Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 928453)

In the $52-$88k range, you can buy a brand new Porsche Cayman. On the higher end of that range, you can also get a slightly used '10 Nissan GTR and in the midranges, you can get a slightly used Nissan GTR from years anywhere from '08 to '09. The Cayman has better prices, but the GTR is put in an entirely different class of motorsport when it comes to comparison.

Thus far, the Nissan GTR goes undefeated in all of its comparisons, not only to more affordable cars such as the Cayman, but also to cars in the price range of new Cayman R's (67's, 82's). I myself err toward the GTR and its refined passion for sportsmanship, on the basis of its perfect balance and twin turbo monster all wheel drive. As far as value, however, the guys at Porsche will charge you for almost everything. For example, if you want automatic climate control, that is an option. Xenon headlamps, that is an option. Things that are found for free on other cars are all options on the Cayman. So the conclusion I reach is that, as far as passion goes, the Cayman is just a riceburner compared to the undeniable king of the circuit, the GTR.

Thing is, the open highways are nothing like a circuit, and how often will that highest-corner-exit-speed-in-the-world come into play on the roads? At the same time, the interior of the GTR, even including less options, seems much more suited to crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and to hearing the lamentation of their women, than the low quality, german, let's-hope-this-glue-doesn't-dissolve-before-the-end-of-the-warranty interior of the Cayman.

However, in value, getting a new car is in essence better than used if they are both the same price. So, assuming one has the option of a used GTR and a new Cayman who will be able to maintain the car no matter which it is, what is the better choice? I hope that, thus far, I have stirred some indignant rebuttals within any users of this forum, for the very reason I posted this biased thread on a 370z forum instead of an impartial forum is because I would like to see the opinions of those biased toward 370z.

Thank you for your input.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 928284)

Are you a troll? Because this has been hashed out millions of times before on this forum.

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 928296)

The reason for me posting this thread was to see if I could be convinced otherwise. If there is a choice between a Cayman and a 370z, I am trying to see why one would choose the latter. I am not trying to start problems, and if others see it that way, they should realize that they are the only ones trying to bring about conflict.

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 583882)

At approximately what height can somebody comfortably drive the Nissan 370Z, being able to fully push all of the pedals down, see over the dash, shift effectively, etc.? And without phonebooks/cushions and whatnot.

By the way, do you all clearly see the bonnet of the car and the road right in front of the car when you drive your Z?

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 928352)

HEy! I drive a garbage truck too. Why are you copying me?

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 928284)

Are you a troll? Because this has been hashed out millions of times before on this forum.

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 928583)

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 928589)

Please stop accusing me of being a troll. If I was actually trolling I wouldn't care, but I joined this forum for a reason, and that reason is not to get kicked off of it for being accused of trolling by ignorant people that are always on the offensive. The reason I post the way I do is because it generates more response due to the fact that it is more intellectually stimulating. I am going to buy a car, be it now or tomorrow or next week or next month, so what I am doing is looking for information and trying to decide what to do. At this point, I have adequately experienced both 370z's and Caymans in person. If the decision was simple, I wouldn't have posted this thread.

Originally Posted by Demon Z (Post 928604)

(1)That's your opinion. (2)I want my two minutes back.

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 928607)

1) All you did by stating that fact is waste more of your own time.
2) You must be a slow reader.

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 928607)

1) All you did by stating that fact is waste more of your own time.
2) You must be a slow reader.

Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 928638)

So you wasted more time to tell him he was wasting your time? Cool.

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 928644)

No, you are misinterpreting the situation, my friend. I am not concerned with time. It is he who is concerned with time. I can waste all the time I feel necessary whereas he places restrictions on his own time, so I am merely informing him that by taking the time to tell me I am wasting his time, he is simply wasting more of his own time, so the smarter thing to do in his scenario would be to just accept the loss and move on, instead of taking the time to make it known that his time has been wasted, because then he would be contradicting his own cause.

Aside from that, I would like to thank everyone who has made a comment thus far. Excellent responses I see all around, and much due respect to all of you for being passionate about the Z.

Originally Posted by Sheen (Post 928644)

No, you are misinterpreting the situation, my friend. I am not concerned with time. It is he who is concerned with time. I can waste all the time I feel necessary whereas he places restrictions on his own time, so I am merely informing him that by taking the time to tell me I am wasting his time, he is simply wasting more of his own time, so the smarter thing to do in his scenario would be to just accept the loss and move on, instead of taking the time to make it known that his time has been wasted, because then he would be contradicting his own cause.

Aside from that, I would like to thank everyone who has made a comment thus far. Excellent responses I see all around, and much due respect to all of you for being passionate about the Z.