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Nguyen128 02-14-2011 04:44 PM

370z vs Evo X?
 
Hey everyone, I've been browsing this forum and decided to make my first post. If some of you guys are in Georgia, you might recognize me from IA. I don't have an 370z yet but I'm considering getting one soon. This isn't a Evo vs 370z which is faster type of thread either. I'm trying to decide which one I should purchase in the near future.. let's say in around 4-5 months from now. I'm 20 years old and a sophomore in college. I am privledged enough to have my own buisness that puts me financially able to purchase either of these without taking a loan. So please no negative comments I've worked hard for what I have. My parents aren't paying my way. I support myself.

But to the meat of this post.. I would be getting a 2011 GSR fully loaded or a 2011 Nismo 370. I'd love to get my hands on a 2012 GTR Black edition and it has always been a dream of mine but after doing the math I would rather purchase a car half the price and be able to buy a new house and expand my buisness as well. I have driven both, the 370z when it came out and I just test drove a 2010 370z since they didn't have a 2011 on the lot. I drove a 2008 GSR about 6 months ago.

Both cars put a smile to my face when I drove it but there's something special about the low end power the 370 makes. This would simply be a weekend toy of mine. I'm single and don't have kids or anything to worry about so I really don't need the 4 doors. I just want a sports car I can play with. I already have a daily (2009 Pontiac G5) I bought early last year brand new.

So, what do you guys think the best car would be and pros/cons? For the 370z I'd just start with some minor bolt ons and then twin turbo it in the future. For the Evo it would be bolt ons w/ fp black and down the road the AMS 900 kit. All this after I purchase a home of course. The car will also see track time too but it will spend most of it's time on the street.

I understand this is an 370z forum and some opinions might be bias. But any input would be helpful. Sorry this is so long but thanks in advance! If you guys are on the Evo X forums I posted the same there too.

frost 02-14-2011 04:45 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...z-vs-evox.html

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 941172)

Thanks, I didn't notice this Q was already posted.

shadoquad 02-14-2011 04:49 PM

Honestly, I don't know. It's based on whatever you prefer. The Evo is only marginally more practical, since it is AWD and the tires can be rotated, and it has a back seat. But both are performance toys. IMO the 370Z looks better and is more fun to drive because it's RWD and naturally aspirated.

The low end torque is a big advantage for the Evo, as it's AWD and the Z is variable valve timing, but the Z is very fast and fun in the high rev range.

I agree with this review that I saw shortly before I purchased my Z.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqBgIJofwA

ChrisSlicks 02-14-2011 04:52 PM

Given that you don't need the practicality of the Evo, the Z wins on fun factor.

I had the same discussion with someone up here in the North East, but he wanted a DD and went with the Evo based on practicality.

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 04:57 PM

Yeah, I don't have to worry about passangers or the adverse weather here in Georgia. Except for a few exceptions with the winter storms we just had. I'm leaning towards the 370z right now. Just trying to get some opinions going. It's a fun car to drive.

SkyZ 02-14-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 941192)
Given that you don't need the practicality of the Evo, the Z wins on fun factor.

I had the same discussion with someone up here in the North East, but he wanted a DD and went with the Evo based on practicality.

seeing as he mentioned he would be going with the AMS 900 kit in the future, i wouldnt be so sure about that fun factor =]. If you have the spare cash for the AMS 900, there is nothing the 370z offers currently that can offer that kind of bang for the buck. i'd say evo.

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyZ (Post 941211)
seeing as he mentioned he would be going with the AMS 900 kit in the future, i wouldnt be so sure about that fun factor =]. If you have the spare cash for the AMS 900, there is nothing the 370z offers currently that can offer that kind of bang for the buck. i'd say evo.

Hah the AMS 900 kit would be very far down the road. Anyone have input as far as a twin turbo 370z goes?

theDreamer 02-14-2011 05:18 PM

Forced Induction - Nissan 370Z Forum

There is a sticky with finished builds plus plenty of other threads to browse through. :tup:

SPOHN 02-14-2011 05:21 PM

The Z for fun factor. Plus you can come and hang out with us. We won't let you in with a EVO. LOL

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 941247)
The Z for fun factor. Plus you can come and hang out with us. We won't let you in with a EVO. LOL

haha the evo forums beg to differ. does anyone know how many 2011 nismo 370's will be produced?

theDreamer 02-14-2011 05:24 PM

I think each year is around 500 in the US.

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 05:59 PM

After browsing around the fourm the 370z > Evo X for me personally. Who knows maybe my opinon will change by the time I buy it lol. I'll definitely be around the fourms. Time to start saving up. :tup:

sojirovskensi 02-14-2011 07:34 PM

When I purchsed my 370z 5 months ago, I had the exactly same dilemma with you.
370z, Evo, STI, and 135i were the models I was considering.
And I wanted a turbo, 6 cylinder, and RWD.

I wanted to get 135i the most, but it was $5k more than my budget and it was too small.
STI was not able to be test-driven, so I became a hater.
Evo was not look good as 370z, so my final decision was 370z.
I love RWD, and planning to go either S/C or TT when my warranty expires.

