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shadoquad

01-25-2011 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 912290)

It's fine. That is really what broke me of wanting a 370Z and sent me back to GM. I feel good about my decision. I jsut have to pipe up every time someone starts with that crap about how japanese cars are so good. I bought a 2002 Infiniti, and in my experience, they are just about the same as any other car, if not worse due to the inferior materials used. Nissan's paint is another such item. None of this shows up in the first 3 years or so of ownership, but after a while, cheap rubber, etc. rots, and you are left with very expensive repairs, a rattly ride, and in general, a piece of ****. SO yes, initial quality APPEARS very high as the panels in japanese cars are usually well fit, etc. It's how it holds up in 5-8 years that American cars show their superiority. Window motors are much cheaper than replacing all the motor mounts and every bushing in the suspension, etc.

Well, American cars can be really cheap to begin with, though. In fact, a Camaro I test drove had its interior literally falling apart on the test drive. :bowrofl:

But anyhow, I hear you're buying a Vette? I'm a bit jealous. I love those things. Hope it treats you well, and I hope you love it to pieces!

ImportConvert

01-25-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 912307)

Thanks, yes, ordered a Z06 2 weeks ago. I always lusted after either a Z06 or a Viper ever since highschool, and when I came to this forum I was thinking maybe a TT 370Z as the TT kits had just recently become popular, but it seems they can't even get those tuned right half the time, so I passed.

I have heard a lot of bad stuff about the Camaro interior. The Vette interior is decent, but not as nice as the 370Z in my opinion. However, for the price of the car and the performance it offers, I would expect that GM cut a cost somewhere. I would rather it be in the interior than the driveline, so I'll somehow find a way to manage, lol.

If you don't have to have the Z06, you can get a regular Coupe in the VERY low 40's. 436 horsepower is still a whallop. Not much more than a Nismo Z regarding price.

jaedub

01-26-2011 12:20 AM

Maybe you should try to have it checked by a local dealer. It can be a minor issue. Im not saying "get a Z dude!!" but Z is a great sports car. The road noise doesnt bother me at all and i can tell you its much different from G37. Have you thought about lemon law?

SkyZ	01-26-2011 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 912258)

So far the entire driveline in my Infiniti has had to be replaced, sans engine. Never had that issue in a domestic. I have also never found myself under the hood of a domestic fixing all the cracked rubber intake tubing with permatex because it has rotted out and I don't want to spend a bazillion $$ replacing it all.

Maybe I just bought 3 good domestics and 1 decent one, and 1 horrible import, maybe not.

i'm sorry to hear about ur problems with the infiniti, as well congratulations on the Z06 purchase. While i still believe that Japanese cars have better reliability than domestics it still all comes down to the luck. i have had the opposite experience of you in my family. dodge sprint, dodge neon, and while the sprint was okay, the neon was horrendous. My recently replaced subaru forester on the other hand was pretty much bulletproof in all aspects. Everything just worked and currently i have no problem with my Z, and i still see more old japanese cars than i do old american cars (old civic hatchbacks, corollas, etc.

Mt Tam I am

01-26-2011 09:36 AM

Two different cars. The Challenger is just for straight lines, while the Z is a better balance of straight and turns, albeit not as fast in the straight. If you did not like the G37 you might not like the Z either. How much did they ding you for the G37 trade in for the Challenger? This may indicate your approximate Challenger trade in loss.

Mt Tam I am

01-26-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 912248)

I wouldn't own a japense car, or japanese made car ever again due to the quality issues I have had with the one I own now, along with the fact that nothing that has come out of Japan is of interest to me at this point. The whole "japanese is more reliable" thing is a myth as far as I am concerned. Unless of course we are comparing to chrysler/jeep. I have had a lot of friends who have issues with those vehicles.

I am not a chrysler fan, either.

You can try for a lemon-law buy-back. I know a guy on the GT500 forum that had Ford buy his GT500 back because of shifting issues that they refused to fix. He took a $2000 depreciation hit due to the miles he already had put on it.

I don't know what you should buy to replace it as I don't know your budget, or what kind of vehicle you are after. As to road-noise, the 370Z does have some, but it's a 3200# sports car. You have a 4,000#+ muscle-car. They are two totally different vehicles. It is like an F150 owner saying he chose the F150 because it could go over a 12" deep stream of water whereas a corvette would get flooded doing so. Well of course.

The road-noise in the 370Z is no more than I experienced while in a 911 4S. It's there, and you can hear it, and if you focus on it it might annoy you, but if you drive the car as intended you will forget about it.

