period).

If you drive this car with VDC on vs VDC off and don't notice a difference, then you need to understand this car can handle a lot more than your giving it. Having the car for only a week, several times I have forgotten to take off VDC during a turn and been surprised at how significantly the power to the rear wheels is dumped, knowing how much different the turn would have been with VDC off.

VDC and SRM are tools for the average driving enthusiast (I hope most people buying a Z are) to enjoy this car in a manner they might otherwise not be able to without time, money, or both. I for one am thankful for my friends (with access to nice, fast cars) have helped me develop my driving ability to handle this car the way it was meant to be driven. With VDC off (SRM on for beginners) and a little bit of practice you can throw this car all over the road without depressing the accelerator more than half way. I am truly in awe and can't wait to get some time at the track.

I also think that sports cars (not counting the 'vette in this discussion) had a lot less power in the old days. My 240 was very hard to spin even though there was nothing at all electronic in it. Mostly I think that was due to the power-to-weight ratio of the car. Nowadays our Z's have a lot more power. This increased ability to move certainly challenges the driver without VDC. I think the fact is that the market for Z's would be a lot smaller without the computer support.

My first car was a GTO (I am old!). It was way overpowered. One time I hit the gas hard when stopped and I just sat in place burning up my rear tires. It was a very hard car to handle.

I leave VDC on. I also have the automatic (which I frequently shift with the paddles). As a computer person, I figure I should take a cue from top gun fighter pilots. They let their onboard computers do as much work as possible. They reserve their skills for things only a human can manage.

If you are an experienced race car driver, you probably can manage a Z with no problem at all even with VDC off and no ABS. My reflexes and skills are not up to reliably handling the car without some help.

There is no shame is taking advantage of technology to improve safety. I find the VDC lets me slide a little. I don't feel it is taking over often at all.

I lapped VIR at over 5 sec slower per lap with the VDC on, the end....

Another experience with VDC turned off and loosing traction. This time I actually had completely forgotten that I had turned the VDC off! DOH!

There was a car stopped in the fast lane on the freeway. I wasn't able to change lanes before catching up to it and completely stopping. When I had a chance I went into the carpool lane (and stepped on it to get up to traffic speed again) and the damn VDC kicked in during my accel. It pissed me off so I turned it off.

Around 20 minutes later I was picking up some food and heading home. I ended up turning left much sharper than usual as I had to wait for a car to go by turning left on a light that was turning red and the rear tires lost grip again:



It could just be me but it seems like recovering from this in the 370Z is a lot easier than other cars I have driven (like a 280Z). I am guessing because the fact it has a LSD?

imo, people who live in areas that are hot year round with minimal or no rain/snow like Las Vegas and Arizona don't have to worry about less than ideal climates. so you're less likely to end up wrapped around a pole.
to get over my fears of driving with vdc off, i went to a large empty field and let it rip. i realized that the car's tail will come out regardless but it's surprisingly easy to correct with one hand. although there was one time on the street the z fishtailed like crazy on me on dry pavement. totally didn't see that coming

do u record urself everywhere u go, or are u just having fun with your new Go Pro

I record myself everywhere I go.

i can see how that can benefit you as evidence when if you get harassed by cops or get into an accident

Those are the two biggest reasons I do it. I don't always record though as the camera angle is to low if there is a passenger in the car (rare) so I only record when I am by myself in the car.