ImportConvert 02-14-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nguyen128 (Post 941167)
Hey everyone, I've been browsing this forum and decided to make my first post. If some of you guys are in Georgia, you might recognize me from IA. I don't have an 370z yet but I'm considering getting one soon. This isn't a Evo vs 370z which is faster type of thread either. I'm trying to decide which one I should purchase in the near future.. let's say in around 4-5 months from now. I'm 20 years old and a sophomore in college. I am privledged enough to have my own buisness that puts me financially able to purchase either of these without taking a loan. So please no negative comments I've worked hard for what I have. My parents aren't paying my way. I support myself.

But to the meat of this post.. I would be getting a 2011 GSR fully loaded or a 2011 Nismo 370. I'd love to get my hands on a 2012 GTR Black edition and it has always been a dream of mine but after doing the math I would rather purchase a car half the price and be able to buy a new house and expand my buisness as well. I have driven both, the 370z when it came out and I just test drove a 2010 370z since they didn't have a 2011 on the lot. I drove a 2008 GSR about 6 months ago.

Both cars put a smile to my face when I drove it but there's something special about the low end power the 370 makes. This would simply be a weekend toy of mine. I'm single and don't have kids or anything to worry about so I really don't need the 4 doors. I just want a sports car I can play with. I already have a daily (2009 Pontiac G5) I bought early last year brand new.

So, what do you guys think the best car would be and pros/cons? For the 370z I'd just start with some minor bolt ons and then twin turbo it in the future. For the Evo it would be bolt ons w/ fp black and down the road the AMS 900 kit. All this after I purchase a home of course. The car will also see track time too but it will spend most of it's time on the street.

I understand this is an 370z forum and some opinions might be bias. But any input would be helpful. Sorry this is so long but thanks in advance! If you guys are on the Evo X forums I posted the same there too.

I own neither, but have been in the new Evo's and driven the 370Z's while making a decision myself.

I would pick the Z due to higher interior quality, and because it doesn't look like crap.

I view the NISMO as a rip-off, though. It's a base model with some rims and a different feeling suspension (in tests I have seen it just rides harsher, it's even odds on handling), little louder exhaust, and a limited slip diff.

The touring/sport combo might be more your speed. Why get a stripped out interior in a car that manages to somehow weigh more than the loaded model? Makes no sense. The body-kit is very poorly done as well, go feel it. The fender-wells etc. are flopping around in there and it just isn't something that makes you think "Quality". If your doing it...because it says NISMO, then go for it, but the utility/price is just fail with that model in my opinion. No NAV. No leather. The only car I have seen with only 4 speakers since my 1993 Crown-Vic police car, the list goes on.

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Originally Posted by Nguyen128 (Post 941237)
Hah the AMS 900 kit would be very far down the road. Anyone have input as far as a twin turbo 370z goes?

I contemplated going this route, but I have yet to see a dyno graph posted, save one, that looks like someone knew what they were doing when tuning it.

themann1984 02-14-2011 09:29 PM

The Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 941468)
I own neither, but have been in the new Evo's and driven the 370Z's while making a decision myself.

I would pick the Z due to higher interior quality, and because it doesn't look like crap.

I view the NISMO as a rip-off, though. It's a base model with some rims and a different feeling suspension (in tests I have seen it just rides harsher, it's even odds on handling), little louder exhaust, and a limited slip diff.

The touring/sport combo might be more your speed. Why get a stripped out interior in a car that manages to somehow weigh more than the loaded model? Makes no sense. The body-kit is very poorly done as well, go feel it. The fender-wells etc. are flopping around in there and it just isn't something that makes you think "Quality". If your doing it...because it says NISMO, then go for it, but the utility/price is just fail with that model in my opinion. No NAV. No leather. The only car I have seen with only 4 speakers since my 1993 Crown-Vic police car, the list goes on.

Hahah I personally do like the looks of the Evo X. I thought it was the ugliest thing when it came out but it's grown on me.

I haven't had the chance to look at a Nismo at the dealership. I was at a Nissan dealership around here earlier and the sales rep said I'd have to special order it and the 2011 Nismo would cost me $50k plus some... :roflpuke2: I then left lol. I really don't need navigation and leather to come with the car initially. Only because I plan to remove the seats for aftermarket buckets and probably replace the headunit with something else w/ nav.

Cell 02-14-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nguyen128 (Post 941718)
Hahah I personally do like the looks of the Evo X. I thought it was the ugliest thing when it came out but it's grown on me.

I haven't had the chance to look at a Nismo at the dealership. I was at a Nissan dealership around here earlier and the sales rep said I'd have to special order it and the 2011 Nismo would cost me $50k plus some... :roflpuke2: I then left lol. I really don't need navigation and leather to come with the car initially. Only because I plan to remove the seats for aftermarket buckets and probably replace the headunit with something else w/ nav.

50k plus some for a nismo??? Wow that guy is insane. Should ask him if he hates money because he won't be doing business with you.