I have had the opposite experience with Jap Crap. The myth applies to my past at any rate. The worst car problem I've ever had was my 370Z needing a new short block. It was warranted and as a bonus for my troubles, Nissan gave my a 5 year maintenance contract. The other 30 years of Jap cars, a bunch of Datsuns and Nissans, were trouble free for the most part. I never spent much on my 300ZX tt, just a water pump, and broken turbo vacuum hose, in 14+ years. The little ladies 2002 Camry has never been in the shop for more than routine maintenance. Her previous Ford and GM both had recalls and weird problems I'd never heard of before.

The corvette aught to be a winner. Enjoy it thoroughly.

kenchan

01-26-2011 11:24 AM

contrary to import's pos G20 (which i also confirm that by experience owning one long time ago), my G35C's been issue free for the last 7yrs. will be my last yr with her this year though. going to sell and move onto a... :D

Red__Zed

01-26-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 912813)

All car companies make POS's. Judging a whole country of origin based on a crappy car is a poor decision. It's like deciding not to buy a vette based on a bad experience with a Cobalt.

I will take one less Z sold. Hopefully it will encourage Nissan to do something crazy for the next update.

ImportConvert

01-26-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 912856)

It's not the build-quality of the G20 but rather the materials. If Nissan has re-formulated the rubber they use for all the bushings, etc. then I agree. If not, it doesn't matter what it's in. GT-R or G20, if it's the same source, it's full of fail.

It seems they have done nothing to fix the junk paint they use, so I would worry about other things, too.

I hope Nissan does something radical, too. The Camaro and Mustang need foreign competition if they are to not stagnate again like before.

kenchan

01-26-2011 12:35 PM

actually there's a huge chance pre and post french guy for nissan. :D before french guy i wasn't much of a fan of any nissan/datsun. G20 was one of the last platforms before the transformation.

EazyD

01-26-2011 12:42 PM

Congrats on the vette. I did enjoy the ZR1 Nurburgring lap at the bottom of this page : 2011 Chevy Corvette ZR1 :tup: bit more expensive than the Z06 though haha

ol240z

01-26-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeJuice (Post 908597)

Have a bit of a dilemma on my hands, need some unbiased advice from the 370z community.

Recently bought a 2010 Challenger SRT8 at the end of December, after the first 1000 miles my car has stalled twice in the middle of traffic and the car has had a sporadic issue of not recognizing my key fob.

So far this problem is widespread on a large number of Chrysler models and many people have had it happen well over 20 times. The company has refused to acknowledge it/find a fix and the dealers have been unhelpful. Hate to make a mountain out of a mole hill but I'm afraid of the car stalling in the middle of a busy intersection and possibly getting rear ended. Very unsafe and I'm starting to think about flipping in for a 370z.

I loved the 370z when I drove it, but talked myself out of it due to the road noise and lack of a model that suited me.

Hoping for some opinions/thoughts from you guys about what to do...the Challenger forum has been pretty short sighted saying DON'T TRADE FOR THAT JAP CRAP...not exactly helpful.

consider the Infinity product. Similar starting points - but with different executions, options and rides. More of a GT than a sports car and perhaps more in line with your driving preferences. Road noise can also be softened with a smaller diameter wheel and taller side walls at the expense of handling and performance. Road racers do it all the time - a set of wheels for the drive to the track - a set for driving the track. You get two "cars" for the price of an extra set of wheels. The cat can be skinned in many ways - find solutions and disregard distractions. There is no perfect car, but when you love the car you drive - you forgive it's flaws. Kinda like a wife. Good luck.

ImportConvert

01-26-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EazyD (Post 912970)

Congrats on the vette. I did enjoy the ZR1 Nurburgring lap at the bottom of this page : 2011 Chevy Corvette ZR1 :tup: bit more expensive than the Z06 though haha

I am more attracted to the Z06. If I were stepping into an FI car with a bunch of electronics, I would probably pick the 2012 GT-R over the ZR1.

kenchan

01-26-2011 02:56 PM

import- so now that you got the vette are you going to finally leave us alone? :D ;)

steveg78

01-26-2011 04:07 PM

I dont think we've seen the last of the "My G20"... or "when I had a WS6"... comments

kenchan

01-26-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by steveg78 (Post 913344)

I dont think we've seen the last of the "My G20"... or "when I had a WS6"... comments

yah, it's like some asian guy who i dont know keep referring me as 'his friend' just because i have black hair and from the orient. get the f- away from me! :icon17:

GZ3	01-26-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by steveg78 (Post 913344)

I dont think we've seen the last of the "My G20"... or "when I had a WS6"... comments

lolzz

ImportConvert

01-26-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 913210)

import- so now that you got the vette are you going to finally leave us alone? :D ;)

Dunno, not planning on buying a 370Z, and the quality of people here makes me question why I post. Your probably right, not a group I want to interact much with as the maturity level here seems to reflect the age-group of the 370Z owner. Sadly, that's my age-group, but I never really liked my own age group. So I guess deuces.

cossie1600

01-26-2011 09:01 PM

I had a 2005 C6 with 20K miles, it had to have its rear end/transmission/wheel bearings replaced. I traded it in for a Prius as I was sick and tired of it. Even though it wasn't very reliable, but it is faster than my 370 by quite a bit. The Corvette owners are something. The racers are pretty cool, but some of them think too much of themselves. The non-racers are usually just old and grumpy, they prefer to spend their time stroking their egos and obama bashings.