The nismo will sell for about 6-7k more than a base + sport. That is a great deal if you ask me. I love the looks of the nismo and I love the rims. That is the main reasons why I chose it over a base + sport. I was just never a fan of the fang look. Don't get me wrong, I still love the base 370z just not the front bumper.

houkouonchi 02-14-2011 11:20 PM

IMHO the Z looks quite a bit better than the EVO. The AWD is nice but my biggest reason to go to the Z (If I was not a fan of the Z's already) is because one is N/A vs a turbo. I don't plan on modding the car and am fine with stock so I didn't really wanna get a FI car that requires more maintenance and has more things that can fail/cause problems.

Nguyen128 02-14-2011 11:50 PM

Yeah, I don't think he knew what he was talking about. He couldn't really give me straight answers on anything I asked him about the car and kept trying to push a base 2010 on me. I like the looks of the Nismo all around. If I got a sport or base I'd most likely change the wheels but I love the Nismo ones so that will save me some money in the long run.


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Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 941767)
IMHO the Z looks quite a bit better than the EVO. The AWD is nice but my biggest reason to go to the Z (If I was not a fan of the Z's already) is because one is N/A vs a turbo. I don't plan on modding the car and am fine with stock so I didn't really wanna get a FI car that requires more maintenance and has more things that can fail/cause problems.

I guess I'm looking more for performance with this car. Since I'm going for a track/weekend warrior I plan on adding FI to the 370 eventually. There aren't many bolt on mods for a N/A that will make the power I want.

370Z Purist 02-15-2011 12:29 AM

I'm not making the choices of buying between different cars, and you've probably grown up around sports cars as well (seeing as you're looking at the different cars you want), so I'll put in my two cents.

I've driven a heavily modified bugeye WRX and it is too much fun. All that grip and boost is just a wonderful experience. I've also driven an outback sport, which is, for the most part, a family sport sedan/wagon/hatch -thing (sorry lol) but it's a fun car. I've also been in a 94 Impreza L with a funky-@ss EJ20E swap and a no-name turbo (at least that's what my buddy and I think) and that's also a lot of fun.

I've been in a GSR and actually been enticed to race by one (some 16 year old in his dad's car, probably) and spanked him. Bad judgment on my part but there's just something about reaching 60-70 seconds before he does. I've read about the EVO's "DSG" or whatever revolutionary tranny they have in there and apparently it's many wonderful things inside a metal box.

I've been in a Z4, fun, but many people say it's overpriced, not to mention the maintenance cost of German cars. I haven't driven it though so I have no basis for performance there.

And of course, I've been in a TON of Civics. Fortunately, none that are too riced out. My most recent experience was inside a race-shop's EK body that was modded to hell and slammed to the ground. Feels fast, although it really isn't that fast. I would never get a Civic, purely because the place I live is just filled with every example imaginable when it comes to all-show-and-no-go Civics. They're not even show. They're just ugly. An S2000? I'm too big for it.

Lastly, I am a Z driver. I will probably stay a Z driver. It is, in every sense of the word, an enthusiast's car. It has all the amenities to be a daily driver and all the kick to be a track star (albeit with cooling issues). Besides its 30+ year pedigree, Nissan has done a lot to attract the sporty-minded buyer.

TL;DR Buy the 370Z. Nismo or whatever. You will love it.

ImportConvert 02-15-2011 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nguyen128 (Post 941718)
Hahah I personally do like the looks of the Evo X. I thought it was the ugliest thing when it came out but it's grown on me.

I haven't had the chance to look at a Nismo at the dealership. I was at a Nissan dealership around here earlier and the sales rep said I'd have to special order it and the 2011 Nismo would cost me $50k plus some... :roflpuke2: I then left lol. I really don't need navigation and leather to come with the car initially. Only because I plan to remove the seats for aftermarket buckets and probably replace the headunit with something else w/ nav.

You sound like you might also change out the suspension. Why spend extra for that? Just get a base model with the sport package and save some $$? You could dump that $$ right into mods off the bat if that's your thing.

jaedub 02-15-2011 02:52 AM

rip on me if you guys wish but Evo looks like garbage IMO. 370z on the other hand, actually looks like a genuine sexy sports car. I may sound bias but I think most people will agree on this one. Also Evo will never match upto 370z in handling. When your in Evo, it feels like your in a leather seated honda civic that has a turbo, stiff coilovers, and feels like going over millions of pebbles of rock. Not a smooth ride. Did i mention interior of evo look like a half eaten burrito by a dog?

hdskull 02-15-2011 02:59 AM

The Z has better looking exterior AND interior. The Z also uses a bit less gas. I went with the Z even though the Evo is more practical/AWD, and I don't really regret the decision!

SkyZ 02-15-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 941468)
I contemplated going this route, but I have yet to see a dyno graph posted, save one, that looks like someone knew what they were doing when tuning it.

ask and you shall receive, http://amsperformance.com/amsperform...Q16-782STD.jpg

from the ams page AMS EVO X sets new World Record at 782 whp **Video Inside** | AMSPerformance.com may 7, 2010 so who knows whats changed from then but yeah,


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