Call me an ***, but I absolutely hate the guys with the older Corvettes thinking their cars were closed to the C6. Thank god the 280Z and 300Z guys don't do that.

I don't see a lot of 370 owners, but the 350 owners are definitely younger and can be a little immature sometimes. (No offense to anybody, of course I am immature myself at times)

SkyZ	01-26-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by steveg78 (Post 913344)

I dont think we've seen the last of the "My G20"... or "when I had a WS6"... comments

well maybe now it'll be "This Z06"

Red__Zed

01-26-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 913210)

import- so now that you got the vette are you going to finally leave us alone? :D ;)

http://warriorwriters.files.wordpres...0/12/troll.jpg

sonic370

01-27-2011 07:36 AM

No feeding please!
Everyone has his or her's on opinion about what they think is best...

That's what make's these boards interesting and fun. But bashing will get you
know where. I have owned both cars, vettes and Z's two of each.

why even compare the two at all. there is none. the vette is on average comparing apples to apples 18,000 to 25,000 more...

and sorry if you don't like 370.com why keep learking around........

OrangeJuice

01-28-2011 01:41 PM

Too much to reply to here guys, but thanks for all of your help.

Looks like I'll be picking up a 370Z within the next month, a couple of issues with the Challenger have come up since I first posted and my gut feeling tells me the thing is a ticking time bomb and it may be worth it to just flip it before I pick up too many miles and it isn't worth much.

This forum really has been great and given me some good insight into the car which allowed me to weigh the pros and cons of the decision. Will post pics of the old and new rides when I pick it up, currently in the middle of a move so may be delayed.

One last question...red or white? ;)

kenchan

01-28-2011 01:53 PM

white! :tup:

Red__Zed

01-28-2011 01:53 PM

Red!

shadoquad

01-28-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 916368)

white! :tup:

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 916370)

Red!

Only option:

http://www.joesbs.com/barberpole.jpg

kenchan

01-28-2011 02:03 PM

"i is not a barber! i am a stylist." said the luna :D

steveg78

01-28-2011 02:06 PM

White looks awesome when the light hits it just right and you see the metallic flakes.

mick	01-28-2011 02:08 PM

i used to be a fan of red cars and have owned 3 but nowadays, they look too flashy. so i would pick white.

ProfessorDave

01-28-2011 02:32 PM

I was looking at used when I bought mine, so I would have taken what was available in my price range. So I ended up with white. And I love it. Like steveg78 says, the sun brings out all kinds of tones in the pearl white finish. I think the color compliments the lines of the car as well.

Mt Tam I am

01-28-2011 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeJuice (Post 916354)

Police attention considered:
Red if you are brave. White if you aren't.

Red certainly looks better.

Red__Zed

01-28-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 916378)

Only option:

http://www.joesbs.com/barberpole.jpg

:bowrofl:

metz	01-28-2011 04:58 PM

I looked at all the white cars we had locally and the bumpers were freakin horrible. Make sure to check the match in the daylight if your going white.

sonic370

01-28-2011 07:34 PM

good luck with your vette..... only car i would trade my 370 on.. and one day plan to........

but as far as "jap crap". a lot a nissan's line is made right here in the good old usa.... just saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2011 Nismo#91

06-22-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeJuice (Post 916354)

I almost bought the Challenger SRT8 over the Z, happy I was lucky in my decision. I think its a really nice car but its unfortunate it is having issues.

Anyway red or white, White I think would be a more classy look if that's what you want. Red if you want to stand out and shout here I am.

People say you get pulled over more with a red sports car. But I had a red Camaro I got pulled over less then I did with my blue Hyundai Tiburon.

DJ-of-E

06-22-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1183538)

But I had a red Camaro I got pulled over less then I did with my blue Hyundai Tiburon.

You gotta thank Honda kids for that one. Blue is the new RED in street racing since circa 1997.

2011 Nismo#91

06-23-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E (Post 1184774)

You gotta thank Honda kids for that one. Blue is the new RED in street racing since circa 1997.

Son of a....

Damn kids, but the blue does look nice.

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